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A New Branch Of Service

4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
What do you think of a new branch of service, kinda like the marines was an offshoot of the navy and the air force an offshoot of the army. We could have an offshoot from the national guard and call it the division for airport security. I think we would get more diciplined people doing the checks that way and we wouldn't have to worry about some poor slob not doing his job because it doesn't pay all that good.

When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote: What do you think of a new branch of service, kinda like the marines was an offshoot of the navy and the air force an offshoot of the army

    WRONG

    If you look at it from the stand point of mission, then the Navy is an offshoot of the Marines. The role of the navy is to project power ashore - that means Marines and it means that the navy's primary task is to function as a delivery service (sea going bus drivers) taking Marines where they are needed. Without Marines, the navy wouldn't have a job.

    BTW, Marines is always spelled with a capitol M when it refers to the United States Marine Corps

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Navy and the Air Force are such great taxi services aren't they?

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boys, boys, let's not let your justifiable pride in your particular branch blind you to the mission and value of some of the other folks in uniform. Don't see too many Marines under the ice keeping track of Russian boomers . . . . Didn't see the Iraqi / Taliban planes doing too much damage to our ground forces . . . . Etc., etc., etc. If there's one lesson to be learned from successful military operations throughout history, and most especially in the last century, it is that combined operations blending the strengths of many specialties are far more successful and stronger than the sum of the parts! Ground operations without air cover are targets. Air power without ground forces have no bases. The Navy covers land, sea & air in various roles, etc.

    4G&C, I don't like the idea. Except in emergencies, the protection of civilian locations is a police-type function. Don't much care for the idea of putting the military in that role. Don't think we've reached the point where our airports are war zones. Maybe a another Federal police agency - although we have more than enough already IMHO.





    Edited by - Iconoclast on 05/21/2002 00:47:43
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Icon: don't forget that the Marines bring their own air cover.

    As far as quote:Don't see too many Marines under the ice keeping track of Russian boomers You can't see much under the ice anyway - sorta reminds me of high school, when we would take the girls down to the river to 'watch' the submarine races.

    BTW, doesn't SUBMARINE mean less than a Marine, as in an airfarce being SUB standard?

    (edited after Lowrider reminded me of why I don't play golf)

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis

    Edited by - shootist3006 on 05/21/2002 02:12:32
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    A "sub-par" round in golf is very good golf. It means you shot a BELOW PAR round. As in, one under par, two under par, etc.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680 ✭
    edited November -1
    I'm stayin' outta this one!!!
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I ain't goin thar aither.

    PC=BS
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well now shootist....you and I seldom disagree...but I take great umbridge with your categorization of the Navy being a taxi service.

    Let's see...without the Navy you would just be a SOLDIER. Not that there is anything wrong with being a soldier just that the Navy permits you to think of yourself differently!!!!!

    And as a Navy Beachmaster I have never hesitated to bring Marines into the beach when I thought it was safe enough for them and that they wouldn't be too frightened. Just remember..."Where the Beachmasters go...the Marines follow!"

    Seriously a Lance Corporal of Marines with his M-16 or an Army PFC with his weapon are the definition of power projection....but they have to get through a lot of fighting by sailors to get them there. If their ship gets sunk all those marines and soldiers are just a Widow's memory. And if you remember the Battle off Samar a few Navy destroyers and escort carriers literally saved the lives of every infantry man who landed in the Phillipines in WWII(about 600,000 troops).

    Now I know you said it in jest shootist but standby for heavy rolls when you start badmouthing the Navy!! Taxi service indeed!!! Who has the Highest percentage of MOH's to numbers in the Naval Service? You got it Navy Corpsmen! And I never saw a Marine officer turn down my machine gunners when I offered their services to them. Beach
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No way. We have enough services as of now. In fact to many "so called elite outfits" using up Defence money in specialized training
    and then leaving the service. And dont knock the Air Corps. In ww 2
    the Air Force lost more men in battle than the Marine Corps. And no,
    I was not Air Corps, but Infantry.
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Beach, it says right here in the Platoon Leaders manual (Lesson 6) "Never, never, never turn down a free machine gun, even if it is manned by a squid!"

    And like all Marines, I have always believed that Navy corpsmen were really Marines who dressed funny

    Actually, I think that those who fight where you can't dig a foxhole without an aqualung are out of their minds. On the beach, when the cr&p hits the fan, you can always dig in (and call for Marine Air) but at sea, you better be able to tread water - not for me.

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis

    Edited by - shootist3006 on 05/21/2002 17:41:13
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  • 11echo11echo Member Posts: 1,007 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    HEY THATS A GREAT IDEA!!! We could call them the "WOODED INDIAN BRANCH"! BECAUSE... that's about as helpful as they'd be! The NG.s are only good at two things ...filling sand bags and putting them where you want them (and only with supervision)! AND with that experience, why would ANYBODY think they could be of ANY help at the airports!?? GAWD... you'd think we have NG.s as leaders! ...Ahhh, OH SH*T! ...WE DO!!!!!!!*LOL* GOD SAVE US ALL!!!

    "FEAR the Goverment, that fears your ARMS"
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