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New Low for that whore Gephardt

IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
Lots of media play in the last few days over his call to proclaim a general amnesty / give citizenship to 5 million illegal aliens who've been in the country for at least five years. What a crock!! Break the law, evade the law for five years and our dearly beloved DemoCrap brethren will make you a citizen. Of course, then you will be expected to vote for those who engineered this!

As some of you know, I'm married to a foreign national (Russian). We did everything by the book, which has been very frustrating and stressful at times. Her oldest son remained behind to finish his studies. We can't even get a tourist visa for him to come to see his mother and brother in their new home / country, because the Consulate officers are so worried that he might not wish to return. Yet, the DemoCraps want to give citizenship to illegal aliens????? My stepson, like many who would like to visit / emigrate from developed nations, is highly educated and speaks English. Instead, this worthless piece of dog crap wants to legitimize ignorant peasants who think we should learn their language to communicate with them. What a POS!!!!!

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  • airborneairborne Member Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having never been involved or affected by the INS can not take the educated stand that you can, but do know when you read articles like the one you posted that it's 100% politically driven, and just something else Gephardt can use at election time to tell all how great he is, and what he did to help the immigrants.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your point is taken. As warm and fuzzy as Gephardt probably thinks he's being, there should be no double standard. Just before 9/11, the Mexican President was up here lobbying hard for better relations and softer borders, and 9/11 ruined it for him. It may be that Washington, who has only tightened the borders since then, is looking for ways to make some peace offering to MexPres. Having lived 20 years in L.A., I know that our primary illegal alien "problem" certainly comes from South of the border. As much as I appreciate the plaque on the Statue of Liberty that beckons the world to send their "huddled masses, yearning to breathe free," I can't fault you for calling "foul" based on your experience. It does stink. Besides, we have a long tradition in this country that criminals may not profit from their crimes -- and "wetbacks," as they used to be called (because they "swum the border river at night") do not deserve a Christmas present of citizenship for flaunting the law over and over again. Gephardt is proof that not all legislators think at genius level. Also, those parents who fought to adopt Romanian babies would be outraged, I assume, by the ease with which these people would be adopted by our country, without benefit of due process. If there's going to be an amnesty, the stage should have been properly set, and application of the doctrine should be equally applied to all. Since the chances of that happening are now zero, this seems to me a case of Gephardt wanting to solve a problem by legislating it out of existence and sweeping the rest under the rug.

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    Edited by - offeror on 07/27/2002 13:35:11
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I remember correctly-I believe that George Bush was also pushing for amnesty for illegal immigrants-he shushed up only after 9-11.

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of course it's political, and at it's lowest, most cynical level. No different than the antics of the Klintoon Klan.

    Lock down the southern border, pick up the illegals & return them to Mexico (or wherever) and let them apply like everyone else in the world who wants to come here, under standards where education, profession, criminal records, etc. are (nominally anyway) factors. If there's a legitimate economic niche which those who are illegal can fill, give them work visas just like we do for doctors, engineers and others who come here. Why should they get a free pass while people who would improve the country have to go through all kinds of BS to come here on even a temporary basis legally?
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,706 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes Bush was pushing for amnesty and only shut up after 9/11. The Democrats sold out to the illegal Latinos years ago and now that the Republicans have sold out too, we are doomed.

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  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think we should police our borders and enforce the existing laws on immigration. I can appreciate the desire to live in this country but there are procedures to accomplish that and should be followed.
    Illegal aliens are just that (illegal). It doesn't matter if they are Asian, European, or Hispanic, follow the existing law.

    During the last several years, it seems after the installation of the NAFTA agreement this has become an increasing problem. Looser border controls and more in your face defiance of the law. Around here people act like it's a joke that we have the number of illegals we do.

    I pay $81.50 for six months for the local newspaper and it just started printing two pages of news in spanish on Fridays. I have a terrible time reading spanish and the only reason I can see for it is for people in this area that don't know English.

    I don't think the United States is going to be able to support this forever.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trouble is, a lot of them are getting their taste for American dollars from the American manufacturers that are down there paying non-union wages to some of them while the rest stew in poverty.

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  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just a slight correction,

    Unions are well and doing fine in Mexico, they are one of the prime reasons, maquiladoras are not as profitable as many foreign companies thought it would be in Mexico, especially the Japanese Corps.

    While wages are still way below what a union worker makes in this country for same job descrip. position, they benefits, are below substandard I'm told.

    And like everything else, the free trade laws have been a one way streak, for the Mexican businessman, US truckers for one are unable, let me rephrase it, US trukers are barred from entering into mexico and deliviering goods in Mexico entering the counrty from the US side of the border, thanks to our congressional lawmakers who refuse to addres the lopsided benefits of the "Free Trade Bill".

    Turns out it really isn't free trade at all.

    By the way, Mexico's little businees scheme it's created for itself, selling ID cards to it's own citizens willing to pay $350.00 each for picture ID issued at the local embassy, is turning a pretty little penny for the crooked politicians, and of course they are not protected in anyway, but are made simply with no protection guards, which make them easy to be forged, and duplicated with the greatest of ease, by anyone with a color xerox machine can do it..

    So, this gives illegals as well as legals here, who do a bit of free trading of their own, dealing in illegal ID's in this country an opportunity to live their distorted sense of the American dream, and just think, amnesty will square it all up for these,,,

    What a deal...

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