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Assault Weapon Ban Enhancement Act of 2002 (Introduced in the House)

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited February 2002 in General Discussion
Assault Weapon Ban Enhancement Act of 2002 (Introduced in the House)HR 3751 IH 107th CONGRESS2d SessionH. R. 3751To prohibit the importation of dangerous firearms that have been modified to avoid the ban on semiautomatic assault weapons. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESFebruary 13, 2002Mr. NADLER introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILLTo prohibit the importation of dangerous firearms that have been modified to avoid the ban on semiautomatic assault weapons. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.This Act may be cited as the `Assault Weapon Ban Enhancement Act of 2002'.SEC. 2. BAN ON IMPORTATION OF DANGEROUS FIREARMS THAT HAVE BEEN MODIFIED TO AVOID THE BAN ON SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.Section 925 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:`(g) The Secretary shall prohibit the importation or bringing into the United States of any semiautomatic assault weapon (including the frame or receiver of any such weapon) that is of a type which, as of May 1, 1998, was determined under subsection (d)(3) to be not generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, or that includes any of the following characteristics:`(1) The weapon has a thumb hole stock that functions as a pistol grip.`(2) The weapon can accept a detachable large capacity ammunition magazine.`(3) The weapon has a fixed magazine which can be readily modified to accept a large capacity ammunition magazine.`(4) The weapon uses .22 caliber ammunition.'. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3751:
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Didn't Komrad Klinton already do this same thing back in '97 with his "Executive Order" which stopped the flow of Thumbhole AK's, USR's and the like?The only difference I see is: (4) The weapon uses .22 caliber ammunition.'.What firearm is it that uses .22 caliber ammunition that is not generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes AND currently importable anyway?Sounds like more crap and more wasting of taxpayers money so the politicians appear to be "Doing Something"
    Here's a thought: Let's make criminals responsible for their crimes ... ...Not blame society and the tools they use!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
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    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I think we should stop importing "dangerous firearms" too!Although I don't see how these guidelines help to identify firearms that are "dangerous".Seems to me a firearm would be SAFER with the characteristics listed here--especially that issue with the "thumbhole pistol grip stock"; any stock configuration that helps one to get a better grip on a firearm (and pistol grips are one of them) make the firearm SAFER!The same can be argued concerning "detachable magazines"--a fixed magazine (usually needing to be loaded through the breech) is more dangerous than a firearm with a detachable magazine, yet the argument is attempted here implying that somehow "detachable magazines" are dangerous.
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  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unlike when the original "assault weapon" ban was passed, we're in a good possition to fight this one. We've got a republican in the oval office as opposed to a draft dodging coward, and slightly less than half the cogress are republicans, as well. Doesn't it take a 2/3 majority to pass anything? Assuming this isn't a scare tactic (not an accusation), I'm going to write a letter to my rep's tonight.
    New Hampshire, USA - "Live Free or Die!!!"
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    At a glance it does look like it's just the same as Klinton's executive order. But not quite. One firearm that would be affected by this in particular is the VEPR. As I understand it, the receivers are built in Russia along with some other parts. Those parts are then sent to the US, where enough US made parts are added to complete them as firearms and make them US legal.An interesting thing about the VERP in .308. In standard form it takes 10 round mags. But for an extra $100.00 you can have the "manufacturer" (the one that distributes them here in the US) machine it out so it will take M14 mags.Not that the VEPR is the only one that would be affected, there are probably more. I can't think of any right off, but surely they wouldn't do this just because of the VEPR. Well, then again, maybe they would.And of course, you know the .22 is pulled from more corpses than any other caliber. That has to be dangerous.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If this law goes into effect and we don't finally stand up and say "Enough!", then we do not deserve to own firearms.
    Stand And Be Counted
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Slightly MORE than half the Congress is Republican, not slightly LESS.
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The original assault weapon ban passed the House 218-216. No, it does not take a 2/3-rds majority to pass a bill.
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  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Apparently I was mistaken, but I'm still writing my rep's. I could have sworn that a 2/3 majority was necessary to pass legislation, though.
    New Hampshire, USA - "Live Free or Die!!!"
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    I believe the 2/3rds is to override a veto.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do any of you guys who think the fact that half+ of the house is republicans, is going to prevent that bill from getting passed? Republicans(with few exceptions) are just as bad as democrats when it comes to gun control.
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    I'm glad I live in Kansas sometimes. Sure, very flat and not much to do, but everytime I've contacted my representative ans Senators about this, they tell me there's no way they will let such things pass.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    I think I'm gonna take the SaxonPig approach here.I'm going to buy 'em before they ban 'em, and if they come for them, well, I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.I'll probably get a visit from the FBI for just saying that.
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ditto boeboe!In this new bill, when they say; "The weapon uses .22 caliber ammunition" Are they referring to .22LR ammo, or are they concidering .223 to also be .22 caliber ammunition ... it seems kinda vague, maybe on purpose to leave it open to for later inturpetation by BATF ... kind of like thumbhole stocks that functions as a pistol grip.By the way, do you know what the law is here concerning SBR's & AOW's? Any provision for them, or have they gone the way of Suppressors, select-fire and concealed carry ...
    Here's a thought: Let's make criminals responsible for their crimes ... ...Not blame society and the tools they use!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    Can anyone post any more info regarding this bill. It seems to me like its a bunch of crap that wouldnt get passed anyway, but I would like to read up a bit more on it before I get my pen
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Pike, what you see there is the entire bill. For info on any pendind legislation, go to http://www.house.gov and scroll down to the Library of Congress link (shows up on the page as THOMAS Jefferson). Input the bill # or sponsor or key word and it will find it for you.
    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Everybody - just because a politician is a Republican does not mean he supports the 2nd Amendment (just ask McCain) and just because he is a Democrat does not mean he opposes it.The NRA is NOT the National Republican Association and if we make it so (by attitudes such as seen here) we will LOSE
    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    What do you expect out of a fat pig like Nadler? Doesn't look like he strays too far from the congressional banquet table.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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