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communist VS capitalist and RELIGION

Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
3 subjects man (or lady) alike can be measured ,what's good about each?,what's bad? For thoose that like to burn the barn and hold heads in their lances ,here is the chance..... Spill it out !
Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram

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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go back under your rock.[This message has been edited by badboybob (edited 12-26-2001).]
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Afraid to engage? Good things about communist system.....Good medical care ...Good education if you show promise...Bad things poor food suply ,brutalizing and bad retirement plan....and no free speech Good things about capitalism ...money makes money if you know how , freedom of speech & freedom to do anything if you have or get the money to do it ,be it hard work...corrupt politics or selling drugs money speaks masses bow and listen... Bad things ,power corrupts ,money feeds power ,rat eat rat race ,enslavement to the mortgage ,the credit card and my dog is bigger than yours race to have better TV ,house and car than anybody else (status). Religion (Religare) "to unite" see movie "stigmata" thats my point of view....get recent published Dead sea scrolls and understand why the vatican is taking serious look at a total REVISION of the bible ,the movie was based in true life case of stigmata related to the scrolls. So is the impact of this documments that in conspiracy circles information circulates in relation to operation "Tabula Rasa" That is the provocation of WWIII in order to take man to a more primitive maleable state were religious and political controls can be reinstated , 911 became known as Diego Salsedo sindrome (The small indian learned how to take a god to its knees and drown him in its own concrete and steel) now he "BITES the dust" for his sins ,but the wall was torn down ,no restraints ,welcome to the age of intolerance and violent expresion,pandoras box open wide...
    Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram
  • Homer J SimpsonHomer J Simpson Member Posts: 89 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Judge dread, as a practicing Catholic and an avid follower of the Dead Sea Scrolls saga, all that will happen is 3 OT words will be changed, at most, and the Church will take 200 years to investigate each word.If you are a Protestant, don't worry. Nothing will change, as Protestants use a heavily edited OT, unlike Catholics, Jesus, and the Apostles.I love a good conspiracy, man, but this aint it.
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is nothing good about the communist system. Period. No good health care and no good education, unless you define brainwashing as education. Perhaps if you knew, and know people who have lived under this system, you wouldn't talk through the wrong end of your body. I still have relatives in Russian concentration camps (yes, they are still there).Capitalism is the only system which allows mankind the freedoms which are prerequisites to a natural life of the species.Religion has no place in politics per se, yet people who are involved in politics are often religious, and to not be influenced in any way by their value and belief systems would be disingenuous and also a betrayal of their own convictions. The only way to obtain a true "separation of Church and State" (which is not mentioned in the Constitution, nor inherent in any treatise on the true rights of mankind), would be to elect only Atheists, by law, which IS precluded by the Constitution, and by any natural law of rights.
  • Miss. CreantMiss. Creant Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The communist system has its merits. It is veryNever mind it is too late to get into this.
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The communist system never had, does not, nor ever will have any merits whatsoever.
  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm with you timber beast...communism was a chancroid on the world. I am most proud that I played a very tiny part in the demise and total defeat of that brutal form of government...communists almost made Nazis look good in comparison. My dad and his generation took care of the Nazi's! Beach
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ditto Timberbeast. It is interesting to note that the constitutional "the seperation of church and state", is anti-constitutional. It was a term invented in the past century, and it was invented so that the "free exercise" clause of the first amendment could be ignored and eliminated.The first amendment says "congress cannot make laws with respect to religion". Period.The unconstitutionally added 14th amendment, throws a monkey wrench into the concept of state soveigrnty, and the idea that the first amendment can be binding on the States is impossible. It was an amedment that dealt specifically with congress. The clauses "shall not establish religion" and "the free exercise thereof" are impossible to recognize and obey by the states. So come up with "seperation of church and state" nullify the "or free exercise" part of the amendment, and that is how states are binded by the first-by ignoring the entire text.
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We must remember that Communism and Capitalism are economic systems. We have no idea what a communist economic system would be like in a Republican or Democratic type system, so nothing can really be said about it. There are plenty of capitalistic tyrannical dictatorships that can be just as bad. The constitution and the republican form of government is what keeps us free and safe (for the most part). As far as religion goes, we have villified Santa, Christians, and general prayer. In order to make two people happy, we inconveniece two thousand. Freedom of religion has become freedom "from" religion. And that is bad news.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't remember where I heard this but....Some Russian guy was telling an interviewer how the U.S.S.R. also had freedom of speech.The difference between the U.S.S.R.'s and ours was, with ours, there was a good chance you wouldn't be in the slammer after you exercised it.Mudge the forgetful
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