Fed. Crime 4 U 2 Assualt Govt. Employee But Not

tr fox

I think everyone knows it is a federal crime for a citizen to "assualt" a federal employee. But apparently it is NOT a federal crime for a federal employee to assualt a citizen. Is it just me or is this just a tiny bit one sided? It seems to elevate the worth of a federal employee (As a taxpayer, YOUR employee) above that of a common citizen. Right or wrong?

When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.

ElMuertoMonkey

I have a hard time seeing your point... from you putting the word "assault" in quotes (as if to emphasize the notion that any attack upon federal employees is a somehow spurious charge) to the fact that you differentiated federal employees from everyone else by referring to everyone else as "citizens" (which, by law for the most part, federal employees have to be).

The answer is simple: wrong. Federal employees are not "above" everyone else. They are not immune to criminal or civil prosecution nor can they do as they please.

As represenatives of the government (by virtue of their employment), federal employees are entitled to extra legal protection under the law. Without added legislative protection, one could beat up postal carriers all day long and conceiveably get away with a misdemeanor assault charge. Or you could kick or stab a V.A. technician without fear of additional reprisal. Those are just two examples of things I would most definitely NOT like to see come to pass. As is, I'm not really sure what you're advocating here by asking such a slanted question.

What? Make it a federal crime for a federal employee to assault anyone? Then what happens when DEA agents bust a meth lab and the dealer cries "assault?" Or when the FBI busts a human trafficking ring and the pimps accuse the agents of assault? What then?

idsman75

All men will be equal when the are viewed without regard to gender, race, creed, occupation etc.... Somehow it's wrong to take these things into consideration when you are holding them against someone but it's okay to do so when extending someone preferential treatment. Such laws make no more sense than these silly "hate crimes". Since when does the value of one person's right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness become elevated above that of another due to their occupation?

I understand what you meant tr_fox. Some may not appreciate the manner in which you articulated your points but the spirit of your message is received, understood and supported wholeheartedly.

dongizmo

tr,
I see your point also, the laws are lop-sided.
Yes, if you beat your mailman up it is a federal offense,
if you mail man beats you up, it is a local offense.
Why should a federal employee have this protection?
Don


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Lowrider

More general BS. Please include some specifics.

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borderguy

I am a Federal LEO whose most recent assault was by a 3 time Deported Criminal Alien who also hit a Customs Inspector and Border Patrolman during an attempt to enter the US illegally.

He was returned to Mexico before my shift ended because the AUSA didn't want to waste his time prosecuting the case.

Fair I guess.......Given our elevated status.

Had it been a State or City LEO this guy would have done time in jail. I have yet to see jail time for any of the persons who have assaulted me or another inspector.

Of course though...If someones complains about our use of force, it initiates an investigation and proven or not, will damage a career.

Fair again.......Given our elevated status.

ElMuertoMonkey

I find it hilarious that a lot of you folks rail against communism only when such notions as absolute equality don't fit your personal agenda.
Well, the first rule of communism is that everyone is equal with no preferential treatment for anyone regardless of profession (in theory mind you, not practice). And here you guys go, espousing a communist point of view because you're so paranoid about the mail man kicking you in the shins.
What's next? Disband the Army because they can have automatic grenade launchers and we can't? "What about MY right to bear arms? What makes the Army so special that their rights are better than us citizens?" Disband the FBI because they have wiretaps and we can't?

tr fox

idsman75; thank you for expressing it better than I did. dongizmo; thank your for your support.

I have no specific examples to offer. Merely the observation that it seems like a continuation of elavating special people above us common people. If I go into a Social Security office and get into an argument with the governemnt clerk and assualt him/her I will be charged with a more serious crime that if the clerk assualts me. I thought in the important areas all American were supposed to be equal. What is next? Will it come to be a federal crime to assualt a rich person but not a common person?

When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.