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One for the judge-Dread rhat is!

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
DUBLIN, Ireland (Reuters) -- It has been a pipe-dream of inventors since Leonardo da Vinci, but has the secret of free energy now been found in Ireland? A cold stone house on a wind-swept Irish hillside may seem an unlikely setting for the birthplace of such an epoch-making discovery, but it is here that an Irish inventor says he has developed a machine that will do no less than change the world. The 58-year-old electrical engineer, who lives in the Irish republic and intends -- for "security and publicity-avoidance reasons" -- to keep his identity a secret, has spent 23 years perfecting the Jasker Power System. It is an electromechanical device he says is capable of nothing less than replenishing its own energy source. The Irishman is not alone in making such assertions. The Internet is awash with speculation about free or "zero point" energy, with many claiming to have cracked the problem using magnets, coils, and even crystals. "These claims come along every 10 years or so and nothing ever comes of them. They're all cases of 'voodoo science'," said Robert Park, professor of physics at the University of Maryland. The makers of the Jasker -- a name derived from family abbreviations -- say it can be built to scale using off-the-shelf components and can power anything that requires a motor. "The Jasker produces emission-free energy at no cost apart from the installation. It is quite possibly the most significant invention since the wheel," Tom Hedrick, the only person involved with the machine willing to give his name, told Reuters. Hedrick, chief executive of a company set up with a view to licensing the device in the United States, said the technology shattered preconceived laws of science. "It's a giant leap forward. The uses of this are almost beyond imagination." Red hot with controversyNot surprisingly, this topic is red hot with controversy -- sharply dividing a world scientific community still on its guard after the "Cold Fusion" fiasco of 1989 when a group of Utah researchers scandalized the scientific world with claims -- quickly found to be unsupported -- that the long-sought answer to the problem of Cold Fusion had been discovered. Experts contacted by Reuters were wary, citing the first law of thermodynamics which, in layman's terms, states that you can't get more energy out than you put in. "I don't believe this. It goes against fundamentals which have not yet been disproved," said William Beattie, senior lecturer in electrical engineering at Queen's University in Belfast, Northern Ireland. "These people (Jasker) are either Nobel prize-winners or they don't know what they're dealing with. The energy has to come from somewhere." Undaunted, the inventor says that once powered-up, his device can run indefinitely -- or at least until the parts wear out, adding that he has supplied all his own domestic power needs free for 17 months. But he is keen to head off the notion that he has tapped into the age-old myth of perpetual motion. "Perpetual motion is impossible. This is a self-sustaining unit which at the same time provides surplus electrical energy," he said. Size of a dishwasherIn a demonstration for Reuters, a prototype -- roughly the size of a dishwasher -- was run for around 10 minutes using four 12-volt car batteries as an initial power source. Emitting a steady motorized hum, the machine powered three 100-watt light bulbs for the duration. A multimeter reading of the batteries' voltage before the device started up showed a total of 48.9 volts. When it was switched off, a second reading showed 51.2 volts, indicating that, somehow, they had been reimbursed. The machine went on to run for around two hours while photographs were taken, with no diminution in the brightness of the light bulbs, which remained lit during a short power cut. "The draw on the batteries was estimated at more than 4.5 kilowatts. With any existing technology the batteries would have been drained flat in one and a half minutes," the inventor said. Modern theories of zero point energy have their roots in quantum physics and encompass the fraught areas of "anti-gravity machines" and "advanced propulsion" research. Contributors to the debate range from serious exponents of quantum science to those who insist free energy secrets have been imparted to them by aliens. Still others seem convinced the U.S. government is conspiring to suppress such discoveries. Nick Cook, aerospace consultant to Janes Defense Weekly and author of "The Hunt for Zero Point" is not as quick as some to dismiss the possibilities. "Zero point energy has been proven to exist," he told Reuters. "The question is whether it can be tapped to provide usable energy. And to that end, I think it's possible, yes. There are a lot of eminent scientists now involved in this field and they wouldn't be if there wasn't anything to it." "In my experience opinion in this field is extremely polarized ... people either go with this area of investigation in their minds or they don't, and if they don't they tend to pooh-pooh it vehemently. It's very difficult to get an objective assessment," he said. "Basically, no one wants to be the first to stick his head above the parapet." Impervious to skepticism, Jasker's makers see the first practical application of their technology as a stand-alone generator for home use, although the automotive industry could also be a near-term target given the huge investment in developing substitutes for gasoline-fueled engines. With world oil reserves running down, there is mounting urgency in the quest for alternatives.

Comments

  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not Judge, but....There exist today and have for several years, 12 volt on demand generating motors that produce 112 volt ac-dc power, and can supply a charge, back to the battery which is operating it.The problem is the heat build up that occurs on the battery while the motor is drawing power from the battery, destroys the batteries ability to recharge itself, and therefore the battery becomes unable to sustain the power cycle for very long, therein in effect shortening the batteries life cycle. This type of equipment along with inverters are very popular among the boating enthuciasts.Fuel cells ( the storage of a power source in gelatinous materials) are, what appears to be the future of portable power storage, and may be what breaks this technology wide open.Apparently phycists around the globe have and are working on this subject with no GREAT succesess, yet.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hmmmm, I thought the second law of thermodynamics said all transfers of energy are less than perfectly efficent and some energy is lost to the system at each transfer, making "zero point" impossible. Guess I better go read that again.
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    You know far too well that the invention will "disapear" if it works. Suppliers of energy won't have anything out there that won't make them in control of the profits. They buy the rights, then destroy the all records, and continue to sell you power.
  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990
    edited November -1
    Oh, ye of little faith!My cold fusion perpetual motion machine has been powering my tinfoil hat manufacturing machine for years!How else do you think I can afford to sell them for only $19.95 (2 for $45)? Propellers slightly extra. Your choice of colors. Cash only.
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Turbo,The idea would not be to recharge a battery, but more of jumpstarting the machine, at which point it begins create electricity which is then feed back into itself while the excess is siphoned off...
  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Smonkey, I'm with ya..However, the best that can be done know is, power can only be supplied while the battery has enough juice to overcome the resistance of the system, the more output, the more heat buildup, then, everything must stop until the source of power is replentished.With regard to The Theory of Thermodynamics, it's still a theory; and depending on who interprets what portion of it, determines what is proven, solved or left hanging on the thread called, faith.For instance the foundation to the Theory of Evolution, is founded contrary to one and possibly two of the laws of Thermodynamics.[This message has been edited by turbo (edited 01-24-2002).]
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