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China's first aircraft carrier

countryfarmercountryfarmer Member Posts: 4,552
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/25/china-unveils-first-aircraft-carrier-to-enter-service/#ixzz27TM7HUFG


Ummm..yeah, I'm shaking in my boots over that. Old Soviet carrier and they dont even have the planes to land on it yet or training to do it. Hope they have the fire supression tactics down when the first ones try. [:D]
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Turn up deck on the end. Interesting
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  • Riomouse911Riomouse911 Member Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If they land planes like they drive cars... yeesh![:p]
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  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    don't worry...the USA will GIVE them the technology and money to make it a first rate ship...we have been doing this for years
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  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is an old link...
    love the term, "E-Rumor" [:D]

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/China-New-Aircraft-Carrier.htm
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  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106 ✭
    edited November -1
    Sort of like a bull moose without a rack.[:D]
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    Here is an old link...
    love the term, "E-Rumor" [:D]

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/China-New-Aircraft-Carrier.htm


    Pontoon boats don't do good in wavy situations.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't sell them short.
    We did the tour in May from Bejing through Chunqing to Shanghai and the Yangzee River through their Great Gorges dam. The infrastructure development would blow your mind. Cities and airports were mammoth, ultra modern and artful. Having totalitarian control, when they want to accomplish something , it gets done. There's plenty of hidden corruption and hurt feelings but big projects materialize in very short times. No junky anything.
    Returning to Newark Airport hit us like an electric shock.
    You'd think it was Mogadeshu Municipal airport with its' slovenly people, filth and attitudes.
    We need to open our eyes to how our metro areas and facilities have degraded.
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  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think they could land a WW-II Corsair on it with their training [:0], I'd love to watch them try though [:D]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Don't sell them short.
    We did the tour in May from Bejing through Chunqing to Shanghai and the Yangzee River through their Great Gorges dam. The infrastructure development would blow your mind. Cities and airports were mammoth, ultra modern and artful. Having totalitarian control, when they want to accomplish something , it gets done. There's plenty of hidden corruption and hurt feelings but big projects materialize in very short times. No junky anything.
    Returning to Newark Airport hit us like an electric shock.
    You'd think it was Mogadeshu Municipal airport with its' slovenly people, filth and attitudes.
    We need to open our eyes to how our metro areas and facilities have degraded.Some of it may be going to waste because there doesn't have to be a firm commercial need before it gets built.

    That's why the mental picture of a wide-eyed Obama being blown away by Beijing's infrastructure is kinda funny. All it takes is some shiny new buildings. Some of them are probably half empty.
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  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would you really want the price of flying to go up just to have a fancier airport in Newark? Is it bottlenecking any good companies from reestablishing themselves there? I think it's a good healthy system when things cost what they're worth.
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  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Riomouse911
    If they land planes like they drive cars... yeesh![:p]


    The only aircraft carrier with a constantly blinking left turn signal on the bow.

    They'll probably do 4 knots in the 10 knot fast shipping lane.

    Do all Chinese aircraft carriers look alike?

    [:D][:o)]
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  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've seen this before in History. 1880 through 1910 in Imperial Germany only England was not supplying the money for the fleet Germany was. Today we are supplying the money via trade.
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  • stegsteg Member Posts: 871 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am willing to bet they are going to lose a hell of a lot of zoomies in learning to take off and land on their carrier before it becomes operational! Not exactly good for their zoomies morale. And then there is their fligh deck crew!
    And, what about the ships that protect and support the carrier? China is not noted for the expertise of their destroyer force; and, without it, their aircraft carrier will suffer the same fate as the Argentine Cruiser did in the Falklands business!
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just follow it with one of our attack subs until it is over the Marianas Trench. Then, arrange for it to take up permanent residence down there. Deny everything. Kinda hard to do a forensic salvage from the Trench. [:D]
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  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106 ✭
    edited November -1
    Without "zoomies" (and maybe even with) this will be not much more than a floating football field atop a small city for quite some time. And then come night operations because war isn't waged only in the daytime.

    Night operations require a quantum leap in skill levels from daytime operations which are difficult enough. It's not that China can't do it. It's more like by the time they do the carrier will be a dinosaur much like the battleship was at the beginning of WW2.

    All of which makes me wonder why we continue to pursue carrier technology. These big targets don't hide easily and we're within easy grasp of technology which will make these large juicy targets obsolete.
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  • lew07lew07 Member Posts: 1,053 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My guess is its a show of strength towards Japan.As the old song goes "There maybe trouble ahead.......
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    All purchased with money from the USA. [xx(]


    Not exactly. The Chinese have lent us hundreds of billions of dollars.

    We are the debtors; they are the creditors. We've taken their money (i.e. their "productive effort") by borrowing from them.

    (And, unfortunately, it looks like we are not going to be paying them back.)
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