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Glock 30 for first glock

i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
edited September 2003 in General Discussion
Saw a NIB Glock 30 today for 550.00 is this a good price or should I just stay away from Glocks?
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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Given all the recent Glock bashing, it's an average price, not a great price. If you're used to firing .45, the same caliber in a first Glock shouldn't matter. I haven't had a Glock in years, so I can't say whether all the bad press of late is warranted. Personally, I'd spend another $100 and get a USP.
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  • HangfireHangfire Member Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never been a Glock fan. I agree, H&K is a class act-Bob

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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    I will sell ya a mint used glock with two mags, model 21 (.45 cal) for $499.00 with free shipping. interstatekashkonverters@sunflower.com


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  • i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got any pics interstate?
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is an ad here in town this week for a used G30 and I'm dying to find the money before it sells. Probably too late already.....

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  • mballaimballai Member Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I forget what I paid for mine, but I don't think you are overpaying at $550. The 30 is one of the best .45s out of the box that you will ever find--it's real accurate and shoots well. In my book this is one real bargain in a .45 and it will hold its own with most any of them. With the exception of a SIG P220 ST, you'd probably have to go with a high end 1911 (over $1000) if you wanted something much better overall.

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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    The M30 is a nice handgun, a little package with a lot of 45ACP ammo at your disposal. The M21 is a great gun as well (my personal carry gun too) but it is a fullsize gun which is not easily concealed. I suppose we should preface this discussion by asking what you want to do with it. If you want a CCW piece the M30 or the single stack M36 would be good choices. If you want a comfortable shooter then the M21 would be a better choice. So what application are you going to use it in?

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  • i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well Joey it might end up a CCW but I am just better with compacts as I do most of my shooting with a taurus pt140 and a smith and wesson cs40.The only fullsize guns I do well with are revolvers.
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Well then, the 30 would be just about the right size for what you're looking for. I'm looking at getting the 36 though, that's a REALLY compact package. PS: the price listed is a little on the high side. If they'd go closer to $500 it'd be better.

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  • i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the replies he will go down to 500 because my brother bought a berette 9000 from him so I feel a little better.What about other products for this gun sights hi-cap mag and such are they avalible.
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    I bet Meprolight makes night sights for them, but the factory sights are pretty nice. The M21 13rd mag should fit it but it will hang out the bottom about an inch. Glocks don't have to many bells and whistles available as they aren't something to make a race gun out of really. They are reliable, accurate, and easy to use. They're also "dishwasher safe" if you get it really packed full of dirt[;)]

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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Grits, look at a brand new model 21. You cannot tell the difference between that one and the one I currently have for sale.

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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    quote:Well Joey it might end up a CCW but I am just better with compacts as I do most of my shooting with a taurus pt140 and a smith and wesson cs40.The only fullsize guns I do well with are revolvers.

    Interstate, that would have been my recommendation too except for the compact requirement. $499 for a M21 is a good price though, does it have the newer frame with the tac rail or is it the early model?

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  • i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the offer interstate but as i was telling joey I tend to shoot better with smaller guns.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As long as we're mentioning guns for sale, if somebody would just give me $450 obo for my excellent Rem 742 semi-auto carbine in .30-06 I might be able to get the money together in time to buy a friend's Glock 30 this week.... Heck, I'd even take PayPal.... [8D]

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Promised a range report, in another thread, on the M-30 I picked up. This is as good a place as any. So here it is.

    Shot it.
    Sold it.

    For $400.

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Bought a new Glock 30 last year for $545.00. I love it. Three Glocks so far and nowhere close to done buying 'em.

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought Glock put Mepro night sights on their pistols at the factory. I don't think Glock manufactures their own night sights. If they're not Mepro then what sights are installed at the Glock factory?
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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    Yeah, I was pretty sure they were Mepro's but I was sure.

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I thought they were Heinies.

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  • kingjoeykingjoey Member Posts: 8,636
    edited November -1
    D$@#%#, Now I'm not sure[;)]

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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Just picked up one of the local buy sell trade rags, looked in the guns and hunting supplies section. Theres a Glock 22 with extended mag release, 3.5lb connector, two pre ban 15 rnd mags for $450.

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  • Nomad00Nomad00 Member Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glocks are a great introduction to handguns because they are durable, easy to take down, they digest anything and there's a lot of accessories available. $550 for any Glock is a little high, unless maybe it's a "C" model with night sights.

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  • mballaimballai Member Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of the very best things about a Glock is that you either love them or not and you aren't likely to spend a lot of time, effort and money into making them differently than when you bought it. I had a trigger job and a larger release done on mine, that's pretty much it. And even that wasn't essential--I'm just fussy. I might add a Big Dot sight later, but there's no rush.

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  • i luv G.R.I.T.Si luv G.R.I.T.S Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Het Pickenup what didn't you like that caused you to sell it so fast?
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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The trigger safety kept getting in the way, the tip of my finger started getting sore after just a few mags. I know other people who have overcome this, and have no problem with it. Then there is a slightly different angle on the grips that (for me) caused it to NOT have a natural point of aim, I had to adjust it before EVERY shot. At 15 yards (without adjusting) it would hit a couple of inches low on the "A" zone (on the head) of an IPSC target. If it is not going to hit where I "naturally" point it, I am not interested. Other than that, it had no failure to feed (or any other) problems, it put the empty brass in a fairly small area, and shot fine.


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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,535 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lover of Girls Raised in the South.. $550. sounds a little tall for one. Plenty on GB now for a buy it now price or even some with a lower reserve. Good luck..
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  • shooter4shooter4 Member Posts: 4,457
    edited November -1
    Why would you even think of buying a Glock, (stir, stir stir)
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's right -- why think, just DO IT! [:D]

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  • Cameron203Cameron203 Member Posts: 210 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have checked local gunshops also. I am currently in the market for a GLock 30. I currently own a HK USP Compact 45 SS and a Glock 21 and before the HK had only owned glocks never had one problem with them. Highly recommend. As for price lowest I have found is 525.00. But 550.00 is about average, I live in FL I don't know how that compares to prices nationwide but that is the current prices here. So 525.00 with tax is about 575 probably. Unless you have a FFL it is hard to find good deals, on new guns. But even buying off here cheapest Glock 30 I found was used and it went for 430.00 so with like 20 bucks shipping and about 40 bucks to a local FFL dealer that comes to 490.00.(assuming no tax)
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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not positive about it, but I think the 30 will take the high-cap 21 mags and there is even a grip extention that will slide over it to feel more like a natural handgrip and not a mag hanging out of the bottom. Of course then you can pop in the compact mag for carry. This'd be a great combo for home (hi-cap) and carry (standard-cap).
    I have a model 20 Glock in 10mm and I don't think I'd trade it. You might want to consider the G29 http://glock.com/g29.htm over the 30. Check the specs, you'll see it is a much more powerful round. However, if you have a lot of other .45's then maybe you want to stick with it.
    Of course if it doesn't have night sights you can add them, and also there's a neat internal laser that'll work great with 'em.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found the money and picked up the Glock 30 here locally for a deal price of $400. Couldn't be happier. A Glock 30 is a fine first gun -- easy to operate, and very shootable, which the magnum pressure cartridges sometimes are not. I'm glad to have a Glock on hand again and I got a steal at $400, given that even the second-hand guns coming from SOG from police stock are costing $469 in the big bores. In fact, H&H here in town had a 10% off sale this past weekend and their new Glock prices were $469 for the small frames and $519 for the 20, 21, 29 and 30.

    Incidentally, having spoken to a Glock rep by phone 2 weeks ago, he says they are now selling their own sights, i.e. a "Glock brand." I don't know for sure who makes them, but you can get a set factory direct from Smyrna for around $59. I'm waiting to see about prices at the next gun show. He claimed, by the way, that the Glock night sights were neither Mepros nor Trijicons.

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  • Cameron203Cameron203 Member Posts: 210 ✭✭✭
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    A glock 29 more powerful than a glock 30? Unless I am mistaken the glock 29 is a 10mm which is a little bigger than a 9mm; and considerably smaller than a .45. Maybe it has more penetrating power but does it have more knock-down power? Anyone have specs on these guns and which is more powerful?
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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes Cameron203,, go to ANY ammo manufacturers website (that lists their specs) and compare the specs, the 10mm has a higher velocity and energy than the .45 ACP. However, the do have much less offerings than they do for the .45 ACP and are a little harder to find at local gun shops.
    Maybe this picture will illustrate:

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    I got these figures directly from Winchester's site (http://winchester.com/)

    10mm:
    175 gr. Super-Xr Silvertipr Hollow Point
    Velocity (fps) 1290
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 649



    .45 ACP:
    230 gr. Supremer SXT
    Velocity (fps) 880
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 396

    170 gr. Super Clean NTr (Tin) Super Clean NTr (Tin)
    Velocity (fps) 1050
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 416

    185 gr. WinCleanr Brass Enclosed Base
    Velocity (fps) 910
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 340

    230 gr. WinCleanr Brass Enclosed Base
    Velocity (fps) 835
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 356

    185 gr. Super-Xr Silvertipr Hollow Point
    Velocity (fps) 1000
    Energy (ft. lbs.) 411
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  • Cameron203Cameron203 Member Posts: 210 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But you can clearly see the bullet is much bigger, why would it have more power? Is it just penetrating or knock-down?
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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Read the specs, the facts are right there...

    Yes, there's something to be said for frontal area - years of hunting with a .50 caliber black powder and a .300 mag has shown me that speed and energy doesn't always equate to stopping power. If one uses only frontal area as a judgement then a .300 mag is less effective than a .45 ACP.
    The 10mm's ballistics are identical with a .357 mag and can be hotloaded to .41 mag levels. Imagine, in a Glock 20 (pre-ban) there is 15 rounds in the magazine and one in the pipe to equal to the power of more than 2 fully loaded .357 mag revolvers.
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  • spectre7spectre7 Member Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 10mm, from what I have read, is an excellent combination of bullet-mass and velocity. In the statistics within Bambihunter's post you will notice that at 175 gr. the bullet is still travelling just under 1300 fps. In contrast the .45 at 230 gr. is only achieving 880 fps. When you couple the specs of the 10mm with defensive ammunition *like corbon*, most of the reports I've enountered indicate it has excellent penetration and expansion properties in most targets, meaning that all that energy (649 ft/lbs)gets dumped into the tissue-mass it strikes.

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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spectre7, So, you like 10mm's AND the show Family Guy AND computers... Despite what everyone else says - you're all right. [;)]
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  • spectre7spectre7 Member Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why thank you.

    As soon as I can keep myself, and subsequently my wallet away from the gunstore for a few months I really want to pick up one of the Witness pistols in 10mm. I put a few rounds through one of the compact models with the Wonder Finish a week or so ago and despite the recoil *which was a bit more than the .357 sig I'm used to firing* it was a real blast to shoot. Did some very satisfying damage to the staked-up pumpkins we were blasting away at as well.

    As for The Family Guy; oh yes, I have all of the episodes on DVD[:p]

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  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 10mm compact Witness will probably be my next handgun purchase. I only carry now when I travel and my Glock 20 stays in the bags usually but I want it in case of break down. I have also been hounding the Kansas Dept. of Wildlife to allow the use of the 10mm since they allow the .357. I was getting no where on it until I mentioned that S&W offered it in a revolver. I guess they are just set-in-stone coots that didn't want anything else because it was a semi-auto... Who knows?!?
    I've got all the Simpson's on DVD (first 3 seasons), something like 7 Beavis & Butthead DVD's (for the times when I'm feeling silly and stupid), Family Guy is on my list to get next. I just started watching it maybe a year or so ago. Sometimes it'll go several episodes without a great joke then bam, they slip one in that makes me fall out of my chair! [:D]
    Fanatic collector of the 10mm auto.
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