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EDITORIAL: The right to arm

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Most Americans believe that owning a gun is the right of every citizen. According to a Gallup poll, 73 percent of the U.S. public believe that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to gun ownership. Therefore the Heller decision, which is expected any day now, could play a pivotal role in the 2008 presidential campaign. Former Ohio Secretary of State-turned-pundit Kenneth Blackwell calls it "the Roe v. Wade" of gun rights and suggests that the case (and its results) will ripple beyond District borders to impact "90 million American gun owners."

It was six D.C. residents, fed up with escalating crime and the inability to protect themselves in they city they love, who filed suit in 2003 to challenge the constitutionality of the District's ban on handguns. The lawsuit was dismissed but reversed on appeal by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, which found that the petitioner: 1) had standing to bring the lawsuit, 2) is protected by the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms (handguns) and 3) therefore, the District "is not open to ban them."

Last year, D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty failed in his petition to rehear the appeal, paving the way for both defendant and plantiffs to petition the Supreme Court. That brings us to where we are today, in the midst of a presidential election when opinions on every matter are measured at every turn and the issue of "gun rights" is beginning to weave its way in and out of the political debate.

Generally speaking, more gun owners identify as Republicans (53 percent) than identify as Democrats (39 percent), according to Gallup. And a Harris poll, out this week, backs that up. It found that 51 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of Democrats support an individual's right to bear arms.

While the justices are expected to make their decision based on rule of law, not public opinion, the weight of whether the two presumptive presidential candidates are in sync with the public's views on the issue should not be lost among voters. But nailing either candidate down on the matter is dicey. We know Barack Obama referred to Hillary Clinton as "Annie Oakley," suggesting that she attempted to pander to gun owners during the primary campaign. But Mr. Obama didn't do himself any favors with with his "they cling to guns" remark. Mr. Obama has also opposed "right to carry" laws, voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition and has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.

John McCain has caught grief from gun advocates for his support for closing gun-show "loopholes." But he is seen by many in this same group as the "lesser of two evils." Mr. McCain also joined close to 300 other lawmakers in signing a court brief which supported lifting the D.C. gun ban, and he delivered a laudable speech to the National Rifle Association's annual conference last month, addressing what he considers Mr. Obama's glaring contradiction on gun rights: "Let's be clear if ... Obama is elected president, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will be at risk."

The Gallup poll cited also found that the majority of Americans don't actually own a firearm (only 35 percent say they do). But that doesn't mean they forfeit the right to purchase one if they so desire. We hope the majority of justices agree.

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  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    franc, the last part says it all.
    all citizens have the right to buy a gun if they so desire just because they might not own one now doesnt mean they wont want to own one next week, next month or 10 years from now!
    it is their right, and their choice to own guns if they want to and that is how it should be.
    i often wonder what the anti gunners would think if someone got in their face and tried to force them to own guns..surely they could not complain, it would be no different to them getting in peoples faces and telling them they shouldnt have guns!
    i own firearms, i bought and paid for them, but in my country they dont belong to me...my government can take them any time they want, and the only thing i can do about it is to report them as stolen...in other words, lie, and be a crimminal so i can keep my own property that i have paid for. i hope it will never get to that stage in your country, trust me, it makes you feel very down when you are told you dont have a right anymore, but a privelege. a lot of people turned into crimminals overnight here in 1996 because they did the only thing they could do and buried their guns, but as i said at the time...the politicians turned us into crimminals, it is up to them to take responsability for their actions!
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    franc, the last part says it all.
    all citizens have the right to buy a gun if they so desire just because they might not own one now doesnt mean they wont want to own one next week, next month or 10 years from now!
    it is their right, and their choice to own guns if they want to and that is how it should be.
    i often wonder what the anti gunners would think if someone got in their face and tried to force them to own guns..surely they could not complain, it would be no different to them getting in peoples faces and telling them they shouldnt have guns!
    i own firearms, i bought and paid for them, but in my country they dont belong to me...my government can take them any time they want, and the only thing i can do about it is to report them as stolen...in other words, lie, and be a crimminal so i can keep my own property that i have paid for. i hope it will never get to that stage in your country, trust me, it makes you feel very down when you are told you dont have a right anymore, but a privelege. a lot of people turned into crimminals overnight here in 1996 because they did the only thing they could do and buried their guns, but as i said at the time...the politicians turned us into crimminals, it is up to them to take responsability for their actions!


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  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Generally speaking, more gun owners identify as Republicans (53 percent) than identify as Democrats (39 percent), according to Gallup. And a Harris poll, out this week, backs that up. It found that 51 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of Democrats support an individual's right to bear arms.

    why do they always equate gun ownership with supporting the right to bear arms as if they're interchangeable?

    is it to say to the public that "to support gun rights means everyone will have a gun"? is it to accomodate the philosophy of "if I do it, (have a gun) you should too"?

    it should be made clear that some people don't own guns yet support other people's right to do so. and some people own guns but think other people shouldn't be allowed to.

    the issue should be simply, "do people have the right to own guns". without the spin.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:It found that 51 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of Democrats support an individual's right to bear arms.

    That just goes to show us how far we have strayed from adherence to and understanding of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights.

    49% of Republicans and 59% of Democrats simply are abjectly stupid or have zero grasp of Amendment II.

    Either way, this is NOT a point to celebrate.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:The Gallup poll cited also found that the majority of Americans don't actually own a firearm (only 35 percent say they do).
    I wonder how accurite that is?
  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    quote:The Gallup poll cited also found that the majority of Americans don't actually own a firearm (only 35 percent say they do).
    I wonder how accurite that is?

    I dont think I know anyone that does not own a firearm...
  • br549br549 Member Posts: 1,024
    edited November -1
    I'm neither Republican or Democrat. i vote for who i think will do the best job. I do however believe in the right to to own firearms and lots of other people's rights. i think the congress should keep their noses out of Most Americans Business and do the jobs they were elected to do.
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