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History Lesson

nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
edited February 2002 in General Discussion
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia< /FONT> established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

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Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was e xpended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US eve ning news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.


The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS20OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment! If you are too, please forward.

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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    What do we learn from history.
    History Repeats:

    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt
    should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and
    controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest
    Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
    - Cicero - 55 BC
    Evidently nothing...
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Subject: History Lesson



    History Lesson

    Division of the human family into two distinct political groups began some
    12,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic
    hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains in the summer and
    would go to the beach and live on fish and lobster in winter.

    The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer
    and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the
    beer.

    These two events were the foundation of modern civilization and together
    were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
    Liberals and Conservatives.

    Once beer was discovered it required grain and that was the beginning of
    Agriculture, neither the glass bottle, nor the aluminum can were invented
    yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them
    to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

    Some men split their days tracking and killing animals to barbecue at
    night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is
    known as" the Conservative movement." Other men who were weaker and less
    skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for
    the nightly barbecue and doing the sewing, fetching and hairdressing. This
    was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

    Some of these Liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became
    known as "girlymen." Some noteworthy Liberal achievements include the
    domestication of cats, the trade union, the invention of group therapy and
    group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide
    themeat and beer that Conservatives provided.

    Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
    powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the
    *.

    Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer
    white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef
    well done. Sushi, tofu and French food are standard liberal fare.

    Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have
    higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal
    injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists
    are Liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule in baseball
    because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.

    Conservatives drink domestic beer and eat red meat and potatoes.
    Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction
    workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers,
    athletes and generally anyone who works productively outside government.

    Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to
    workfor a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern"
    the producers and decide what to do with production.

    Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is
    why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming
    to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a
    business of trying to get more for nothing.

    And here ends today's lesson in world history [:D] [8D]





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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization, and together, were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

    1. Liberals
    2. Conservatives.

    Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.

    That's how villages were formed.

    Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

    Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the
    Liberal movement.

    Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men or wussies. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

    Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant.

    Liberals are symbolized by the *.

    A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the midpalate by peach flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerality on the finish; or Perrier bottled water. They eat raw fish but dislike beef. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

    Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

    Conservatives drink Sam Adams, Harpoon IPA or Yuengling Lager. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.

    Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

    Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

    Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to tick them off.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    NOW THIS IS A REAL EDUCATION

    Where did "piss poor" come from ?

    They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot

    And then once it was full it was taken and sold to the tannery...

    if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor".

    But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot...

    They "didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low.

    The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature

    Isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

    Here are some facts about the 1500s

    Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,

    And they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell,

    Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.

    The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,

    Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children.

    Last of all the babies.

    By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.

    Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

    Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.

    It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals

    (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

    When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.

    Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."

    There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.

    This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings

    Could mess up your nice clean bed.

    Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.

    That's how canopy beds came into existence.

    The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.

    Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery

    In the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing.

    As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door,

    It would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.

    Hence: a thresh hold.

    (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

    In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.

    Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables

    And did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers

    In the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.

    Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.

    Hence the rhyme:

    "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old".

    Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.

    When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.

    It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon."

    They would cut off a little to share with guests

    And would all sit around and chew the fat.

    Those with money had plates made of pewter.

    Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.

    This happened most often with tomatoes,

    so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

    Bread was divided according to status.

    Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,

    and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky.

    The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.

    Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.

    They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around

    and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

    Hence the custom; "of holding a wake".

    England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.

    So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.

    When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.

    So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be,

    "saved by the bell" or was "considered a dead ringer".

    And that's the truth.

    Now, whoever said History was boring!!!

    So get out there and educate someone! ~~~

    "Smile",

    it gives your face something to do!
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Some of you might not know it but the Mexican people love mayonnaise.

    Once it was introduced to them by the Europeans, they went nuts for it and ordered it by the shipload.

    One year, a fleet of boats, all loaded with mayonnaise, sailed from Europe to Mexico but just as the fleet was reaching the coast, it was hit with a terrific hurricane.

    All the ships were lost.

    To this day, the Mexicans acknowledge that tragic loss by calling today:


    Cinco de Mayo
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    In George Washington's days, there were no cameras. One's image was either sculpted or painted. Some paintings of George Washington showed him standing behind a desk with one arm behind his back while others showed both legs and both arms. Prices charged by painters were not based on how many people were to be painted, but by how many limbs were to be painted. Arms and legs are "limbs"; therefore, painting them would cost the buyer more. Hence the expression, "Okay, but it'll cost you an arm and a leg." *********************************************As incredible as it sounds, men and women took baths only twice a year, (May and October!) Women always kept their hair covered while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs. The wigs couldn't be washed so to clean them, they could carve out a loaf of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The heat would make the wig big and fluffy; hence, the term, "big wig." Today we often use the term, "here comes the Big Wig," because someone appears to be, or is, powerful and wealthy. ********************************************* In the late 1700's, many houses consisted of a large room with only one chair. Commonly, a long wide board was folded down from the wall and used for dining. The "head of the household" always sat in the chair while everyone else ate sitting on the floor. Once in a while an invited guest (who was almost always a man) would be offered to sit in this chair during a meal. To sit in the chair meant you were important and in charge. Sitting in the chair, one was called the "chair man." Today in business we use the expression/title, "Chairman." *********************************************Needless to say, personal hygiene left much room for improvement. As a result, many women and men had developed acne scars by adulthood. The women would spread bee's wax over their * skin to smooth out their complexions. When they were speaking to each other, if a woman began to stare at another woman's face she was told, "mind your own bee's wax." Should the woman smile, the wax would crack; hence the term, "crack a smile." Also, when they sat too close to the fire, the wax would melt and, therefore, the expression, "losing face." *********************************************Ladies wore corsets which would lace up in the front. A tightly tied lace was worn by a proper and dignified lady as in, "straight-laced." ********************************************* Common entertainment included playing cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards but only applicable to the "ace of spades." To avoid paying the tax, people would purchase 51 cards instead. Yet, since most games require 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they weren't "playing with a full deck." *********************************************Early politicians required feedback from the public to determine what was considered important to the people. Since there were no telephones, TV's or radios, the politicians sent their assistants to local taverns, pubs and bars who were told to, "go sip some ale," and listen to people's conversations and political concerns. Many assistants were dispatched at different times. "You go sip here" and "you go sip there." The two words "go sip" were eventually combined when referring to the local opinion and thus, we have the term "gossip." *********************************************At local taverns, pubs and bars, people drank from pint and quart sized containers. A bar maid's job was to keep an eye on the customers and keep the drinks coming. She had to pay close attention and remember who was drinking in "pints" and who was drinking in "quarts." Hence the term, "minding your "P's and Q's."
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  • jetjet Member Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the early days of bicycles biult for two, one rider would inverably have a slower cadence than the other and would say "slow down you're pulling my leg"
  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554
    edited November -1
    Real Interesting Nunn!
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    During the time when people only had yearly, or twice yearly baths, the head of the family went first, and the rest went in the same tub, in descending order of age, hence the expression: "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't buy it. For one instance bars were for "Men Only". Women sat in the back room. The reasons being, a woman should not be involved in a mans business and down where there are now foot rails there used to be a shallow water trough so a man could take a Whizz without leaving the bar. You know how fast beer runs trough you. This is true I know a Bar in Lancaster, Pa that stills has a non-functional trough, it also has catacombs and tunnels used for the "Under Ground Railroad" during Slavery.Bars also didn't have barstools only tables and chairs.
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Nunn, nice reprint of an 'urban legend', unfortunately, none of them are true.
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  • tidemantideman Member Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Relax, guys. This isn't a test! Thanks, Nunn. I enjoyed it.Tideman
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nunn,You said it I beleve it.How many of you know were the term (Gillegen's Hitch)came from? NO it had nothing to do with the T.V. show.
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Wild Bill Hickoch was playing poker in a saloon when he was shot in the back of the head and fell across the table dead. In his hand he had two aces and two eights- thus aces over eights is called the "Deadmans Hand"!***************************************** Pigs were sold in a bag called a "polk" and you couldn't see what you getting until you were home- thus the term-"pig in a polk"!****************************************** "TO the hilt" comes from the knife. The broad part of the blade next to the handle is called the "hilt". If you stabbed something all the way- you would take it "to the hilt"!******************************************* Roman workers were paid in salt in an amount to their weight- Thus the term- "your worth your salt"!******************************************* "Thats all I got for now!
  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    daddo, try poke
  • jetjet Member Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    his name was jack mccall the other card was a 9
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Thank you Rosie- yes it's "poke". And Yes--McCall was the real name. Sometimes-early in the A.M., my spelling stinks because I'm usually brain dead till noon. (And sometimes thereafter).
  • bwabwa Member Posts: 224 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would imagine many of you know the origin of the expression, "...the whole nine yards"
  • bwabwa Member Posts: 224 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would imagine many of you know the origin of the expression, "...the whole nine yards"; as in, for example: "How much of that junk in the garage did you take to the landfill""I took the old tools, flower pots, newspapers -the whole nine yards."
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I've heard 2 or 3 differant ones on this one, but the one I remember is- * Cloth material came in a roll that equaled nine yards, if you used all of it- you used "the whole nine yards". **************************************** A bakers dozen (13). During Colonial times the baker would make 13 loafs of bread in case (the required was 12 loaves) one was bad or was lost, thus covering herself/hiself. It was a serious offense to be short a loaf.*Got this from Williamsburg Virginia historic society.
  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The whole nine yards." During WWII the wing guns in fighter planes took a 27' (ie 9 yds.) long belt of ammo for each gun. If the pilot brought the plane back with all his ammo gone, he was said to have given 'em "the whole nine yards".Mudge the historian
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Someone's pulling my leg (like in this thread) came from when someone improperly pulled another man's boot off. If you buy that one,I can dream up some more.I believe the whole 29 yards came from WW1.
  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have heard several renditions of the "whole nine yards" thing. One was for the machine guns, as noted. Another had to do with concrete, as the trucks with the spinning holder on the back will hold nine cubic yards, but usually carry eight. When they are loaded with nine, it is "the whole nine yards". I have also heard it is in reference to a monk's outfit, which requires...nine yards of fabric to make. And of course one must be quite devoted to be a monk, which supports the concept of..."the whole nine yards".
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