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Motorcycle Question...

legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
edited March 2002 in General Discussion
Thinging about a new bike , a 650 V Star or maybe a 1100. Any body have one or the other? Good or Bad to say? Thanks!
Work'n like a dog all nite
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  • legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Until earlier this year it had been about 15 years since I had a street bike...and I'm just getting back into riding again.

    Is it normal to be able to catch neutral between gears (and I don't mean first and second). I have found that I will sometimes catch neutral 3-4...or 4-5. Is this normal? I've also noticed that this bike shifts kind of hard...kind of clunks when shifting instead of being smooth.

    Any ideas...it's a Suzuki Intruder 1500. I appreciate yall's input.[:)]

    Oh...one more question. This thing has a little sight window for the oil level on the very bottom of the engine. The level is currently in the middle of the sight window...half way between L and F...should it be all the way up to F...or right where it's at?

    Thanks again!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Those are Yamahas, right?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I only know about PANHEADS.
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
    NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
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  • gunny6gunny6 Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I`m very happy owning my 1996 Yamaha Royal Star, I think it`s the best bike I`ve ever owned..Had 3 Harleys, a Goldwing, and a VW Trike before the Royal Star..just my 2 cents..
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    legn4.....If you're getting a "bike" it'll say Harley-Davidson on it. If you're getting a "rice-burner", you're getting a "motorcycle".OK...OK...5-4-3-2-1...Hello 7mm.Mudge the BIKER
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • TED GARTED GAR Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, but the rice-burner, just needs gas and a tune-up every once in a while. I would rather ride, a riceburner, than PUSH..a Harley... NOT!!! I just cant afford a Harley. So I got to ride something...
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do dogs and Harleys have in common?They both like to ride in the back og trucks. Hello Mudge
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    Hey 7MM quit picking on ole Mudge. Besides everyone needs to start with an entry level motorcycle and work their way up to a Harley!
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Affordable???? The payment on my 2001 sporty is only $115.00 a month. Can't get any more affordable than that.WOODS
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Came THAT close to buying another "BIKE" the other day. Our mechanic goes about the country buying wrecked bikes to rebuild and sell. He came back last week with a BEEYUTIFUL '98 Dyna Wide-Glide that was cherry. (Guy's squeeze made him sell it and get a Road King.) Custom paint. Lots of chrome. (For you "motorcycle" riders, that's that shiny stuff that is mandatory for "bikes".) I was REAL close but would have had to give up the old Road King and I've put WAAAYYY too much effort into getting it like I want it to part with it.Mudge the yearning
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing looks like a Harley, and nothing sounds like a Harley. Nothing. Nothing vibrates like a Harley either. I will keep my beemer. Have not had a Harly yet stay with me all day. Love 'em, but I can't ride 'em.
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  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've got 50,000 miles on my '99 Road King,rode it from Florida to Sturgis SD twice without a hickup.Never had a problem with any of the Harley's I've owned,if you maintain it right it will out last a riceburner.If you just gas and go ANY engine in the long run you are looking for trouble.The key to a healthy Harley is the break in,once you do that right it will last you a lifetime. Oh and when it come time to get rid of a riceburner you will realize why Harley's are a better investment.You can find many used Riceburners on the market for $3500-$6500tops,but just try and find an excellent condition used Harley for less than $13000. Plus the chicks dig Harley's ,Josey
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No Dano, only five years. An 883 custom with tax and everything only came to a little over $8,000.00 Put a couple grand down and you get about $115.00 a month. It's a bit small fo my 285lbs but it's a Harley and when the extended warrantee runs out it'll be a 1200, not an 883. It's my first road bike since just after high school when I had a 66 BSA Lightning. WOODS
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  • legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boy did i open a can of worms , Looks like HD is winning. Going into the city in about a hr to do some looking, will report back. Thanks!!!
    Work'n like a dog all nite
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    The rubber-mounted Harleys don't vibrate much at all. Besides, it's a low-frequency vibration and not unpleasant. I owned a 1973 CB-750 Honda a million years ago and the high-frequency vibrations from that bike put my hands to sleep clear up to my armpits. I'll take the throb of a rubber-mounted Harley any day.When I'm on the road I routinely ride my FXRS five or six hundred miles per day, no sweat. I've ridden a thousand miles in a stretch on more than one occasion with no break except for gas stops. That's not a lot of fun, but it does give a guy bragging rights at the tavern.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Josey's got it EXACTLY right....MAINTENANCE!!Mine's only got 40K on it but has been to Sturgis 2 twice on the interstates at 65-70mph for 1750 miles each way. Not even a suggestion of a problem.I must admit, I got TERMINAL "biker butt" from the trip, but at my age, you expect some "creaks 'n groans".Mudge the biker ps. Mrs. Mudge's '88 Low Rider made it both ways in 2000. Same story....NO STORY
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Mudge: Get the hell off'n the freeways and do some MOTORCYCLING. If the only place to ride was the superslab, I'd sell my scoot.Nothing I like better than taking a five or six thousand mile trip and not turning a wheel on the freeways. All the two-lane backroads, through all the little towns that time forgot, seeing all the country that you can't possibly see from the interstate. Eating in little country cafes, staying the night in little mom-and-pop motels...Man! Now that's riding.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, I will admit the newer ones are fairly smooth on the road. I rode a friends lowrider one day and was impress with the ride. Then I came to a stop light and the low RPM vibration was so bad my glasses where shaking all over my face and I couldn't see when the light changed!Those back road trips are great in some areas Lowrider, but I kinda suggest that in some places like Nebraska, you will lose little scenery and gain a lot of time on the superslab. Now, Colorado and the Ozarks are a different story.
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    O.K. you guys got me all stirred up without any help from dano. So Here I go in the proper order I hope.HeDog B.M.W. makes a good bikeWoodsrunner 285# and a sporty, I hope you are no taller than 5'8" or your legs would have to be killing you. I am not sure but I think if the Dealer Changes out the Jugs on the 883 to the 1200 it will not void your warranty but check it out. At least it is that way with the Screaming Eagle Parts.Legn4 harley didn't start winning with this post they have been winning since 1903Lowrider you qualify for the Iron Butt if you doccumented your ride, regardless that is pretty Impressive.Lowrider I agree with you my bud and I call that ridding the Blue Highways.(off the 4 lanes that is. If you get the Book "Blue Highways by William Least Heat Moon you will know where we got that term. Only found in used book stores!HeDog don't make fun of Nebraska until you have ridden Highway 2 from Grand Island to Alliance. Very scenic through the Sand Hills.Ruger 9 The girls like the older harleys because of the Vibration, the older the better HUH.. Knucks, Pans and Shovels....The most beautyfull Ride I ever had on a 4 lane was comming back from Devils tower and Hulett Wyoming at night there was a full moon off to one side of the road and Thunder and Lightning off to the other side of the road. That was the Day that Jerry Garcia Died and what was ironic was my bud was listening to the Gratefull Dead on his sony Walkman durring that trip and we found out the next day about Jerry Garcia dying....Now for my Parting Shot Legn4 Ask how many of these died in the wool Harley guys, of which I am one. What their first Bike was and you will get down to the real nitty Gritty of this whole deal. My first Bike was a 650 TRIUMPH TR-6. But I will go to my grave ridding a Harley Davidson. Well I didn't mean it that way but you get the jest of the story.[This message has been edited by Otoman (edited 03-08-2002).]
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  • madminutemadminute Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take it from a motorcycle mechanic of over 20 years experience, and a racer to boot....If you want to be really cool, get chicks, and fit in at all the cool parties in Daytona and Sturgis with a semi-nude stripper riding on your back seat...get the Harley, the bigger the better....but be prepared for meticulous maintenance and the occasional breakdown in the middle o' F-k-n nowhere...If you wanna LOOK like you bought the Harley, but spend more time riding than fixin'..get a Honda Shadow, put all the Hondaline accessories on it, get the Cobra straight pipes and jet kit, and you'll pass the 50/50 test every time (at 50 yards doing 50 MPH, no one looking will be able to tell the difference)...So the choice is: way cool, kinda pricey, high maint.-OR-kinda cool, not half as pricey, can't break it if you tried......Hey, the Honda is SO close that Harley actually sued them over the sound...
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  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Hey, the Honda is SO close that Harley actually sued them over the sound..."But it is still a HONDA.Maintenance on your Harley is a labor of love and I've never been stuck anywhere on a harly,threw a couple chain on a Suzuki though.
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  • jdb123jdb123 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have seen more ugly chicks on the backs of harleys than i would ever want to remember. and i live in a city where 1 out of every 2 girls is hot! so for the money i save instead of buying a harley i will buy an island off of florida-now that will get chicks!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    The only time my Harley has ever let me down, and I have over 70,000 miles on it, was on a Reno trip and the cause of the malfunction was the piss-poor work done on it by my local HD shop. I tried taking advantage of the tail end of my extended warranty by having my oil-weeping cylinder base gaskets replaced at the shop. Since they had the top end off the bike anyway I had them install an aftermarket camshaft. I normally do all maintenance, repair and hop-up work on my bikes myself, but I DID have the warranty that was about to run out so I took it to the shop.Turns out, that with almost thirty thousand miles on the scoot, the idiots in the shop swap the cams and don't bother to replace the 20 dollar cam bearing. Install a new cam on an old bearing! And I'm guessing they damaged the old bearing in the process.I get to Reno and the thing is vibrating bad and starting to clatter. I take it to Reno HD and they end up working on it for three days and almost 800 bucks worth. Ruined my new cam, my lifters, pushrods, and damn lucky it didn't lunch out the cases.We had some serious words when I got home and the boys at the local HD reimbursed my money for the Reno repairs, but I don't do business with them anymore.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    lowriderplease email me at ysacres@hotmail.comI want to show ya a pic of my ride.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Ysacres, you've got mail.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • madminutemadminute Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, Yes, now the flood of guys who have never had a Harley break...and here in South Florida (in NO WAY related to the rest of the state) a nice hog is a huge chick magnet on the strip club tour...but yes, a 38 ft. Wellcraft WILL beat that any day, but it's tough to park at Pure Platinum, and the valet gets all pissy.....Threw a chain on a Suzuki? Of course. They're JUNK. I said HONDA. I worked for years as a Honda tech, and truthfully, in all that time I never had to take a Shadow 1100 engine out or open it up...you change oil, filters, plugs, and ride it. You'll spend more money on replacing the tires you wear out from riding it all over the country than you will on repairs. But it ain't a chick magnet like a Hog...
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lowrider.....Took the Interstates because of time constraints. NO...that's NOT an apology Mrs. Mudge, (Low Rider), and I (Road King),and our mechanic (Ultra Classic) and his wife, (Heritage Softail) and 2 other couples(Dressers of some sort) are doing the "backroads" to Alberta the end of July. Be gone a bit over 2 weeks. From Bunker Hill, WV to Alberta and back is going to be a total of around 6,000 -6,500miles. We'really looking forward to it.Probaly won't be able to sit for a while after we get back but that's a lot better than having your gas tank pound a mud-hole in your chest on a "crotch-rocket" 5..4..3..2..1 Hello 7mmI know...I know...NO GUNS IN CANADA> Mudge the agitator
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • loader44loader44 Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    if I could add my TCW.Bought a HD in 1988, it was in boxes, lots of boxes, ( single at the time )paid 4000.00. what I had bought was a 1980 FLH. three months later and another 4000.00. I had one of the best looking rides in San Antonio, Texas. Never went home alone, and the people I met were posivitly the best.The only problem I ever had was breaking a chain in the middle of nowhere, thought I would have to push it to the next town, ten minutes later , a guy pulls up and he loads my bike in the back of his truck, takes me all the way Chorpus Christy, the dealer would not take my check, the guy that picked me up paid for the chain out of his own pocket. He even had me over for dinner, let me spend the night at his place, showed me his HD collection, BEAUTIFUL BIKES. Put another 60k on it before I sold it, A new wife and two littles boys take a lot of money to raise. But , NEVER HAD ANOTHER PROBLEM with that bike, as for my other rice burners, that would take about ten days to write up all the problems with them.jmtcw.loader44.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,601 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Low,The problem with that 750 and the high freq. vibration was that you didn't have enough cylinders. Add a couple of more and you don't feel a thing. The neighbors' dogs act a little weird though! Hey if it doesn't have at least 6 carbs and 24 valves, I don't climb on. Hence the name.Ride safe,
    cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello mudge. I am going crazy trying not to post a big reply to this thread. You know how bad this is bothering me but I will be nice. Dang slow * noise makers! LOL
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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Hey Jeff: Yeah, I just picked up on your name. What year CBX are you riding? Those were definitely some cool bikes. And pretty damn rare these days, too.Mudge: Sounds like a great trip, Bro. The wife and I are thinking about doing the big loop this summer: north through British Columbia to Prince George, then southeast into Alberta and down the Canadian Rockies through Jasper, Banff, Lake Louise, then into Montana and back home through Idaho. Not as ambitious as your trip, probably only around 2500 miles. Plenty long enough in the saddle without a shootin' iron, though.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    7mm, you should know by now that you can't get old mudge stirred up. He Is mellow & smooooooooth. Besides us Harley guys know that we are throwing our leg over the ultimate bike everytime we fire her up...
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  • TED GARTED GAR Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay, My old 1981 goldwing will do 140. NO foolin. If I get a Harley, I want to get a Fatboy, with a Buell engine. How fast does the Buell do? I am the kind of guy that likes that reserve power, Dont want to get run over by a some motorcycle hater, in a hotrod.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The buell was a fatal attempt at a sport bike. It is not fast at all, when you read the articles about the super street bikes the Buell is nowhere mentioned. Granted it will beat the average cruiser with the Harley emblem on it but I wouldnt be afraid to put a bone stock Honda CB 350 against it. Those machines where made for one thing and one thing only, to putt around and make noise, period. The Harley guys will argue that the Buell is fast but we speed freaks know better. You take one of those big burley beer drinking chrome lovers and put them on a Hyabusa, R1, CBR 929 or a ZX and they will wet their pants. If you want speed you need to stay on a Jap bike. No other bike maker can put a machine on the showroom floor that will do 180+ and handle on the turns like the Jap bikes. I ride bikes for one reason and one reason only, and a Harley to me is a total joke. It's like comparing a Cub Cadet tractor to a vette. The only way to make a Hog go fast is to spend $20,000+ on the bike and then spend another $10,000+ on it to get it to even come close to a factory crotch rocket. Oto, I gave up on trying to get mudge wound up. If he is agreeable I may hop on my R1 and take a ride down his way when it warms up and say hello. Maybe then I get get him going a little when he sees me showing off! Hey, I love picking on the Harley dudes because I have never seen anyone as touchy about something as they are when it comes to their noise makers. Now alot of them will say we guys who ride fast need our heads examined for riding that way but to each his own. On my R1 140 mph feels like 60 on a Hog, I can cruise at 100 with one hand on the bars and the bike handles like a dream. They seem to forget that the Jap sport bikes are made and intended to be rode fast, the whole design is made around high mph riding. I ride my way and they ride their way, I'll just get there faster! Ok lowrider and all of you chrome plated beer drinkers, let the beatings begin
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    OK, let's try to cut through all the B.S. here. I like Harleys. I love MY Harley. I also like motorcycles of every size, shape and description. I've owned dozens of different brands and styles.No Harley enthusiasts are claiming their bikes are the fastest thing on the road. The very mechanics of a Harley engine make that impossible. A 45 degree, long-stroke, V-twin, pushrod engine in a 600 - 850 pound bike can't possibly compete with a four cylinder, multi-overhead-cammed, short-stroke, high-rpm engine in a four hundred pound machine. Harleys have a lot of potential for performance modifications, and can be hopped-up to double their stock horsepower and torque, but the engines don't last when you start over-revving them.I like my Harley for the style and looks, the riding position, the history of the Company, and for the low-end grunt from the engine which makes for a very relaxed riding style. I'm not constantly shifting the thing up and down to keep the engine in a very narrow power/rpm range like a lot of the high-strung Japanese machines. A lot of people like that style of sport riding; I don't. Each to his/her own.That said, there is NO "bone stock" 350 Honda that will out accelerate a Buell, or most any other Harley for that matter. The Buells run a tricked-out 1200cc Sportster engine, and while they won't stay with the Japanese crotch rockets, they WILL turn the 1/4 mile in the low 12's. If anybody has a "bone stock" 350 Honda that runs like that, I want to buy it. MY FXRS, with the performance modifications I've added, will run a solid 13 second 1/4 mile. Much faster than any foreign-made cruiser and any "bone stock" 350 Honda.Ted: I'd like to know what all you have done to the engine on your 1981 Gold Wing to get a 140 mph top speed? I bought a new Gold Wing in 1982, an 1100cc just like yours. Mine was the bare-bones "GL" model. No fairing, no hard bags, no trunk, no stereo or any of the rest of the garbage the full-dressed models came with. It probably weighed 150 pounds less than the Interstate model. It ran damn strong but no way in hell would it even come close to 140mph. The speedo went to 140, but certainly not the bike.And why would you want a full-sized Harley with a Buell engine? They aren't tuned/cammed for pulling around a heavy bike. A Road King or a Fat Boy with a 1200cc Buell engine wouldn't get out of its own way.A good friend of mine, a BMW rider, just got a wild hair and bought a Yamaha V-Max. He still has his Beemer but at 55 years old he got an itchin' for some speed. I've wanted to ride one of those bikes ever since they came out, and if he offers...I'm on it!All bikes are cool. All motorcyclists are my Bros.In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.[This message has been edited by Lowrider (edited 03-10-2002).]
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't ride anymore due to accident, and my wife (50+mph motorcycle vrs car)(Thank God for Shoei Helmet) That being said, I see things this way.Harleys have a profound history.Harleys have come a long way in the relibility area.Harleys are nice to look at.If performance is all you want, you dont want a Harley.At resell time you want a HarleyNothing on the planet can perform like a Jap bike.In the cruiser class nothing can compete with a v-max in the 1/4mileAfter all this if I had a chance and could convince my wife I'd buy a HARLEY
    ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm....LOUD?....LOUD??? The "crotch-rockets" have as irritating a SCREAM as anything I've ever heard. At least H-D's sound is within the range of the human ear.Lowrider said it....all bikers are my brothers.Dano...don't get all "hissy", we just love to "hack" on each other. H-D riders do it to each other and I'm sure every other biker "fraternity" does the same when they get together.Mudge the pacifier
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I said i'd report back and here goes. My local Harley / Yamaha dealer was very nice & shot me a price hard to beat.650 vstar classic $5450. Next local dealer 5900, didn't ask my name or anything just walked off. In the city (K.C.)didn't have one ,waited 10 min for a price , as I was walking to the car he 1) tried to sell me his surplus stock ( wrong brand/model) 2) Had a demo with pipes for 6200 Not ! Ad in the paper, 1998 vstar 650 classic 3500 obo. Checked it out, a union painter 7 months pregnant didn't need it. 4300 miles on it, I offered her 3400 & its in the garage now. Now before you disown me I couldn't drop 15000 to 21000 on my first big bike.Unlike my truck that i use every day. I have 3 close freinds with Harleys, Roadking,Fatboy & a FL something. With some crome i think it will look almost as good and this olde farm boy has several thousand $$$ left to spend on GUNS! I hope Bikers are like Farmers, you help each other. ps. after a few miles I think could handle a 1200 or 1600.
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  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Legn4I was serching through the want adds today and found a,New 2001 Yamaha 650 V-star classic, only 100 miles, $6000 509-926-1894 (Spokane WA)That $5400 looks like a good deal, Get on that bad motorscooter and ride
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