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My new truck

mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Dodge Ram 3500 HD Dually, Quad cab, LWB, w/ 6.7 Cummins Turbo Diesel and 6 Speed manual tranny.

Love it, such a smooth ride for a 1 ton dually.

I'm really glad I waited and got the new 6.7 engine. This thing is a beast. Empty, there is no hill you cant top in 6th gear. If you're familiar with Sandstone Mt, you know what a b*tch that is to come up, or down. Every vehicle that Ive ever had would gear down on it. This pup went right up it in 6th gear and never thought twice.
Gotta love the jake brake. Its not a "toy" like I figured it would be, it works, and it works good! Sounds just like the big trucks.[:D]

I love this truck. Had it since Friday and already got 400 miles just playing with it.

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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    2014 Chevy. 25,500 miles.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Been around before, I think, but still funny and appropriate!



    I bought a new Ford F250 Tri-Flex Fuel Truck.
    Go figure it runs on either hydrogen, gasoline, or E85.
    I returned to the dealer yesterday
    Because I couldn't get the radio to work.
    The service technician explained that the radio was voice activated.

    'Nelson,' the technician said to the radio.
    The radio replied, 'Ricky or Willie?'

    'Willie!' he continued and 'On The Road Again'
    Came from the speakers.

    Then he said, 'Ray Charles!', and in an instant
    ' Georgia On My Mind' replaced Willie Nelson.

    I drove away happy, and for the next few days,
    Every time I'd say, 'Beethoven,'
    I'd get beautiful classical music, and if I said,
    'Beatles,' I'd get one of their awesome songs.

    Yesterday, some guy ran a red light
    And nearly creamed my new truck,
    But I swerved in time to avoid him.

    I yelled, '* Hole!'
    Immediately the radio responded with,

    Ladies and gentlemen,
    The President of The
    United States

    Damn I love this truck . . ..


    In God We Trust
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We've all seen 'em. The ads for new vehicles touting "no interest loans". Anybody know what the catch is? The small print always says "not all buyers will qualify". I'm suspect that one has to have a large down payment or some other thing that they're not going to disclose until you go to the dealer.I've got my eye on a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 that I'd love to have. Hate going in to the dealer and play those games only to have them pi$$ me off. I like to be prepared when I walk in the door so I can tell them exactly what I want. If they can't provide it without a lot of BS sales pitch, I'm outta' there.Anybody got any ueseful info?Ah'd 'preciate it!Mudge the impatient
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Mudge when I bought my new Buick (1998), I did the whole thing over the computer hassle free! I set up the car, the dealer, the financing and when I walked in, all I had to do was sign on the dotted line. No B/S, no last minute surprises. Deal went great including hugh discount because my brother-in-law is retired from GM. Try it!-Charlie
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelMember: NRA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2AMPD and the AARP. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Charlie....But I don't have a brother-in-law.Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. The most they can say is NO!Mudge the shopper
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    here you go Mr. Mudge,,have fun shopping http://www.autobuy.com/
    when all else fails........................
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  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mudge, Someday when you have a week or two let me tell you why you should not buy a ram. They will only give you 36 months interest free which makes the payments a little high. Rosie
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you have a bank that you have been with for a while, get a loan through the bank. They then give you a "sight draft" to take to the dealer, which is just like a blank check for them to write the price of the car on. The dealer likes it because they get all their money NOW, not over 36 or 60 months. In such a case, it is not unheard of for the dealer to lower the price a bit. After that, you just make your payments to the bank, and never have to work with the car dealer again, except maybe for scheduled maintenance or warranty issues. The point is, the dealers tend to look at you a bit differently when you walk into the showroom with a blank check ready to be signed over.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."[This message has been edited by Mark II (edited 11-22-2001).]
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rosie......yeah, that would work out to about $700 a month. Tell me about Rams. I haven't heard anything bad about the Dodges.e-mail me if you like. I'd really appreciate hearing anything you can tell me. I don't want to find out too late that I made a mistake. I've got Ford guys talking in one ear and Chevy guys talking in the other. They all say the same thing. "Bowties are the best!" "You're full of it. You can't beat the blue oval." Both have their good points and this will probably be the last truck I buy so I want to make sure I get what I want.MarkII. Good idea. My credit union will do the same thing. They call it "pre- qualifying". Basically the same thing as the bank. My credit union gets 7.9% though. Guess I'll have to shop around for a loan. You couldn't let me have $25,000 at 3% could ya'?Maybe njretcop......hmmmmThanks to all for the info.Mudge the researchere-mail: eneybl1@ix.netcom.com
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS![This message has been edited by mudge (edited 11-22-2001).]
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have you tried that website "lendingtree.com"? I saw it advertised, but I have never used it before. They say the banks will compete with each other for your loan. Who knows? But it may be worth a try.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."
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  • arthur wellingarthur welling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All questions of questionable financing aside, I must advise you to avoid that particular truck. Especially in the 4x4 version.I speak from 20+ years of vehicle service, a GM master, ASE certified, and work on them almost every day in a farming area where there are LOTS of them.Have seen some of the most incredible failures on these vehicles....
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  • arthur wellingarthur welling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hmm....Occurs to me that you might ask WHICH one is best then, if I am willing to speak so poorly of the Dodge....Man asked me once how I felt about Ford's.... I said: "I LOVE Ford's, I pay my mortgage with them".
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally I would never buy a brand new vehicle off the lot, period. As soon as it leaves the lot the value is going down, and everyone will give you an opinion of just how much that is, but you know if you pay 30000.00 for a vehicle you wont get more that 28000.00 the next day. Now ask your self just how important that percentage rate is compared to that loss you will be incuring immiediately. When you do that, think about that 7% from your credit union or bank again, and go buy that used, 1 year old vehicle that still carries its new car warranty in most cases.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I own an '87 Dodge Ram 150 that I bought new. Runs like a top. 318 V-8 and heavy four-speed tranny. Other than regular preventive maintenance and two clutches (did the work myself) I haven't spent a dime on it.I work with two guys who own newer Rams,1997 and 2000, and they love them. The '97 is a 3/4 ton with V-10 and the 2000 is a 3/4 ton with 360 V-8. Both are four-wheel drives. In fact, the guy who owns the '97 has right close to 100K miles on it and is shopping for a new Dodge right now. You'll always find people who prefer a certain brand of rig and bad-mouth the others, but talk to the guys driving the Dodges and I'll bet you won't hear much in the way of bad experiences.Look at the Daimler-Chrysler website and they'll give you all the poop on no-interest or low-interest financing.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Mama and I looked into buying a new van with the 0% financing. Found it was a come-on.You can have the 0% for 3 years only, and pay sticker plus T.T. & L, OR you can have a $3,000 discount but not both.We didn't really need a car, but were willing to buy one to help the economy. We passed.When I bought my truck, I sat down with the salesman, an older guy at a very old family-owned dealership. He punched up all the goodies I wanted at cost, added a $400 markup and that was my truck. I gave him a $200 deposit to order it, and it was here inside a month, exactly as I ordered, and about $2500 under sticker, not counting a $500 owner loyalty rebate. Sadly, that dealership recently changed hands, so I don't know if I can do that again.
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I suppose it IS job security when you work for a Dodge dealer. Just like the guys who have job security working for the Ford and Chevy dealerships.The warranty work is always coming back to the dealership.Or do you think that all the repair jobs in the Ford and Chev. garages are also Dodges?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    I like Chevys. I have gotten great service out of them with little problem.Wife likes Dodge mini vans. Ditto on great service, but the old one with 205,000 miles on it has some little things that don't work anymore.
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What truck to buy all depends on what you will do with it. Will you be driving it off road? Dont buy a GM or a Ford! Crawl under and look at the front drive system. You will cry! Crawl under a dodge and you will smile. Ford and GM have placed wimpy little geo metro front drive system on their front drives. The 4 wheel drive is only good for driving in an inch of snow on the highway. You want muscle? You want a tough truck? Get the Dodge. Dodge is the only one offering a solid front axle as standard equipment on 4x4's. The chevy's and fords are nice trucks and work well for "grocery gitten" but thats about it. They advertise them as tough trucks but they will break under normal(redneckin) use. I want a truck I can go 4x4n out in the mountains and go grocery shopping all in the same day. Just look at the front axles on a ford or a chevy and you will see what I mean.WIMPY WIMPY WIMPY!
    when all else fails........................
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  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On 10-15-01 I bought a F-250 4x4 x-cab diesel, list 38,100.00. I got 0% financing and $4,200.00 off the list price (the only add on was $129.00 documentation fee). The payment came out to $733.00 for 36 months after the down payment(which they told me I didn't have to make.) They took the application and in five minutes Ford approved and the paperwork was completed in about 15 minutes. The truck has 275 hp and 520 torque (6 speed) and you barely know that 12000 pound is behind it while towing (gooseneck). So far I have about 2000 miles on it and the highway driving mpg is averaging aroung 21 mpg. Also in response to other post the F-250 doesn't use the twin I-beam as the front axle anymore it is solid just like the f-350 has always been. As far as comparing trucks I like the Cummins engine in the dodge, but from the experience of neighbors dodge trucks the rest of the truck has a lot of problems it shouldn't. Also neighbor has a new Duramax Diesel, I did test drive it and my Ford seems more peppy than his(also I match him in torque 520) Another thing that worries me about the Duramax as I have had bad experience with before on other vehicles is the aluminuim heads. When aluminuim gets a little to hot is doesn't expand and contract very much it tends to crack. Also from reading a lot of post on gmc-diesel.com the Allison tranny on the new Chevies is not standing up very well.
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ford does not use twin I-beam on any truck anymore, they went to the same wimpy constant velocity crap that gm uses for 4 wheel drive systems. aluminum A-arms and half shafts for a full size 4x4, how sorry. if I have to spend extra money for a 3/4 ton or bigger to get a REAL 4x4 I'll stick to my homemade ford. In pennsylvania it is a total ripoff to have a 3/4 ton truck,tags cost twice as much and as far as the price of the vehicle.........................
    when all else fails........................
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Buy a Mod 379 Pete w/ a 600Cat trans of yore choice an about a 378 re w pete air ride an a 75" dubble bunk an be BOSS!!
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 2 friends that have newer Dodges, "4x4" both have been in the shop for front end work, on a averae of 6 times. Guess the could be lemons. Both are looking at new fords as we speak. Hope this helps.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like I opened a can of worms. Knew I would. Thanks for all the comments/advice.I don't really have any need for a 4X4. I don't do much hauling or any off-road. Just a nice 4X2 extended cab and 5 speed will suit me fine.As far as used goes, They guy who owns the bike shop that we go to also has a dealer license. (He also swears by Fords.) He's offered to take me to a "dealer auction" to find something used. The dealer auction is dealers only and they have a 10 day return policy that says if the purchasing dealer finds something wrong with the vehicle, (that wasn't noted on the vehicle at the time of sale) he can return it for a refund or the selling dealer has to repair it or make a price adjustment. That way I could get most of what I want and only pay the wholesale price for the truck.One of the mechanice that works at the bike shop has an Uncle that works at a Chevy dealer. He said he'd give me the same deal on a new truck that he gave his nephew. I saw the bill of sale and it was about $3,500 under sticker.Anyway, everybody has their favorites. Conversely, everybody has horror stories about the other brands.As out of character as it seems, I guess I'll have to make a decision. Mudge the befuddledps. ibtrukn.....thanks but BTDT. Drove a B-61 Mack and a "Binder" cab-over a lotta' years ago. Wasn't the most fun I ever had.
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS![This message has been edited by mudge (edited 11-23-2001).]
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Mudge what kind of bike do you have? I can't give you any advise on the truck mine is a 72 Chevy Short Wide Bed, My wife has a 2000 Chevy Z-71 Great Truck she uses it to go to the Grocery Store like the guy said! We compared it and the Ford when we bought it and It is roomier and has a much nicer interior than the Ford. A Buddy of mine has driven Ford Trucks for a number of years and recently bought a New Chevy He Trades every 30-40 thousand miles......A very reliable source has told me that 12% off of the list is a good place to start when buying a new vehicle. and when auto trader used to post the dealer cost on their webb site that agreed when we went to buy our truck! hope that this helps If you can do better more power to you and good luck! I think it all comes down to research and the Truck that you like......[This message has been edited by Otoman (edited 11-23-2001).]
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Otoman......'95 Road King. Mrs. Mudge '88 Low Rider.Mudge the biker scum
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ibtrukn,, You will be limited on the trans with the 600 kitty, to much torque for the eaton or rockwell 10's, you will need a good 'ol fashoined 13 or an 18 to handle it, also if i was specing the truck I would also get .355 rears that way you can really get out in the hammer lane and say,"time to smash dat gas and tote dat a@@!" Have you ever givin any thought to a Kenworth W900L with the 86" studio? I love Pete's to death cause "aint no feelin like peter mobilin" but I tell ya that Kwopper has got one heck of a nice shack on da back.
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  • dano toodano too Member Posts: 8
    edited November -1
    I guess someone has to buy a Dodge. Just won't be me!
    Life is too short to share it with another. Be your own person!
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Opinions about trucks are like noses.Everyone has one. They all smell.
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    Hey mudge I have a RoadKing also, crashed my "98" going 75 mph had to replace it with a 2000. my boy is ridding my old "89" Low rider now if you tell me you shoot a Kimber 45 auto I will know you are my kind of guy..I hate to disappoint you but I am a 99%er.....You better hurry up and get that pick up bought Its going to be getting cold before long....
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just trying to be polite dano too. Don't want to get poofed!
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  • arthur wellingarthur welling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mudge,Shop where I work has 7 techs working there.It's a LARGE 'country' shop and we work on everything from bale stackers to OTR trucks.We are amazingly well equipped and carry a lot of years experience between all of us, about 120 by my count. Other shops send their personally owned vehicles to us for diagnostics and repair.Lots of folks can tell you about 'their' vehicle and be totally honest about it, yet we work on HUNDREDS of vehicles each, every year.I added up today, Our ownership score is:Fords: 2 trucksGM's: 6 trucks, 5 carsChrysler products: Zero
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I go for the dirrect factory outlet via theinternet and have them ship to my local dealer ,he will leach less from you and have to serv the car.
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 97 dodge 2500 4X4 with a V-10 and auto in it. I bought the truck brand new off the showroom floor for $25,590.00. I have 123,500 miles on this truck, with NO shop time for major repairs. It has had the brakes repaired twice, and the fuel filter had to be replaced after my local gas station pumped a tank of dirty water/gas into it, and the thermostat I replaced myself. I use this truck for railroad contract work, and i can show proof that it has hauled over a million pounds of scrap to the junkyard or good material to customers. It almost always has a 30 foot goosneck trailer behind it, along with almost 1000 pounds of tools and torches in the box. I don't know about a Ford, but I had Cheveys before this, and could not keep them on the road. Since this is one of my business trucks, I can prove all that I say since we have the docs. to show. You guys can talk bad all you want about a Dodge, But I know that I can put more weight in the box of my Dodge than most pickups weigh, and still go 75 down I-29 passing anything in the way. If I knew how to post a photo on here, I would to show you guys what a million pounds of steel will do to a box! :-)
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    guns-n-painthorses I agree with you 100% on the toughness of the Dodge. I currently own a 91 F150 That I had to rebuild with a solid front axle, Major beefup in the suspension among a ton of other things. I am currently saving pennies to buy a new dodge. It is truly sad that GM and Ford brag about how tough their trucks are but when you get down and look at them they are WIMPY WIMPY WIMPY! Sure Gm put a big moter in a couple of trucks as did Ford but so what if they cant put a heavy drive train under it. Someone said they bought a 3/4 ton truck to get a solid axle but Dodge does it on all trucks as standard equip. All I can say is Ford and Gm hopped on the yuppie bandwagon and are making cheap "offroaders" like the SUVs for the crowd who has absolutely no appreciation for a truck. Like you said knock the dodges all you want but I guarantee you that if you get you best factory condition GM or Ford I'll take the dodge and we go see who lasts longer. If you want a truck buy a truck. If you want a grocery gitter ......well buy something else.
    when all else fails........................
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for all the advice/warnings. I've pretty much made up my mind and I MIGHT post a picture AFTER I get it. Then 2/3 of you can say...."You dumb Sh--. I warned you about them!" The other 1/3 of you, can tell me how smart I am.Mudge the decisive Otoman....No Kimber. Can't afford 'em. Been carrying a Commander lightweight for many years. Wouldn't give it up.
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Judge....are you talking about Priceline or Autotrader or one of those. I've gotten some pretty good prices off those two but still hate to take that "new vehicle" hit.Mudge the miserly
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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