Just an interesting thought.....

Mom Mom

By way of disclaimer of the follwoing, let me say that I read way too much Tom Clancy (if there is such a thing as too much of that), watch James Bond, and grew up during the height of the Cold War. Furthermore, I've spent most of my life living next to large military bases (Minot and Wright Patt, mostly been civilian, thats just a geographic fluke).Anyone, this thought came when I heard a die hard Democrat say "Poor President Bush, I felt so sorry for him when he was trying so hard not to cry". This country has been bickering internally over some of the stupidest things for a long time. An attack on American soil is the one thing that has been able to unify Americans of every walk of life and political affiliation. (The GB board hyprocrisy brawl is not petty bickering btw, its a healthy intellectual debate, so it doesn't count as not being unified.)We have flags flying across the country, Friday was Red white and Blue day even in public schools, and everybody can agree on soemthing for a change.Its been rumored for years that the US had warning of the attack on Pearl Harbor, but they needed the attack to occur in order to gain public support for entrance into WWII. Anybody think that perhaps somebody somewhere knew something and let it happen anyway? Espcially since this morning it has been reported that a source in the Cayman Islands informed the US several weeks ago that there was a terrorist cell planning a strike (see MSN News). Thoughts, opinions, or speculations?

.280 freak

Mom mom - You "kinda sorta" beat me to the punch here. I had been going to start a thread when I saw yours and thought I would just jump in here instead.I have a slightly different take on what you referred to as the hypocrisy brawl here on GB being an exercise in intellectual discourse, not just petty bickering, and thus not qualifying as not being unified.I'm not sure I can quite agree with that assessment. It wounds me deeply to see various members, whom I have had respect for even while disagreeing with them, at each other's throats with words like racist, evil, moron, hypocrite, etc., being thrown around. Seems to me that there is not much intellectualism shown in those words.This is a time of great emotional upheaval for all of us. I just hope that when this is all over, whenever that is and whatever the outcome, that some of the things "said" here will be able to be forgiven and forgotten. May God help us all, this I pray.Sincerely,.280 freak

steve45

We have been hearing over and over for many years about terrorism spreading to our country. I think our government knew terrorism was coming someday. But I doubt anyone in the government had a hint of when, where or how.

Iconoclast

I don't recall the figures, but somewhere in the past, I read that we receive dozens of bomb & other terrorsist threats every day or week. Most likely, given the sheer volume, some BS is investigated & some true threats overlooked. We *did* have advanced warning of Pearl from intelligence intercepts. I'm not sure if FDR knew & kept it quiet for ulterior reasons or not - I've seen claims both ways. But I've always leaned toward the former, JHMO: (a) Lucky coincidence the carriers were away at sea (b) " . . . a day which will live in infamy," is too polished a speech to have been created in the short time between the attack and his address to Congress. Here, I doubt like hell we had credible advance warning *in the hands of decision makers*. There is no ulterior reason engulf us in some larger conflict and, as much as I hate him, I can't believe even Slick Klinton is so cynically immoral as to stand by and let it happen.

Lowrider

I must've missed something in that Cayman Islands report. I didn't see where they HAD contacted the U.S. before the attack.

wiredog

yeah, I also heard there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll. Anybody who believes the U.S. had warning and did nothing about it because we wanted to start a war can go over there and live with the terrorists because you aren't an american. I'm sure I will catch some hell for this statement but as they say opinions are like a-holes and this is mine. Just exercising my first amendment right. Now I am going to the range with my new Russian M44, throw some lead and exercise my second amendment right.

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NEEDCOLD

Maybe a little off the subject, but the Japanese planned the attack on pearl harbor many years before 7 DEC 41. It was a question in their military academy of how to successfully attack us. Ironically, it was Admiral Yammomoto (sic) who originally answered that question in his thesis before he graduated, and he led the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. knew of the plan many years before the event.So says Lee Harvey....with the rest of the story...

Mom Mom

Ref. Cayman Islands- NBC reported Friday that on 8/29, an anonymous letter was sent to a radio station in the Caymans alledging that 3 Afghan men had entered the Islands illegally and were planning a major attack on the US via airlines. The story is on the MSN home page, click on the arrest/suspect story, its down a little ways.Latest urban rumor is that some of the hijackers were in a strip bar in Fla. the night before living it up and bragging about what they were going to do. The owner says he called the FBI and was basically blown off.I've heard about the shooter on the grassy knoll too, but I told you up front I read too much Tom Clancy and watched too much James Bond, preferably the originals with Sean Connery. Classy, handsome , and a good shot- closest thing to a perfect man ever created.And by the way, I live across the street from hanger 13, too.

SP Tiger

That's the first I've heard of that rumor. It's been stated numerous times in the last few years a major terrorist strike on the US is highly probable. I know I have watchedseveral programs on the History Channel, Discovery Channel and the like about the growing threat of terrorism. I know I thought to myself as we all sometimes do, "It'll never happen."

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Better to have and not need, than need and not have.

Mom Mom

Things get curiouser and curiouser.........London has reported that Israeli intelligence provided information to the CIA and FBI in August about a group of approximately 200 terrorists with ties to Bin Laden and Iraq planning a "major attack".......The military has turned over records on 5 people identified as potential hijackers who may have recieved training at secure US military installations in the 1990's, although a "top military official" also stated the hijackers may have stolen the ID of foreigners who studied in the US......the FBI has linked the same group to both the WTC and the bombing of the USS Cole. They started hunting for the Cole bombers two weeks after the fact, but were unable to find them...........and the plot thickens.Meanwhile, the shooter on the grassy knoll has been identified as a guest of the hanger 13 hotel. [This message has been edited by Mom Mom (edited 09-16-2001).]

Lowrider

Hey! Just a minute now. You're talking about Klinton's hero.