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Setting the record straight: Japan bombed Alaska, too

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Setting the record straight: Japan bombed Alaska, tooA small Alaskan community hopes a new World War II memorial will finally tell the overlooked story of the last foreign battle on US soil.By Yereth Rosen It's almost an American legend: Until Sept. 11, the last attack on US soil was Pearl Harbor. Even President Bush cited that as fact in his Sept. 20 speech to Congress. The trouble is, it isn't true. Six months after Japan struck Hawaii, it bombed the small port of Dutch Harbor, 800 miles southeast of Anchorage in Alaska's Aleutian Islands, killing 43 Americans. Japanese ground troops also occupied two nearby islands. E-mail this story Write a letter to the Editor Printer-friendly version monitortalk: Join one of the many discussions going on right now in our forums. Local residents and soldiers stationed near this remote outpost remain proud of how they defended their country after the bombs fell on June 3 and 4, 1942 - and are tired of having their contribution overlooked. Now, though, their hopes of revising popular history may be lifting a bit, with the debut of a new center to commemorate Alaska's World War II battles.The visitor center, which will be housed in a restored military building in Unalaska (the city that encompasses Dutch Harbor), will open this winter. A grand-opening next June will mark the attack's 60th anniversary.Though officials and residents are gratified to have the center - and hope the rising number of cruise liners stopping here will expose more people to the area's war story - they know ignorance of the Aleutian events is widespread. "Very few people in the United States can accurately describe the location of Alaska. Even fewer can describe where the Aleutians are. Even fewer have actually been there. So it's a place of mystery, even if they think about it," says Lee Zoll of Vacaville, Calif., who was a 17-year-old Navy radioman in Dutch Harbor when the Japanese bombs fell there.In addition to displays commemorating the battle, the center will hold exhibits about the indigenous Aleuts of the treeless volcanic islands and the war's effects on them. About 900 Aleuts were evacuated from the islands to rundown camps in southeastern Alaska, where they had experiences similar to those of interned Japanese-Americans. When they returned home, the Aleuts found their villages in ruins. The village of Attu, for example, was never rebuilt.Elsewhere in the islands, the war's remnants have fallen prey to the region's stormy weather, and much was hauled away in cleanup campaigns. But in Unalaska, the bunkers, gun mounts, and observation posts remain "a very intact cultural landscape that is still very much a part of the community," says Linda Cook, the National Park Service's special assistant for Aleutian programs. The Park Service will operate the center along with Ounalashka Corp., a local Aleut organization that owns the property.Despite its remoteness, Unalaska gets plenty of visitors. The city, 800 miles southwest of Anchorage, is the nation's busiest commercial seafood port. Thousands of seasonal workers pass through each year, in addition to a small but growing number of tourists.Even if large numbers of people never walk into the visitor center, its existence will help set the record straight, especially in the computer age, Ms. Cook says. "You know where to go and where to get the information, anything you want to know about the events there," she says. Much of that information comes from veterans like Mr. Zoll.After getting blank stares for years when he mentioned his service, Zoll is completing a book about the events there. He says he wants to record the deeds of overlooked low-level soldiers, such as cooks and his fellow radiomen, who coped with wind, fog, and fear."There are no little heroes, no big heroes, just a bunch of little guys doing their jobs," he says.

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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Does anyone remember the japanese balloon bombs that landed in the U.S.?There were stories of these devices thru the 50's,60's and 70's telling of people who found them with some even exploding after all those years.
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I seem to remember a group of hikers that were killed by one in Washington State....the government kept it quite at the time for fear of panic, 1943?? maybe...
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    This site gives the details/stats on the balloon bombs that were used against north America. http://avstop.com/news/jb.html [This message has been edited by alledan (edited 11-07-2001).]
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,597 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Makes me want to run out and buy a Honda.
    cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Alaska was not a state at that time.The Japanese did attack some coastal U.S.targets with gunfire from submarines &they had some overflights with float planeslaunched from submarines that may havedropped some bombs.
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    I heard that the germans were using mini subs around the east coast but have very little info on it.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    A Japanese submarine fired on a California oil refinery. I watched a documentary on this incident several years ago.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • Miss. CreantMiss. Creant Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It just goes to show, it's always something. This is exactly the reason we cannot believe these spam posts.
  • Norman DogNorman Dog Member Posts: 470 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hawaii was also admitted as a state in 1959, although it was months after Alaska. I'm not sure what the legal status was of these territories in the '40's, but if Hawaii was considered American soil at that time, then I think Alaska would have been, also.A good book to read is "The War in the Pacific, 1941-1945" by John Costello.
  • opentopopentop Member Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I always thought the last attack on U.S. soil, before Sept. 11, was the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, but maybe it's just me that remembers the part in government oaths of office that says "...that I shall support and defend The Constitution of The United States Of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK,who left the door open and let the troll in?
  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990
    edited November -1
    As a diversionary attack to their Midway operation, Japanese naval forces attacked and occupied Attu and Kiska Islands in the Aleutians.One interesting sidelight.....a Jap A6M Zero out on patrol, ran out of gas and made a forced landing. A short time later, a scouting party from the Alaskan Territorial guard found it....undamaged except for a bent prop and a little undercarriage damage.It was disassembled, crated and shipped out to Wright Patterson AAFB for evaluation, then flown out to Grumann Aircraft in Bethpage, Long Island for evaluation against the prototype F6F Hellcat. As a result of what was learned, some changes were made to the Hellcat.....which later became the premier "Zero Killer" in the Pacific.
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Japan also made one or two raids using planes launched from subs against targets in the Pacific Northwest. No casualties though. There was also a second raid on Pearl Harbor about 6 months later by a few long range flying boats, but the bombs fell harmlessly in the water or countryside.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Planes launched from submarines?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Yep. They were seaplanes. The planes were broken down and stored in prefab sections in a giant watertight cylinder bolted on top of the sub; they were then assembled- took an hour or so- and launched. The Germans played around with a similar idea as well. Never terribly successful, but it was tried.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I'll be damned! I thought I knew everything but I'd never heard that before.Thanks for the info.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jonk, I believe you may be incorrect. My recollection is that the Japs did have such a design and the plan was to use the planes, armed w/ torpedoes, to attack the Panama Canal, but the subs were never used. I can't remember if they were even built. On another note, the History Channel did a special on the biowar facility the Japs operated in Manchuria. It was hushed up after the war, but they conducted experiments on (as in murdered) a few US POWs and thousands of Chinese in testing these agents. The documents retrieved indicated that the little bomblets discussed above which were sent aloft to drift over the US mainland would have been armed w/ bio weapons if the test runs had been more successful. What they did not discuss was that the US also had a biowar capability which was developed, but not used (primarily out of fear of retribution in kind), for deployment against the Japanese. The US & Japan were the two major powers who did *not* sign the protocol against the use of such weapons between the World Wars. Further, OSS developed germs sealed in gelatin which could be hidden behind the ear for use by females 'entertaining' Jap officers in China. Before risking their assets, the case officers tested the germs on some animal (mules?) and when nothing happened, they trashed the stuff . . . but the animal they used was the only species with a natural immunity to the bio agent. OSS also developed a biological weapon that would kill only horses for use against the Germans - a very high % of regular Wehrmacht transport was horsedrawn - again, it was not deployed for fear of retaliation. A lot of things don't make it into the widely-distributed official versions. Not exactly hidden, just not publicized.
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe I read of one of the balloon bombs being found in the early 90's . I think it was in Idaho somewhere. Makes you wonder how many may still be out there.[This message has been edited by woodsrunner (edited 11-12-2001).]
  • jager22jager22 Member Posts: 197 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    alaska was there before it was a state....so what is your point tsat?
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