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Hard times....i guess just part of growing up

quickslvr982quickslvr982 Member Posts: 158 ✭✭✭
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
I was with my girlfriend today and i could tell something was up. She says to me i have to tell you something. I knew it was over right there. And she says to me that she cant be "attached" to anyone right now. For you older guys can you make heads or tails of this. There was nuthin wrong in our relationship is was great and i couldnt have been happier i mean just this firday we were having a great time. And it just hurts to know that all the good times we shared are over and that i lost one of my best firends. Any advice or words of wisdom well help my dads out of town and i didnt know who else to turn to and ive always respected the majority of the people here. thanks

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  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sometimes it's best to just say OK..I have been married twice now and had too many girlfriends that end up flakes...Just smile and don't ever let it get you down..Get the first day,month,year over with and carry on is all i can say...

    1. Never beg a woman to try and make it work.
    2. Never make it look like she hurt you and you can't go on without her that's B.S.
    3. NEVER EVER DATE HER FRIEND TO GET BACK AT HER.
    4. Take your time to find someone else do not no matter what look for someone just like her it don't work.


    I have done all four and hurt myself more then she hurt me

    And don't call her let her call you.

    Hey i know it sucks but you know what the world keeps turning..

    NRA MEMBER
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    Since I don't know your age, I can only speculate...

    1. You both are too young and you're too serious. If so, she did you a big favor.

    2. You were in the checkout line, but she was still shopping. Again, she did you a big favor.

    3. Possibly her intuition told her that things just weren't right. It sometimes happens and a breakup is probably best.

    My intuition... See #2. I'll bet she's in the checkout line with someone else by now. In any case you can't force someone to love you. They have to do that all on their own. Give things some time and they'll get better.

    Nord
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    I think this would be a good one for Eric Williams?
  • jdb123jdb123 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ah, getting "dumped" one of my specialties, sorry to hear of this, it hurts and it will hurt for a while. as nord said she probably did you a favor. hang in there and better luck next time.
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    Time is the great healer-There will be good days ahead in your life. I lost my 1st Wife at a very early age, and thought that life was over, but the world went on for me, and it will for you, too. Just remember, as Neische said" What does not kill us makes us stronger" . Got me through some tough times. Luck. Dan
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Been there, done that, got a closet full of the T-shirts.

    The hurt will pass. It just takes time. Make no big changes in your life. Hang out with your buds. Go hunting.

    Above all else, never let her see that you are hurt. Never call her, never drive by her house. Nunca.

    I figure she saw the relationship getting to serious when she wasn't ready, or else she found another interest. Either way, bear it with a big smile, and spend your time doing things you enjoy.



    SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the best gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Women almost never break up with a guy unless they have a new boyfriend. She doesn't want to say "I am dumping you for another guy". So she says something vague that you don't understand. Take it from Harleeman and me, two who know, "Never beg a woman to try and make it work." She will think you are weak. Women detest weak men. "Never make it look like she hurt you and you can't go on without her." I know this is a tough time for you but you have to just tell her, nice to know you, see ya later. Spend some time by yourself and with some of the guys. You will get a new girlfriend by and by, probably better than the one you just lost. And, you might get back together with her, later on, but you won't get her back now by begging.
  • redcedarsredcedars Member Posts: 919 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Quick, I think you are getting some good words of wisdom and advice here. I probably won't do as well, but I'll try.

    DO NOT waste time trying to "understand". There is nothing to understand except that she has moved on, and apparently had no qualms about dropping a bomb on you and leaving you behind in the smoking wreckage. She did not get to this point overnight, which means she has been less than honest and candid with you, at least recently. In short, she has been decieving you about how she feels, and has done so to serve her own purposes, whatever they are. I know it doesn't ease the pain at all to know, but you ARE better off without her. Get as far away from her and her circle of friends as you can, because they are probably a bunch of sh**heads too.

    The sooner the hurt turns to anger, the better off you will be. You should be angry. But don't let your anger get the best of you; try to use it for motivation. If you can't avoid contact with her or her friends, stay way cool. Time heals all wounds, but it also wounds all heels. You will get over this, but she will probably always be an a******. Her time is coming, sure as death and taxes.

    Popular wisdom has it that women are emotional and men are logical, but in my experience women are more likely to be mercenary, calculating and cold in affairs of the heart. All too often they are keeping up appearances, using a guy to work on some other guy's head, or just passing time while they are looking for a better deal on the love market. In the process they are perfectly willing to deceive someone who may truly care for them while looking for a "catch" who makes more money, has more status, etc. We men are more truly romantic at heart; most of us actually want a woman to love and who loves us; we are more easily hurt, we just try to conceal it.

    Been there myself, more than once. Not always because I wasted affection on a witch; sometimes it just doesn't work out. But this one sounds like poison; if she really cared for you she would not have treated you this way.

    Years ago, after a particularly tough hit, I really tanked it. I was ignoring work and drinking too much. Even got into a fight in a tavern with a guy I thought of as a friend when I finally figured out she had cheated on me with him, and that he and his buddies thought it was a big joke. Kicked his * but it didn't make me feel one bit better. In fact, it just caused more problems, and I was lucky not to be prosecuted.

    After that my best friend sat me down and told me to shape up and get a life. He reminded me of some of the good things I had done. He asked me if I was going to waste the rest of my life crying over my little setback, especially since it was obvious to everyone but me that I was better off without her. Pointed out a few of our friends who had REAL problems, like illness and death in the family. Finally I decided I was going to do what I wanted to do with my life, and if I never found a decent honest woman to share it with, so be it. I finally knew in my heart that no woman was better than the wrong woman. From that point forward, things got a whole lot better.

    Keep busy with your favorite pastimes; spend some time with your closest friends. Don't look back.

    redcedars
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kind of like SaxonPig says, 'Always trade up', in this case meaning, next time get one more suited to you, and better than the last one was at everything. Dont forget looks aint everything either, they might help, but they aint everything. My wife isnt the queen of fashion or the queen of the Nile, but she lets me buy any guns I want to, now thats what is important. I felt like you after my first serious engagement, and subsequent break up after nearly 3 years. Thank God for unanswered prayers. Shes a fruit now, (my ex that is), and my wife looks mighty good to me, even after 2 kids and 4 moves and 14 years of putting up with me. You probably just had the biggest favor done for you that you will ever have done, and dont even know it. Chin up and carry on with the plan of the day. There is nothing gained by dwelling on the past, just learn from it. Good luck, Ryan.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC

    Edited by - robsguns on 09/17/2002 23:13:26
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Darn that Judge Dread.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    She might have broken up with you to get you to realize how important she is to you...She may want you to see that without her, life is not worth anything and she means the world to you and wants you to take the relationship to another more serious level... I am not saying all women do it.. some do... Myself I detest woman and men that play games...Be straight...



    Lil' Stinker's Opinion
  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings, 10-4 on the mercenary spirit of most women. and some good advice and wisdom here. two things to add, one never chase after women or buses you'll only get left in the dust, breathing hard. and two and most important for your own self worth think of this as a cartoon like wylie cyote and laugh about it. laughing is good theropy, esp for guys. respt submitted dads-freehold

    if your going to be a savage, be a headhunter
  • bwabwa Member Posts: 224 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The heart of man[generic -refers to both men and women] is like deep waters..." So says the Bible -"deep" originally meaning "murky"; in other words, you can't just look at the surface and be able to tell what's going on down there. So it is with every one of us, including your former girlfriend. She may have done this for one or more of the reasons already suggested here, or for one of a number of other reasons, some of them unfathomable by most people. Many people who say such things harbor a deep fear of being hurt or abandoned, so they avoid committed relationships. A corollary is a profound inability to trust. I knew an attractive young lady in grad school who did the same thing to two good men while she was in school there -all because she couldn't believe any man who told her that he loved her. Some such people try to find a diplomatic but not really honest way of expressing their fear or distrust -such as "I can't be attached right now."

    None of us here can say with any degree of certainty just why this particular girl has done this -her heart is like deep/murky waters. All we have to go on is your brief paragraph. But I would avoid being too hard on her; she may well be struggling with something similar to what I've mentioned above.
  • Robert ColeRobert Cole Member Posts: 168 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go to college, you will thank God that your single.

    -Robert , first year college student and engaged
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been involved with a * and off since I was 17. I'm now 21. We've been living together for probably over two years now. All I can say is that I really love her, but I really wish I would have met her alot later in life. I'm in the prime of my s*xual peak, with more woman available to me than ever before. Yet being faithful to one really sucks.

    When your 21, have your own car, can drink, have a promising future, work out and look decent, keep up with your higean, you have alot going for ya. Or so woman think. They will judge you by your appearance, and they are all out for a better mate. If one better comes along, they leave ya for him. Its natural. And don't bother trying to learn about love lifes by watching TV. Its a total crock. Girls are a whole lot simpler than TV shows them to be. At least the ones you meet at clubs.

    But the main piece of advice I can give you is, WRAP YOUR RANGER, cause there is more stuff going around. Boy, I've had my share of scares, but nothing yet. And if ya gonna get drunk, I'd advise ya put it on before hand, so at least when your so drunk you wont remember, ya'll already be prepared.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lots of good advice here - maybe "Dear Gun Broker" could become a syndicated column?
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will you be our Dear ABBY Iconoclast ?

    NRA MEMBER
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    LOL

    Maybe

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    LOL

    Maybe we

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    LOL

    Maybe we should just

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    LOL



    Edited by - leeblackman on 09/18/2002 06:25:06
  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know how you're feeling, my divorce is final in Oct. and it still hurts a little, but I think it was more the security and my pride more than anything, we never got along and it lasted 11 yrs; Trust me- you don't want that situation either
    LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE---SHE LEFT YOU FREE JUST AS HUNTING SEASON IS GETTING UNDER WAY!!!!!!!!!!
    Time heals all wounds, brother, like my dear ole dad says- never do anything you can't take back (at least until you know for sure)-Ralph

    Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quicksilver:

    Just as she was your choice, you were not hers. It does not diminish you as a person, remember that. When you say there was nothing wrong with your relationship it leads me to believe you were not paying enough attention to it and that may have been part of what she sees as a problem. Some people view a relationship like a family portrait, they only see the part that features them. You have to see the whole thing to appreciate the whole thing and it has to be reciprocal.

    What she does now with her life is no longer your concern. Mind you own business and I mean that in the literal sense. Take care of you. And don't worry if she should know you got hurt, nothing unmanly about having feelings.

    Forty years ago I married the second woman I ever loved and it turns out I was the second she had loved. That should be your focus, love. Whether it is the first, second or fifth, make sure the love is there before you make a commitment.

    Life is like an `ace', its worth depends on how you play it.

    Good fortune to you.

    Clouder..
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    red cedars- well put "Women are more likely to be mercenary, calculating and cold in affairs of the heart...often...they are just passing time while they are looking for a better deal on the love market." So true. I wish someone had taught me that when I was fifteen. I had to learn it in the school of hard knocks and didn't learn it until I was 30.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quick, I was in a similar situation years back. I dated a girl in highschool who I adored. I would have foolishly married her at age 18 or 19. After being devastated by her running around and playing games I just dumped her and didn't look back. That relationship still hurts sometimes, and that was 11 years ago. My wife and I have been together for 9 1/2 yrs and married for 4. If I hadn't been trodden on, and made to move on into the world, I wouldn't have found her. Sometimes, the bottom is the best place to see which way you want to go to reach the top. Find another one, and move on. If she comes back, and it turns out she was playing games to "see how much you cared", then be merciless, and carry on without her.

    remember too, that you are a better man for every relationship you have been in. You have learned many things about yourself and women, it just takes a while to realize it sometimes. Life is one big learning curve and you just hit some trigonometry, so work hard, it gets better.

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
  • Old hickoryOld hickory Member Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Red Cedars : Well put. I've had 3 broken marriages . One, my fault,
    one hers, and an early one which was a draw. Only two kids, who are grown and seem fine. The main thing I'd say is keep going to work and don't let a mess up on the job make it worse. I still like women, but I'll have to find an awful good one to get married a 4th time.
    Good luck everyone out there - and treat your girl like you'd like to be treated...
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My pal Nord nailed it. Saxon's first post gave you some great advice. Reread both. Anyone who gets married before they are 30 is ill advised. Sorry your heart is broken, for what little it may be worth, everyone here has been there, most of us more than once, and can feel for your pain. The good news is you will live, it does get better. Buy a new gun to remember her by, thank her for doing you a favor, and raise your standards for the next one.

    A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Someplace, somewhere there is a 13 year old boy rolling around on the floor laughing his can off.
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ?

    The itsy, bitsy spider crawled up the water...
    BLAM BLAM BLAM!
  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    She doesn`t work down the hall
    from Saxon Pig`s office,does she?

    .218
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