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Guns and Kids

4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
Dont you get sick and tired of hearing about this crap. Lock your guns up so your children won't find them and cant play with them! What ever happened to teaching your children to mind? I was raised in a house full of guns, some of which were kept loaded. We were taught from a very early age what a gun was for and what it could do. We also knew right from wrong and that if we did something that my dad or mom didn't approve of we would get our rear ends blistered. We understood also that we were being given a certain amount of trust and that if we broke that trust it would be gone forever. I have three kids, they are 9, 10 and 13 and they are taught to leave my things alone and they are not allowed to handle any gun without either my presence or permission. If someone wants to put their guns in a safe to keep them away from their children that is fine with me, but I will raise my children to do as I say and teach them correctly so that I don't need to hide things from them.

When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GC I could have not said it better,there are going to be those unfortunate children who wish to commit harm to their selves,even others and thats beyond the parents control.Its like taking the Sword display down from over the fireplace,or getting rid of Tylenol or other Medications.They will always be some way to commit harm,or inflict injury and there always will be.


    Best!!

    Rugster
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  • pigeoncreek1pigeoncreek1 Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4G&C,

    Sadly,people like you are in the minority anymore. It's easier for parents to just lock the guns up than to discipline their children properly. The parents think they are doing their kids a favor by keeping the guns locked up, all they are doing is keeping them ignorant to the respect of firearms that we should all have. My dad never locked up all of his guns. I was taught not to touch them without him around, or face the penalty of an * whoopin or worse.

    Gun control is hitting your target
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's understandable the frustration of living in a society with rules around every corner. Times have changed and unfortunately it's not the same as when we were kids. While you may feel bullied into storing your guns by a bunch of well meaning busy bodies, there are some harsh realities to consider.

    Laws have been enacted in a majority of states where the homeowner is now liable for criminal acts if someone is injured or killed with one of your firearms. Living in a society that thinks all problems can be solved in court makes you a prime target for a law suit. If you have any assets at all, (home, business, toys, savings) you're taking a big chance by leaving guns out that could get in the wrong hands. While your children may have a good understanding from ol' dad, their friends who drop in may not. Only need to look at all the people connected with the firearms use in the Columbine incident to know how far the blame game will go.

    Locking up firearms is a prudent and precautionary measure. Sad, but the old days are gone forever.....
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting views, and I concur with your thoughts 4GC. I dont have ANY problem with my children either. I also dont have a problem with children that may come over, as its simple how things work in my home. If I dont know the children and their parents, they are not coming over, period. Notice I said and their parents. No exceptions. I will not have any problems with this simple rule I use. I tend to associate only with people who feel as I do about guns, at least well enough to come to the house. I may be limiting my social circle in some areas of the country, but not where I live, and I dont really care to associate with people that dont like guns, as in essence they wont like me. If, for example idsman had children, they would be able to come play at my house, because I feel like I know him pretty well, we have met and shot together, and I know his children would be responsible with guns. I may not KNOW him, but I know ENOUGH about him. Isnt it funny how simple problems arent a problem when you go about it the way people use to way back when. My parent raised us the same way as I raise mine, and it STILL works well. Now, I do want a safe, but not to protect the guns from my children or vice versa, but to protect my guns from fire and thieves. Dont tell the wife...I'm getting one as soon as we move, ssshhhhh.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    The only reason that things are different today than when I was a child is that many parents fail their own children by not instilling a sence of responsibility in them and setting forth guidelines and basic principles of good and honest behavior. They allow their children to make "mistakes" and not suffer any consequences. The bible says, "Spare the rod and spoil the child". People like the famous Dr. Spock inform us how diciplining a child scars them for life but he fails to mention the fact that his very own son took his own life. My children are responsible for any of their friends they bring into my home and they know that if their friends dont follow the rules of my home they will not be allowed to return, my child will be punished and their friendship will end. Locking up firearms is a smokescreen developed by the anti gun lobby to give the law the ability to search and seize property from the civilian population for failure to comply with their "illegal" law. They say its for safety, but in fact it is a foot in the door that will allow home inspections and added regulation. How long do you think it will be before your "majority of states" decide that the safe you now own is inadequate, then you will be forced to either meet the governments safe standards and buy a safe that is more expensive than you can afford or store your weapons with someone with the capability to do so. Once they have every home disarmed they will close the loop forever by confiscation. Ill fight for my right to keep and bear arms and die I suppose to keep it from being infringed upon. Rembrant it sounds to me as though you will probably be the type to hand your weapons over and allow your children and grandchildren to become slaves to the government without a fight. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Goooooooooooood Sheeeeeeeeeeeep ALL sheep get slaughtered. PC is killing this country, I incourage you resist, I know I will... Good luck...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....




    Edited by - 4GodandCountry on 07/26/2002 11:29:20
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  • pigeoncreek1pigeoncreek1 Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is one problem with those "well meaning busy bodies" that view guns as a poison. Their lobbying projects the wrong impression of keeping and owning firearms to upcoming generations. Did they come out with a beer bottle lock yet? How about a refrigerator lock? They should because I'll bet more young people are killed by getting drunk and driving under age than accedental shootings!

    If were not careful, we will be raising the next generation of the anti-gun clan!

    Gun control is hitting your target
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    4G&C,
    I'm not handing anything over, just protecting my property and assets in a society full of litigious sharks. I don't leave my car unlocked and keys in the ignition for the same reason. Not sure I subscribe to the notion that doing so is the next step in confiscation....it would seem registration would be the next logical step, of which I won't participate. Appreciate your thoughts.

    Edited by - Rembrandt on 07/26/2002 12:02:01
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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    I look at my house as a giant safe, I keep it locked as well.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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  • dhdh Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guess I was raised in the same manner as most of you.My parents taught us 1st not to go in their bedroom,nothing in there belongs to my sister or me.All guns are locked up except the home defense weapons,these are in the bedroom.I remember the 1st thing my dad taught me about a gun in the house for protection,count heads first,then determine if there is one too many when you are wakened in the middle of the night.
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Respect and discipline is what the older generations were brought up on. I respected the fact that if I touched one of the guns in the chimney corner without permission from Pop that he would discipline me not by a "time out" but by a time out by the wood shed with a hickory switch. I can't thank my parents enough for giving me a red rearend instead of a "time out" when it came to being disciplined.

    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.
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