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84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 11,109
edited October 2018 in General Discussion
Watching NCIS (New Orleans) Gas canisters stolen, towards the end of the show, Jewelry heist in play, utilizing the Gas. NCIS Agents flip their baseball caps around backwards, put on their modern Tactical style Gasmasks. (No eyepieces, just one large clear frontal coverage.) A Huge improvement, over what we used.

The BS comes in to play, thinking you are going to get a Seal around your face, with a backwards baseball cap in use. Looked pretty cool. Totally stupid.


Yes, I know it is just TV. (NBC Specialist here. Little things matter.) Wrecked it for me.

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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,951 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Artistic license, you are going to need one.[}:)][:p]

    Somehow I always notice the skid marks on the road where they practiced then botched the first two takes. I usually see the piece of telephone pole roll away after they fire it out the back floor to make the car launch and roll over.

    But hey, this is nothing new, remember Roy's six shooter that fired 18 times before a re-load?
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    84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 11,109
    edited November -1
    Yes HeDog. It is kind of like Tires squealing, on a Dirt road. Another personal favorite.
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    Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,260 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you think you know but there is no way to be certain without trying it. If you have a mask and a ball cap I think I have an old can of surplus mustard gas that I can send you but you really need to video tape it.[:)][:)][:0][:0][:0]
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    Yes HeDog. It is kind of like Tires squealing, on a Dirt road. Another personal favorite.


    Actually tires do squeal on dirt roads if the road is hard packed...

    But most of the things that Hollywood does is for visual entertainment effect. Why do you think I don't watch TV or movies anymore...
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My favorite: Opening the cylinder on a DA revolver, & spinning the cylinder produces a click-click-click-click sound.

    Neal
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    medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My wife hates watching some movies/shows with me because I nit pick the details

    Like how the body reacts when shot...i.e. flying back 5 feet

    The "click" as they take the safety off...of a Glock

    Racking the slide each time the draw a pistol

    Hollywood foley artists need to get some everyday people in there that know something about firearms and get some EMTs/Trauma Docs that see GSWs constantly
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    Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,260 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had an author pay me $200.00 once to spend an hour answering her questions about firearms and tactics for a book she was writing.
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by medic07
    My wife hates watching some movies/shows with me because I nit pick the details

    Like how the body reacts when shot...i.e. flying back 5 feet

    The "click" as they take the safety off...of a Glock

    Racking the slide each time the draw a pistol

    Hollywood foley artists need to get some everyday people in there that know something about firearms and get some EMTs/Trauma Docs that see GSWs constantly
    Racking the slide on a pistol or shotgun right after you had already racked it and no round fly's out.
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    JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When NCIS became a TV show my opinion of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS), formerly Naval Investigative Service (NIS) was already as low as it could go, so I haven?t wasted a minute watching the show.

    What you describe sounds like an Oxygen Breathing Apparatus (OBA) which is fire fighting gear. In a pinch it might work as a gas mask, I?ve never heard of it being tried and don?t know why anybody would. The Navy usually just uses a gas mask for toxic gas.

    I guess you could say the NCIS (the TV show) was just following the example of the real NCIS. If it is possible the NCIS is even goofier than the Fat Boy?s Institute (FBI).
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fire fighting gear includes Self Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA), which provides compressed air to the user.

    Oxygen is administered to certain medical patients by EMS providers.

    Neal
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The show is a sham. NCIS clowns would not even be let off base. The stuff they do and the places the go is ridiculous you would think they are a hit team for the CIA.


    The current Protective Mask is the M50. Its been the one used by US Servicemen since 2009 but there are still M40's out there.

    The M50 2009-
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    The older M40 1998-2009
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    The even older M17
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    I used the M17 and M40 but retired before the M50 came out.
    RLTW

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    drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,533 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Artistic license, you are going to need one.[}:)][:p]

    Somehow I always notice the skid marks on the road where they practiced then botched the first two takes. I usually see the piece of telephone pole roll away after they fire it out the back floor to make the car launch and roll over.

    But hey, this is nothing new, remember Roy's six shooter that fired 18 times before a re-load?


    I always note the full length skip plate on the sedan that jumps or does a barrel roll.
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    Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 31,683 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't help but remember that mess in bootcamp. The rubber mask that stunk worse than the gas they were about to make us suffer through.....barely being able to breathe through it.....having to take it off.....being almost impressed by the amount of mucus that your own body can produce almost instantly.


    Going outside where the small amount of light you could see seemed way too bright and when you could finally see you wished you couldn't because of all the snot streaming from everyone's face.
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I know you think you know but there is no way to be certain without trying it. If you have a mask and a ball cap I think I have an old can of surplus mustard gas that I can send you but you really need to video tape it.[:)][:)][:0][:0][:0]



    I own several high end West German Military Tactical masks. Canister comes out the left cheek, allowing a good cheek weld on the right hand side, when using a rifle. (Yes, Little things matter.)

    While I do not have any Mustard Gas, I do know how to fabricate it, should the need arise.

    Knowing that a backwards baseball cap would inhibit a good seal, I would not be so dumb as to utilize such an idiotic maneuver.



    As always - your Pal,


    -Ken-


    Just mixing two common household cleaners will produce a rather deadly gas.

    I can say for a fact the gas mask I wore in the Marines protected me from this.[:D] And the Head was sparkling clean.[;)]
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,748 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ricci Wright
    I had an author pay me $200.00 once to spend an hour answering her questions about firearms and tactics for a book she was writing.


    You sure you didn't pay her 200 for an hour of tactics?[:o)]
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    BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,363 ******
    edited November -1
    TV shows have long been full of BS with their feeble attempts to recreate fast moving action stunts that are so far from reality!

    Remember watching the old "A" Team with George Peppard and Mr.T. So many explosions and NEVER anyone getting blown up!! [:0]

    Quite a few phone poles and power lines visable in many old westerns that were supposed to predate these modern conveniences!

    I have learned to take movie and TV watching for the entertainment value. If I didn't do this I would go nuts!!

    Don't get me started with all of the wrong guns used in various epic time frame shows and movies!! Those are the hardest for me to turn a blind eye upon![xx(][:I]
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    He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 50,951 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    Movies always have screwups.

    Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, Indiana Jones cuts open shotgun shells and throws the lead pellets on the floor .. and they move/attach to the side of a box with a 'magnetic force' inside.
    Lead is not attracted to a magnet as it's a dia-magnetic material, like wood or glass. And in the time period of movie, steel shot was not made.

    Far to many more to even mention.


    Like Harrison Ford still active at 400 years old?
    [:D]
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    Wild TurkeyWild Turkey Member Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody else get elbowed for giggling/laughing during "Twister"?

    Talk about stupid Hollywood stuff[;)]
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    ChrisStreettChrisStreett Member Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still have a couple M17's and, I think a 40 somewhere at the house. Ya gotta be careful what you expose yourself to with some of the older ones lest ya get a surprise of the worst kind when you find out they aren't rated for chemical: XYZ. If you're working in a CS environment eventually you can learn to discard the damn mask depending on the concentration.
    (A nice deep whiff of CS is a great way to clear out yer head if you have a bad cold.)
    "...dying ain't much of a living boy"-Josey Wales
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    fugawefugawe Member Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where to start?
    I guess my favorite is 'One Million B.C.' with Raquel Welch.
    In one scene you can clearly see a jet contrail in the sky.
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    BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,363 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fugawe
    Where to start?
    I guess my favorite is 'One Million B.C.' with Raquel Welch.
    In one scene you can clearly see a jet contrail in the sky.



    That contrail was made by a Pterodactyl [:D][:D][:o)]
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,748 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fugawe
    Where to start?
    I guess my favorite is 'One Million B.C.' with Raquel Welch.
    In one scene you can clearly see a jet contrail in the sky.



    You were watching the sky?/ good lord man, that was a hot movie, I was watching the CON TAIL the whole time.
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    ArbyArby Member Posts: 668
    edited November -1
    I don't often react to film flubs but one that always got my goat was in old western movie shoot 'em ups where the actor doing the shooting points the barrel up and then flips it down to shoot...like he is throwing the bullet at the target.

    Also in the chase scenes on horseback the actors sometimes look like they are on a merry-go-round... up and down, up and down....

    None of the TV series are a reality thing since to is never going to be possible to solve a complex crime in an hour or less...I just accept it for what it is...Entertainment.

    The biggest wth is the reality show "Naked and Afraid" that has got to the dumbest one of the lot.
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    hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,179 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ken with all the tacos you eat I doubted you needed a gas mask, figured you and the dog were immune by now........
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    218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    I don`t know of one of those cop shows where they aren`t always saying a gun is "registered to", or "unregistered firearm". I think it`s propaganda, and the majority of people who watch these shows have heard this so much they believe registration is everywhere.
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