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Careful with your Glock

elmos608elmos608 Member Posts: 124 ✭✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
Take a look at this Kaboom. http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?topic=5241&forum=14&29
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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like EVIL ATF found out how a glock fires underwater!Thanks for the update.I'll make mine an H&K.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like Glock needs to look at their Quality Control department again. This happened before when they first came out. I thought they had that fixed. Now I remember why I won't own one.
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  • ladrladr Member Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And whats your point??I have had several guns ka-boom on me.Remind me to tell you about the M-60 one time.....
    NO GUTS, NO GLORY
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For some reason or another, Glock pistols chambered in .40SW & .45ACP have been blowing since they were introduced. Never heard a good explanation for this, but I agree that it's scarey. Their 9mm's don't seem to have this problem, just the larger framed pistols.Ref the photos: I'm betting a metal failure in the chamber area of the barrel. No slide seperation, relatively little visible frame damage and lack of damage to the barrel make it look as if the chamber area gave way first, venting the high pressure spike to the sides and upwards instead of to the rear.
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    H&K USP Rules!And this is why!
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ouch! My hands!No, not my Glock in the pic. I like Glock's, but I'm not a flag-waver for them. I carried a Glock 23 for two years and never had a single failure with it. 99.95% of all the exploding Glock photos turn out to be operator error. Stuff like using hot, hot reloads, barrel obstructions and the like. Follow the instructions on the owners manual for your Glock and it will not blow up on you. People just ignore the warning in the manual not to use reloads in their Glocks, but figure "It won't happen to me! I'm a reloading PRO!". Same thing with the cancer warnings on my Marlboros. I smoke 'em anyways, 'cause I'LL never get cancer!
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  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000 ✭
    edited November -1
    One more for the Glock fans.
    Save, research, then buy the best.Join the NRA, NOW!Teach them young, teach them safe, teach them forever, but most of all, teach them to VOTE!
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glock used the same barrel outside dimensions for the 9mm the 40cal and the 357 Sig, resulting in much thinner chamber walls on the 40 and the 357. The chamber walls are thinnest on the sides and where did the chamber split? Right, through both sides.Federal is defending by claiming the cases burst at the unsupported feed ramp and bad steel while Glock is defending by claiming overpressure loads.I think Glock is on the hook for insufficient metal around those chambers.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Explain how it resulted in thinner metal for the .357. Aren't 9mm and .357,for all practical purposes, the same diameter? Both .35 inches?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • marvhuckermarvhucker Member Posts: 16 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow, quite a pic! Agree with another poster who stated that the pic reminded him of why he doesn't own a Glock. Kinda like driving a Volvo or Saaaaab. Marv (Sgt USMC 66-70 Quit)
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  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    but tupperware is warranteed, isnt it?
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  • SmokewagonSmokewagon Member Posts: 40 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I dont know what these people are doing to their guns or what they are feeding them, but in 10 years with our Dept. Ive never seen this happen. Usually if it does its with a reload. Theres a post on the NAHC website on this and bulged cases. Ive never seen a bulge case come out of any of our Glocks either, and Ive seen many thousands of rounds fired. The only gun ive ever seen do this was an HK USP 45 with reloads, and an M1 Garand with reloads.
    Stf.Sgt.J.Kysela/Oklahoma City Police Dept. F/A Instructor.
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  • ED PED P Member Posts: 190 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Smokewagon, Could you possibly cut and paste the bit on bulging cases, if it's not too large? I went to the NAHC website but it looks like you have to join a club to access the forum.My concern is, I've owned a .40 S&W 4013 for some time, and even sent it back to the factory with samples of bulging cases, but they claim it's safe, the chamber is just bigger to help with feeding reliability. Reloading is totally out of the question with all my .40 brass out of this gun. Just wondering what others are experiencing with bulging cases.
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  • ebeshirsebeshirs Member Posts: 382 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lowrider,The bullet dimensions are close but the brass is .40 cal.So the barrel walls are the same diameter, but the chamber walls are thinner. [than the 9mm][This message has been edited by ebeshirs (edited 01-05-2002).]
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Thanks Bro.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • SmokewagonSmokewagon Member Posts: 40 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heres a site talking about this problem and the bulged cases. http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/glock/gz-glock-kb.html, They say its from an unsupported chamber, but Ive never seen it happen in any of our Glocks after thousands of rounds fired through all calibers. We have been carrying them for more than 10 years.
    Stf.Sgt.J.Kysela/Oklahoma City Police Dept. F/A Instructor.
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  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    Don't care! Still going to buy one today.
    Eat healthy, exercise, avoid smoking........Die anyway. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I have two 9mm Glocks. A model 17 and a 26. I'll be keepin' them for a long time.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can a quality after-market barrel remedy this problem or prevent it? If so, which is the best after-market barrel for a Glock 23?
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  • liteworklitework Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me because I am not really an expert on pressure. I do some hydrostatic pressure testing but not the same ball park. If there isn't a wall around a bullet cartridge, will it explode outward like in the picture? I know bullets expand after firing but would they expand to the point where the metal is torn/ripped? Especially handgun cartridges with no neckdown. This is the only picture I have ever seen of a kaboom; do you normally see damage to the shell and the barrel?
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  • oneshyoneshy Member Posts: 417 ✭
    edited November -1
    Jarvis or Bar-Sto make the supported chamber barrels for $185 & $190. Advanced Tactical firearms, Wilson and Briley also have them. I reload this caliber for a Glock 23 and I produced a self induced kaboom before I realized the problems with this caliber. At first I thought I had a double charge but now I realize that I reused the brass too often. In my case the result was a bulged barrel, nothing like this. I have seen pictures of some other kabooms but this is the worst. I believe that this case was probably due to an over charged round. If you reload this caliber watch for a line that develops around the bottom of the brass.
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