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Me & Aimsurplus VS SOG
tr fox
Member Posts: 13,856
Got a story to tell. If it reflects badly on South Ohio Guns (SOG) it is because I am just reporting the facts.
In the last few months I have finally noticed how inexpensive and fun it is to purchase WWII military surplus guns and ammo. Man, compared to buying new retail like I have all my life, this is like getting FREE GUNS!. But on two different orders from SOG, for a total of 6 guns, I have only kept one and returned the rest because they were in such poor condition (even considering their age) that to me the were nothing but junk. And the only reason I kept the one was because I thought with harsh chemicals I could get the bore clean (I finally did) and the fact that my local FFL holder, who works out of his house, doesn't make any money if I order guns on the internet, have them shipped to his house, and then I decide to send them all back. And this FFL holder is a GREAT guy. Only charges $15.00 per transfer for ANY gun purchase and I can online shop anywhere, place my order giving his FFL info and then just be sure and tell him what to look for in regards to deliveries comeing to him.
So first I had ordered 3 of the $39.00 Mosin Nagants and one $159.00 + $10.00 hand pick English Enfield .303 Jungle Carbine. The Mosins were advertised as good but were actually poor. I know you can't expect much for $39.00 but SOG told me that except for a hairline crack in the stocks, they were ready to shoot. And if a company such as SOG does offer a low, low price I still should be able to expect that they won't ship me junk. No one wants junk at any price. The Enfield was advertised as good but was fair. And there were three gun guys with me that agreed with my judgement. That was a couple of weeks ago.
Last night the two Yugo M48 Mausers arrived. I paid $81.00 dollars for the milled parts version and talked with SOG and mentioned that since I had such a bad experience with the last order could they as least ship me the "very good" version of the ones they advertised as "good to very good". The lady told me they would do that. Well if I got the "very good" versions, I would hate to see the just "good versions". Both of the ones that arrived has excessive rust inside and out. The one I sent back had such rust that the FFL holder and I could not even get it cleaned out. I finally got the one I kept cleaned to the point where it will be able to be shot and hopefully the accuracy will not suffer.
If anyone thinks I am too picky, on two different orders involving 4 guns from www.aimsurplus.com I have received guns at a great price and they were as good or better than I had expected. I kept all 4 guns.
This is just a true accounting with my experience with both companies.
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
In the last few months I have finally noticed how inexpensive and fun it is to purchase WWII military surplus guns and ammo. Man, compared to buying new retail like I have all my life, this is like getting FREE GUNS!. But on two different orders from SOG, for a total of 6 guns, I have only kept one and returned the rest because they were in such poor condition (even considering their age) that to me the were nothing but junk. And the only reason I kept the one was because I thought with harsh chemicals I could get the bore clean (I finally did) and the fact that my local FFL holder, who works out of his house, doesn't make any money if I order guns on the internet, have them shipped to his house, and then I decide to send them all back. And this FFL holder is a GREAT guy. Only charges $15.00 per transfer for ANY gun purchase and I can online shop anywhere, place my order giving his FFL info and then just be sure and tell him what to look for in regards to deliveries comeing to him.
So first I had ordered 3 of the $39.00 Mosin Nagants and one $159.00 + $10.00 hand pick English Enfield .303 Jungle Carbine. The Mosins were advertised as good but were actually poor. I know you can't expect much for $39.00 but SOG told me that except for a hairline crack in the stocks, they were ready to shoot. And if a company such as SOG does offer a low, low price I still should be able to expect that they won't ship me junk. No one wants junk at any price. The Enfield was advertised as good but was fair. And there were three gun guys with me that agreed with my judgement. That was a couple of weeks ago.
Last night the two Yugo M48 Mausers arrived. I paid $81.00 dollars for the milled parts version and talked with SOG and mentioned that since I had such a bad experience with the last order could they as least ship me the "very good" version of the ones they advertised as "good to very good". The lady told me they would do that. Well if I got the "very good" versions, I would hate to see the just "good versions". Both of the ones that arrived has excessive rust inside and out. The one I sent back had such rust that the FFL holder and I could not even get it cleaned out. I finally got the one I kept cleaned to the point where it will be able to be shot and hopefully the accuracy will not suffer.
If anyone thinks I am too picky, on two different orders involving 4 guns from www.aimsurplus.com I have received guns at a great price and they were as good or better than I had expected. I kept all 4 guns.
This is just a true accounting with my experience with both companies.
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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But how do I know you're not on the inside?
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Thanks for the heads up and for posting that. I've been looking at both aim and SOG after you pointed me in their direction. I've yet to order a firearm from aim but they have been very responsive with my questions (namly a fella by the name of Steve). My inked FFL is on the way to them. I've looked at SOG a bit and was considering them too but I think I'll stick with aim after your info. Thanks tr fox!
My intention is not to harm the business of SOG because I don't believe them to be evil, they just seem to have a an excessively high opinion of their merchandise.
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
I've been lucky so far with SOG. I've receved from them a 91/38, a MK5, a CZ52, and a pair of Victory models. The MK5 was rough but the numbers matched so I kept it.
I've been looking more and more at AIM, they do have better prices.
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byf
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Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
SEMPER FI
Mark T. Christian
I've ordered handguns from Century that were a little rough but restorable and have had no experiences with AIM yet.
I would go back to SOG again for a rifle, I've been the lucky one I guess.
Merc (who spends waaaaaay too much with his C&R, and would spend waaaaaaay too much if SOG allowed him to pay for his own guns!)
Insignia?
Nos nullus habitum rancidum insignia!
"Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Never had problem with SOG buyimg C&R guns.
Order on line and they ship it me.
Have not tried to order a C&R from AIM yet.
Steel is for guns Tupperware is for leftovers
Strange, they told me the complete opposite! Yes, I do have a C&R, but I wanted to buy one of the Izmesh Ak-47s from SOG.....they wouldn't let me pay for it. My FFL has a copy on file with them, too. He doesn't care, he'd let me do it, as it ties up less of his money. He isn't a "stocking" ffl, so it isn't like he will lose any money on it. His money is in the transfers.
Merc
Insignia?
Nos nullus habitum rancidum insignia!
"Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
JC
Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.
I live @ 40 mi. from both AIM & SOG, prefer to do business with Aim - they will let you look a rifle over before you buy, SOG hands you a box your'e not supposed to open. My last trip to SOG was for two cases of Yugo 8mm. Called 24 hrs. in advance like they ask. When I went to pick it up the young lady at the window hunted around for @ 10 minutes, came back & told me: "I've got two cases of loose 8mm you can have". She aggreed to let me take a look & I found a mix of Yugo, Turk & Greek - corroded garbage & some warehouse floor sweepings. I told her that's not what I had ordered (&paid for!) if they couldn't fill my order I needed my money back. She went back & "found" to complete cases to fill my order.
Get your panties out of a bunch, sheesh.......
Tell me the difference between these two things:
1. I pay for the AK-47, and they send it to my dealer, and I pay him the transfer fee.
2. My dealer pays for the AK-47, and they send it to him, and then I pay him the transfer fee.
And please......SOG/AIM etc are NOT just wholesale......if they were, they wouldn't let C&R License holders buy from them. Remember, a C&R is NOT FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES!!!!!!!!
Merc
tr fox,
Yes.....you cannot buy an AK-47 with a C&R, unless it is a VERY old AK....hehe. I've never seen any that old.
Insignia?
Nos nullus habitum rancidum insignia!
"Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
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As for quality of merchandise, I am quite happy, even the last one, a $40 M44 Mosin-Nagant. To be fair, they warned me of cracks in the stock, and after all, what do I want for $40? So it takes a little work with sandpaper, putty, wood glue and linseed oil. Keeps me busy while the weather outside is crappy. [:D]
AIM, for me, has always been superb. The "excellent" SKS they sent me was all but unissued, a few stock dings from storage or handling, the metal was pristine. Customer service of the highest quality.
"Go to Lakedaemon, stranger passing by;
And say there, that in obedience to her law, here we lie"
Some of use weren't so lucky.
My stock (minor crack} would't be good firewood.
The forearm so badly beat up the the bands didn't contact the wood.
Steel is for guns Tupperware is for leftovers
BTW, no AK is C&R eligible, unless you can find one that's at least 50 years old. That ain't happening, yet![:D]
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"