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Brady said, "citizens underestimate how difficult it is to use a gun in self-defense.

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
And Brady said, "citizens underestimatehow difficult it is to use a gun in self-defense."by Angel ShamayaNovember 15, 2001KeepAndBearArms.com -- Wisconsin Republicans recently introduced a bill supporting a permitting system for a constitutionally protected right -- the one about bearing arms. Supporters rightly say that a move toward decriminalizing the bearing of arms will be a crime deterrent. Over two-dozen states have proven their statements to be true."Forty-four states have it. It's time to get with the times," says Waukesha County Sheriff William Kruziki.Indeed.But then the Brady Campaign Against Natural Rights comes out with an odd, perhaps even a new statement -- of course, in opposition to the bill:"Citizens underestimate how difficult it is to use a gun in self-defense."I hadn't heard this one from the gun prohibitionists before, and I truly thought I'd heard them all. When I finished laughing, I decided to pull a few stories together showing just "how difficult it is to use a gun in self-defense." Armed teenager stops home invader 14-year-old in a cast, with a broken ankle, shoots burglar http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1839 78-year-old woman prevents break-in, holds perpetrator for police 88-year-old man shoots intruder http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2561 Quadriplegic person shoots attacker Wheelchair-bound senior citizen shoots violent intruder http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2121 Wheelchair-bound female senior citizen shoots madman http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53~221672,00.html Recap of what we've learned today:Kids can use guns in self-defense.Partially disabled kids can use guns in self-defense.Disabled adults can use guns in self-defense.andCrippled elderly women can use guns in self-defense.To whom is Brady referring when they preach about "how difficult it is to use a gun in self-defense"?Are the Bradys weaker and less capable than injured little kids and elderly women in wheelchairs?The last person I introduced to handgun shooting, a female teenager, was placing her shots right where she wanted them in about five minutes -- and enjoying it.The last time I competed in our gun club shoot-off, I was beaten rather brutally by a 15-year-old girl. (The little brat. Doesn't she know about respecting her elders?!!)These Brady Mythologists are strange people.

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well the perception that the left puts out has always been how difficult it is to use a gun, and how easy it is for the criminal to use your gun against you. You see it in Hollywood all of the time. Movies where the character decides to get a gun, but he or she is oh so nervous about owning one. Then it turns out, the gun gets them in more trouble, ie, an unarmed mugger now becomes an armed mugger because he picks the piece off you and turns it on you.And I laugh(and sometimes cry) when I hear these antis wheeze about being trained and taking a course on owning a firearm. The best "course" that I took was reading instructions, going to the range, and shooting the heck out of my gun. I dont need no government "course" to show me how to do that
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    NO!! NO!! They are right. I have to agree with Brady, it is dificult to use a gun. You have to ask the criminal if you can get it out of the locked comparment, take off the trigger lock, fing the key and "Activate" the weapon, get the ammo out of a separate locked compartment load the weapon disengage AT LEAST one safety, line up the sites and pull the trigger. Man that makes it hard. Waaaaaiiit a minute isn't it BECAUSE of Brady that we have to take all these steps. HMMMMMMM.[This message has been edited by dakotashooter2 (edited 11-15-2001).][This message has been edited by dakotashooter2 (edited 11-15-2001).]
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I took my pistol safty coarse in NY, the sherrif picked me for a demonstration. I guess because I made a point of bragging about all of the hand guns I own in Wisconsin..Anyway, after clearing his glock, and showing all that it was clear, he handed it to me. Then he instructed me to point it at him, and asked me to pull the trigger. As he spoke, he proceeded to wrestle the gun from my hands. I did not pull the trigger while the gun was pointblank to his chest, because "instinct" told me that he was a police officer, and something prevented me from pointing directly at him. He had a little trouble getting it out of my hands, and while all of this was taking place rather quickly, and while I was taken off guard, I knew that had I wanted to shoot I could have. He made quite a spectical of the demonstration, and I'm sure that was the whole purpose of embarassing me as he did... but he really didn't know what was going through my head. If the senario had been reality, I know when I would have pulled the trigger. And it would have been long before his hand was on my wrist. And even at that point, the end of the barrel was pointed blank to his chest for several seconds while he tried to releave me of it. Ample time to squeese off a double tap. Tactical training would certainly be a plus for anyone planning to carry for self defence. But just take this advice, if you say stop, and the asailant continues...don't hesitate.
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sax, thanks for the input...I will remember what you have said...It makes perfect sence.as I said, this was a hypothetical demonstration he was making, and I felt no true need to defend myself, especialy against a Police Officer, In this case, un-armed. And when he instructed me to squeese the trigger, I didn't know what he was planning...remember, I learned alot from that demonstration also..
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If someone handed me a glock, and asked me to point it at him and shoot him I wouldnt do it. I dont care if I watched him empty the pistol, I dont care if I emptied the pistol, I am not going to point it at someone and shoot. Unless of course, I wanted/had to kill that person.I always thought you were never supposed to point a gun at someone, even if a cop tells you it is ok to do so.Perhaps a fake gun would have been in order in that demonstration.
  • jazzjazz Member Posts: 83 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The mentally disturbed "Brady Bunch" havetaken the title of home-grown terrorists.They know full well the truth of guns andself defense, but choose to lie and twistthe truth. The mimic the Bin Laden group.They use false propaganda to obtain theirevil goals, just like Saddam and his ilk.These anti-gun clans have no shame whenspinning the truth. They follow the terror-ist manifesto. I wouldn't be surprised ifwe do find Bin Laden's fingerprints allover the Brady Group and VPC.
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    salzo..you have hit the nail on the head...that's exactly what kept me from pointing directly at him. The only time it was actually pointed at him, was while he was trying to get it out of my hands. He caused that himself..
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    travelor- I thought that was a "safety" course you took? I guess you have to forget all that you already know about gun safety when you take the course. I guess "rule #1" isnt all that important to the state with respect to firearm safety.
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    salzo..let's not forget this was a coarse required by the bass akwards state of New York...I have a dual residency, and WAS considering obtaining a permit there.(till I discovered they voted in Hillery!!!!)If you arn't aware, you can't legaly posess a handgun in New York State, unless you hold a Carry Concealed Permit, or a home use permit, which restricts you from removing it from your home. Totally Bizaar! Every hand gun you own in the state, has to be registered, and named on your permit.
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    TRAVELOR- Believe me, I know all too well about the New York opression of gun owners.I used to be a New Yorker,I hunt in NY, and I have family who lives there.One good thing did come out of NY. When my father moved to the city a few years ago, he did not want to bother with the hassle of registering his rifle and two shotguns. So he gave them to me instead.
  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Obviously this article was written by Ms. Brady and she is refering to Mr. Brady as it is very difficult for him to use a gun in self defense.And since thats how she sees it, then we (thats all of us) ought to give up trying to defend ourselves, with a gun.....Yeah riiiight.Oh darn, now what should I do with my guns Ms Brady ?????
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