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Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
OK! I got your atention! now read this ......


Dictatorship At Your Door - How
'Anti-Terror' Laws Threaten You
By James R. Elwood and Jarret B. Wollstein
International Society For Individual Liberty
7-21-2

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and a choking life." Osama bin Laden, October, 2001 (quoted in NewsMax.com 2/1/02)

At 5 am in the morning on September 12, 2001 -- less than one day after the 9/11 Attack -- a half-dozen heavily-armed federal agents raided the home of Dr. Al-Hazmi in San Antonio, Texas. Without any search warrant, the agents ransacked his home, while his wife and young children (6 & 8) were held at gunpoint. Then -- without being charged with any crime -- Dr. Al-Hazmi was shackled and thrown naked into a freezing cold FBI holding cell. Even his eyeglasses and bronchitis medicine were taken away. Next, Al-Hazmi was flown to a New York prison, where he says he was repeatedly beaten while the FBI interrogated him.

One week later, he was finally allowed to talk to an attorney and learned the reason for his arrest: Dr. Al-Hazmi's name (the "Smith" of the Middle East) is similar to that of two 9/11 hijackers, and he had booked flights through Travelocity.com, which some 9/11 hijackers (along with a few million other people) had used.

On September 24th -- 12 days after he was arrested,Dr. Al-Hazmi was released -- without his belongings and without even an apology from the FBI. He says he may now have to quit his job and leave the U.S. because his co-workers no longer trust him. (Source: "Justice Kept In the Dark," Newsweek,12-10-01, p. 41.)

Since September 11th, over 2,000 people, including many U.S. citizens, have been imprisoned by the FBI and police in the name of "fighting terrorism." Only two of them have been charged with a crime associated with 9/11. Many say they have been denied food and sleep, access to an attorney, and have even been beaten. The FBI has even called for legalizing torture of such "suspects."

In the wake of the horrific 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, America is a changed country. Dozens of "anti-terrorist" laws have already been enacted by Congress and state legislatures, and many more are on the way. As you are about to learn, these laws are a much greater danger to you than to terrorists.

The USA Patriot Act authorizes an American police state

The centerpiece of the new "anti-terror" laws is the USA PATRIOT ACT (Public Law 107-56). Here is how this law affects you.

Cops can now rob your house or office at will: Under Section 213, police can now secretly break into your home or business if they merely suspect you're involved in any criminal activity involving a computer.

Once they break in, they can seize your records, alter or destroy your computer files, and even plant bugs that report every keystroke you type. They can also secretly seize anything and everything you own, including family heirlooms, your computer, cash, jewelry, and gold. Since the "search" is secret, it will be impossible to legally challenge it -- much less get your property back.

In effect, the USA Patriot Act legalizes home break-ins and robberies by cops nationwide -- not unlike the corrupt LA police Rampart Division which routinely robbed and assaulted citizens they were sworn "to serve and protect."

Big Brother is Watching: Under Section 207(III) the Feds can now eavesdrop on your phone calls, faxes, and e-mail at will -- without any search warrant. Internet Service Providers must turn over your e-mail records and customer information upon government demand. Telephone companies also must turn over detailed phone records, including any credit-card or bank-account numbers used for payments.

According to CBSNews.com (11/21/01), the FBI is developing new "Magic Lantern" software that can record every keystroke you make on your computer. It could be inserted into your PC via the Internet, and may even be capable of real-time monitoring! [Shades of 1984]

Your financial privacy is being wiped out. Section 358 compels U.S. and foreign banks -- along with stockbrokers, credit-card companies, and credit-reporting agencies -- to provide detailed information about you to intelligence agencies on demand. You won't even be notified that this information has been requested.

Section 361 greatly expands the power of the IRS Financial Crimes Center (FINCEN) to collect financial information on you from "non-bank networks" (like check-cashing services and barter-systems). This infor-mation will be entered into a new federal database accessible to thousands of cops and bureaucrats, who can use the information to criminally prosecute you or seize your assets. The IRS has already forced MasterCard and American Express to turn over all records of millions of U.S. citizens who have foreign credit cards.

If you are a foreigner who owns U.S. assets, they can be seized upon the mere request of a U.S. prosecutor.

Finally, carrying $10,000 cash in or out of the US (without reporting it) is by itself now considered a federal crime. Your cash will be immediately confiscated.

Anything and everything you own can be seized without trial. Section 302 allows "forfeiture of any assets in connection with the anti-terrorist efforts of the United States." If you contribute even $1 to an organization that the President brands "terrorist," everything you own can be confiscated.

Since September 11th, over $400 million in assets has been seized, including all of the assets of the Global Relief Foundation in Bridgeview, Illinois, which raises some $5 million a year for poor Muslims. According to CBS News, FBI agents removed "furniture and fixtures as well as records." Justice Department officials say they will also go after large contributors to Global and 39 other Muslim charities.

We are all possible "domestic terrorists"

Section 802 of the USA Patriot Act says "domestic terrorism" includes any illegal acts which are "dangerous to human life" or which are "intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population [or] to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion."

This wording is so vague, that police could brand you a 'supporter of terrorism' simply for protesting an unjust law, taking part in a political demonstration where a fist-fight breaks out, or even writing an article that criticizes the War on Terror! Already, similar laws have been used to arrest protesters at anti-abortion demonstration, seize the assets of some defense attorneys, and even arrest 6-year-old children for making "terrorist threats."

Section 813 further states that such "terrorist acts" fall under RICO (the Racketeer-Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act), which allows police to confiscate everything you own based upon mere "suspicion."

The USA Patriot Act is just the beginning

In the wake of 9/11, scores of new anti-terrorist laws and policies have already been enacted including:

Robbing and assaulting airline passengers. Airports (and many other public places) are now "rights-free zones." Under the eye of armed soldiers, thousands of airline passengers have had legal items like toenail clippers, jewelry, and belts confiscated as potential "weapons." Many are also being molested.

Columnist Rebecca Hagelin reports that a female airport security guard "ran her hands across my breast and up my thighs." Then her 9-year-old daughter was subjected to the same treatment.

WorldNetDaily.com publisher Joseph Farah says his 15-year-old daughter was "told to unbutton her pants and roll them down below the beltline." In Atlanta, 72 women have filed suit for sexual molestation by male airport security screeners.

National ID cards and internal passports.The "Drivers License Modernization Act of 2002" (HR 4633) mandates that all state drivers licenses be standardized "smart cards" that would include your Social Security number, digitized photo, and "biometric" identifiers such as your fingerprints or retinal scan. This won't stop criminals or terrorists, who routinely steal or forge IDs.

However, your license will be linked to a national database now being created which will enable the government to control your every movement and track every dollar you spend.


Some officials are even calling for these ID cards to be mandatory for boarding a bus, train, or cruise ship -- or even to rent a car! That would transform your driver's license into an internal passport. Just like in the former Soviet Union, government bureaucrats could prevent you from traveling!

"Star chamber" military tribunals. These tribunals strip away your most basic legal protections. Before these tribunals, you have no presumption of innocence, hearsay evidence can be used to convict you, and there is no independent jury. Instead you are judged by military officers who work for the same boss as the prosecutors trying to convict you. Military tribunals can even order that you be summarily executed -- without appeal.

So far, these military tribunals are supposed to try only foreign "terrorist" suspects. But a Presidential Executive Order could make you subject to them in a heartbeat -- just as Lincoln ordered during the Civil War.

Dictatorship is at our doorstep

Universal surveillance, arbitrary property seizures, imprisonment without trial, "kangaroo-court" tribunals, and summary execution of "suspects" were the hallmarks of the brutal dictatorships in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia -- and continue today in repressive countries like Saddam Hussein's Iraq. These abuses have no place in a free and civilized society.

But now in America, the USA Patriot Act and the other new anti-terror laws and edicts virtually wipe out our Bill of Rights and give government officials absolute power over your life and property. As Lord Acton warned: "Power corrupts -- and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

We can still stop dictatorship

Certainly in the wake of 9/11 and the continuing terrorist threat, government should hunt down and get rid of real terrorists. But vicious attacks on our freedom and privacy will not make our country one whit safer.

There is still time to fight back, as many people -- including some members of Congress -- are starting to do. Join us in insisting as a free and just people, that the "rule of law" enshrined in the Bill of Rights -- which protects the innocent -- must be strictly upheld, and that the new "anti-terrorist" laws be repealed.

Allowing government to destroy our liberty in the name of fighting terrorism will destroy everything that has made America a great, prosperous and decent society -- and give Osama bin Laden and his wretched ilk their final victory.


James R. Elwood is the executive vice-president of ISIL. Jarret B. Wollstein is a director of ISIL, a prolific writer, and the author of 25 books including "Surviving Terrorism, Protecting yourself, your business and your community from terrorism and martial law." First published May, 2002.

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/dictatorship-at-doorstep.html


Sorry for the misleading title but if the stock market does it why not me !
JD


Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....

Comments

  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd have preferred the sex, orgy and hot pictures.... Whoever wrote this is taking a lot of positions not fully supported by factual research. For example, a smart card, which contains a computer chip, will soon be capable of storing enough data to include a digital printout of your fingerprint, or iris scan, or voiceprint, or * scan. Not exactly as easy to forge as the old fashioned kind. Digital fingerprinting is currently being used by the Connecticut welfare department and has practically eliminated welfare fraud called double-dipping. So it's not exactly ineffective in catching crooks either.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Then I asume its worse than he says ,when we are tatooed and numbered like cattle only the most resorceful freedom fighters will be able to survive the persecution and gulags......

    Thoose having sofisticated computers and forging equipment .......

    JD

    Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    Where in hell is my Excedrin?


    ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
    Will270win@nraonline.com
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OH HELL NO, THATS THE LAST STRAW!! This part of the post really pushed me over the edge!

    Finally, carrying $10,000 cash in or out of the US (without reporting it) is by itself now considered a federal crime. Your cash will be immediately confiscated.

    Thats going to just kill me! What will I do now that I cant carry my 10,000.00 in and out of the country? I guess I'll have to get a credit card with a higher limit then. Geez, this will keep me up all night just thinking about it. But then.. if I had that kind of money I'd be willing to tell everyone, I'd feel like a king for the day.

    Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, need to take some paranoia classes to cure me, but...I could give a crap about any of these invasions of my privacy. OH NO! They're going to find out everything about me, that I have no savings, like to read my junk mail, and occasionally visit those sights. What is the point? That they will find out something about me that they wouldnt normally know unless they asked, and I'd tell them freely anyway? If you have nothing to hide, who cares? Now if you are out killing people and keeping a journal on your computer under the file, 'My Victims', you may have a problem.
    Credit cards from from foreign countries, yeah right! My phone records, and the importance of those would be that I dont call my mom enough?
    Bottom line...If maybe the FBI and CIA had done some work more like what some people associate with a past era of secret ops and that type of crap, with laws like these to back up their actions, we would not be where we are today, living with the aftermath of Sept. 11th fresh in so many people's minds. I'm done proving my point. Let the whiners shut up and do something positive instead of crying invasion of privacy.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I look at it this way, I carry a firearm, and I know how to use it. I'm also a very no BS, honest, and moral headed person, though I do have a sense of humor. But if I know somethings wrong (I.E. confinscate my 10,000 cash because I didn't report I was carrying it) there's going to be a few dead agents.

    But that stuff is all fine and dandy on paper, and those socialist basdards that think that crap up just love it. But the first poor * that happens to, will take it to court, and the supreme court will rule it bad, and then it will be repealed. Happens all the time.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is worst!, is not socialism ,It is Capitalistic communism ...Were all people are equaly screwd poor and destitute.....
    Exept the power elite....
    JD

    Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    I'm sorry robsguns,but I must take exception with one thing you said.
    "If maybe the FBI and CIA had done some work more like what some people associate with a past era of secret ops and that type of crap, with laws like these to back up their actions, we would not be where we are today..."
    This country has arrived where it is in part because our foreign policy.I'm a pretty straight forward,open minded individual,and I still don't see why we are willing to stick our necks out for Israel.
    What's in it for us?The Palistinians lived in that region(as did many,many jews)for a very long time in relative peace.Why was the"state" of Israel founded,and all those Palistinians forced from their homes and property?
    And what was the purpose of supporting the Shah of Iran?He turned out to be as much a tyrant as Sadam Husein.
    How about Manuel Noriega?Like the Shah,WE put him in power.
    CIA and FBI black ops is the reason we are where we are today.Black ops that involved the overthrow of other governments,the rigging of elections in foreign countries,definately.Domesticaly,
    probably.
    It's my understanding that the founders of this country,never intended this nation to get involved in foreign nations' internal
    affairs,and disputes between foreign nations.(the primary reason we never kept a standing army before WWII.)
    In the wake of the cold war and WWII,all that wisdom was thrown away
    for the sake of profits.Money!Large corporations,mostly defense contractors and oil barrons,saw the kind of profits that could be obtained by manipulation of the federal government in foreign relations.CIA,FBI black ops fuel change in nations that benefitted
    the money hungry,coporation driven economy we have now.Unrest in the middle east causes oil prices to fluctuate,and large orders for military materiale fill the pockets of people not interested in Liberty,not interested in justice.Intersted in profit.








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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thesoundguy1,
    I gotta go to work, but I'll explain what I meant later, I'm in agreement with you, I just have to explain what I meant better by that.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thesoundguy1,
    What I really meant was that the people who do not like the idea of the FBI or CIA getting into their business here at home should take another look at that. If the FBI were doing more nosing around about what the heck people are doing here at home, this 9/11 incident would probably never have happen. I do not believe in all of our involvement overseas either. I'd just as soon close our borders, police up our own problems, and start curing the problems here at home. I do believe that the CIA should be doing a lot more spying overseas to see what problems may be brewing, but I do not belive in installing governments/extracting officals, etc., unless there is a direct threat to the U.S. security here at home. I could care less about overseas interests of big business either. If they are dumb enough to put their people and property in danger overseas let them feel the pain of their own bad judgement in their never ending search for a dollar. I'm with you on this, trust me. Back at the height of the cold war I remember everyone worrying that 'Big Brother' was too much into their business. Now everyone is crying that they arent doing their jobs correctly. Well they got what they wanted, Big Brother quit doing its job, and look what else they got that they didnt bargain for. That is what I was meaning to say that I didnt say well.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    robs --
    In theory, there's merit to that, but the problem in the past was WHO the FBI decided was worth surveilling -- for a while it was anybody J. Edgar didn't like; he misused his power to "get the goods" on people and blackmail them, in some cases. Then there are the other choices the FBI has made -- like Martin Luther King, Jr. for example. They never seem to find the Oswalds, the Sirhans, the Squeaky Fromms, until after the fact, but by golly they've got their eye on the man who says "nonviolence" is the best way to attain racial equality. The trouble goes even further than that. It appears that when we let the FBI (let alone the CIA) and the BATF do joint internal ops, we get botched embarrassments, overreactions, and trampled human rights of, once again, the American citizens they don't like. If we could trust them to carry out the spirit of American law, rather than to doggedly pursue the enforcement of 20,000 gun laws against largely innocent Americans, I'd feel more comfortable about their track record warranting the extra powers we're talking about. Unfortunately, give them extra powers and you're liable to get more joint FBI-BATF activity against non-aliens, and the King's Men (the CIA) doing God knows what domestic lawbreaking. Because these people in the CIA believe it is their sworn duty to break the law "as needed" and lie about it. Don't forget that. It's one reason we like them a lot better when they're working overseas, on OUR side.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    Sorry robsguns,
    I was listening to the news,and it put me in a fightin' mood.
    The president now wants more power to move money congress has allocated to other programs, depts.,etc.,and put into "Homeland Defense".I'm sorry.I'm pissed and I don't know what to do about it!
    Our present government is nothing the way our founders envisioned it,
    and the little guy is powerless do anything about it.(At least within the parameters that exsist).

    www.waveformwear.com
    The new wave in free expression.

    Edited by - thesoundguy1 on 07/23/2002 16:15:50
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    offeror,
    You have a great point in your post, and I cant argue against that. I wasnt old enought to remember all of that, and didnt remember all that I'd heard about that era, yeah, that was a difficult time to live in. Still, some of that may, may, have been a requirement, I dont know.
    thesoundguy1,
    Its ok, I've been ticked off at the news for quite a while and know how you feel.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The point is that the institutions defending liverty violate the same precepts it wants to preserve ....

    You cannot end prostitution by puting up more cathouses ! and hiring more girls to sell....

    Its the People that need the power to defend and conserve freedom not a system to engage in the contrary (To destroy it) ....

    Nearly not a single article of the constitution that has being distorted and tramped by statutory adultery.....

    A point is nearing were the system will be entropicaly destroyed in order to be saved.....

    That is more easy than you may think ! (Petroleum is the key word!)
    No petroleum, nothing moves. Terrorism stops as its the petroleum money that goes to feed Al Qaeda armys....

    Many things will indeed stop ,It only takes a Match! in the right place at the right time .....



    JD

    Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Only time will tell what is in the silver spoon!

    Biblically, these things are to come to pass.

    Edited by - alledan on 07/25/2002 06:01:58
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Amen!

    Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
  • jager22jager22 Member Posts: 197 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    search all of the al-hazmi's out there.......again and again dont let anymore in
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