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WalMart's Ammo
Captplaid
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We now have a new WalMart Superstore.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
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It kept jamming when feeding the next round into the barrel. I tried any and all ammo brands I could find. Same results. I found the problem and it works great now.
Anyway, I bough a big box of Federal's to try them. Then they sat on the shelf. Last Sunday we went into the pasture to shoot. I chose the Federals instead of the Remington's I ussually shoot. The quality of the Federals shocked me. Some had more powder than others. Some Zinged out of the gun and others puked out. I also had an occassional problem with the ligher rounds. The used casing was sometimes jamming. I know the gun is not clean, but it has less than 100 rounds through it since it was well cleaned.
I suspect the Federals are not that good of quality and were causing troubles. I have not cleaned the gun or oiled the reciever yet. I am tempted to go out with the box of Remingtons and see how it shoots first.
How many rounds would I have to reload before I get a payback on my investment?
I have been told it is a lot cheaper, but I have suspected I do not shoot enough to make it economical.
What is the initial investment in reloading?
How many rounds would I have to reload before I get a payback on my investment?
I have been told it is a lot cheaper, but I have suspected I do not shoot enough to make it economical.
Payback time will depend on your up-front cost (varies from under $100 to over $600 depending on what equipment you start with), and the retail price of what your reloading. 9mm will take quite a long time, but if your loading for a 500NE you can pay for a basic single stage setup within 100 rounds (when factory ammo runs $20 each, and reloads are about $2 each........)
When [:(!]Walmart[:(!] becomes the only place to shop watch how LOW those everyday prices are[}:)]
And thus the circle will start again. There is a natural cycle. IF Wal-Mart raises their prices there will be upstarts who compete with them. This is natural and has been happening for years. Just imagine how high prices would be in so many comsumer goods without competition.
What is the initial investment in reloading?
How many rounds would I have to reload before I get a payback on my investment?
I have been told it is a lot cheaper, but I have suspected I do not shoot enough to make it economical.
as stated depends on what you want, i have a Dillon 550 w/case feed, and even with 9mm you can make up the difference in a few thousand rounds, because you cannot compare the ammo you will make with 10buck a box wally world ammo, you can compare it to 20 dollar a box of 20 match grade ammo, comparing it to cheap plinking ammo is not even fair
DSM
I do not walk in a walmart, much less buy something from them.
DSM
that's fine, more cheap stuff for the rest of us!![}:)][:p][:D][:)][}:)][;)]
I do not walk in a walmart, much less buy something from them.
DSM
If your married, I bet your wife does.
Cheap, that being the key word. I could find a better word that begins with a C and ends with a P over cheap.
I'm married. My wife rairly goes there. She goes there to buy our c*r*a*p. She would not spend more than $50 at wally in a month.
I would suggest going to http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/122 and looking up the video "boxmart".
DSM
I agree with Captplaid, the Federals are inconsistent in the bulk pack. They are better than the Remingtons, but from now on I am going to buy Winchester .22LR in the bulk pack.
Although the brass and copper stuff has gone up, the bulk pack shotgun shells seem to have stayed about the same. About $15 per 100 shells at Wally World. Again, I am going to stick with the Winchester bulk pack as they seem more consistent for a few cents more per 100.
-Wolf
I get 10% off on all my ammo purchases when I buy any caliber 1 case at a time (10 boxes); I usually walk in to place my order ahead of time with a 50% deposit. In return,they always happily give me 10% off because they don't have to take apart the cases & transfer individual boxes of ammo onto shelves.
Instead, they simply scan the case & hand the whole case over with 10% discount. I hope this tip helps everyone out. Think of it as buying a car, it never hurts to ask for a discount because the worst they can say is "no"..quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
We now have a new WalMart Superstore.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
Just got back from Wal-Mart. Got 100 rounds of 45 for $24 including tax. The prices haven't increased at the ones we shop at. Yet.
I was there last night and saw that price on .45 ammo.
I bought all 500 rounds that they had in stock at $24/100. And I will wait a couple days and see if they got more in. At that price it is right with ammoman so I couldn't resist.
I am still working on getting up to a 5000 round surplus on hand for my .45 and at that price I will get it done by christmas as long as it doesn't go up.
It helps to get to know the manager of the Sporting Goods Dept. in the WalMart you buy ammo. Reason being he/she has the authority to give quantity discounts.
I get 10% off on all my ammo purchases when I buy any caliber 1 case at a time (10 boxes); I usually walk in to place my order ahead of time with a 50% deposit. In return,they always happily give me 10% off because they don't have to take apart the cases & transfer individual boxes of ammo onto shelves.
Instead, they simply scan the case & hand the whole case over with 10% discount. I hope this tip helps everyone out. Think of it as buying a car, it never hurts to ask for a discount because the worst they can say is "no"..quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
We now have a new WalMart Superstore.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
Friggin wal mart I shop at wont even SELL me a boxed up case of shotgun shells!!!!! I have to buy each box individually. He kinda chuckled when I asked about 10% off for buying a case.[}:)][}:)]
Those meanies have a ruger red label with english stock in their inventory for TWO YEARS and refuse to come down on the price in order to sell it!!!!! I don't know if they still have it, but they would take it out of the case for awhile and put it back in, like they JUST got it in. GRRRRRRRRRR
quote:Originally posted by Sigdriver1
It helps to get to know the manager of the Sporting Goods Dept. in the WalMart you buy ammo. Reason being he/she has the authority to give quantity discounts.
I get 10% off on all my ammo purchases when I buy any caliber 1 case at a time (10 boxes); I usually walk in to place my order ahead of time with a 50% deposit. In return,they always happily give me 10% off because they don't have to take apart the cases & transfer individual boxes of ammo onto shelves.
Instead, they simply scan the case & hand the whole case over with 10% discount. I hope this tip helps everyone out. Think of it as buying a car, it never hurts to ask for a discount because the worst they can say is "no"..quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
We now have a new WalMart Superstore.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
Friggin wal mart I shop at wont even SELL me a boxed up case of shotgun shells!!!!! I have to buy each box individually. He kinda chuckled when I asked about 10% off for buying a case.[}:)][}:)]
Those meanies have a ruger red label with english stock in their inventory for TWO YEARS and refuse to come down on the price in order to sell it!!!!! I don't know if they still have it, but they would take it out of the case for awhile and put it back in, like they JUST got it in. GRRRRRRRRRR
Need to start looking for a more friendly WalMart!! Some WalMart out here in Kali won't sell ammo, period.. So I made a phone call to H.Q. not long ago. I was told General Managers of each specific store are allowed to make the decision whether to carry ammo or not. Sounds like the manager you're dealing with is just a tight wad & doesn't realize the benefit of volume sales. Make a few calls & I hope you'll find someone more open minded. Good Luck.quote:Originally posted by rogue_rob
quote:Originally posted by Sigdriver1
It helps to get to know the manager of the Sporting Goods Dept. in the WalMart you buy ammo. Reason being he/she has the authority to give quantity discounts.
I get 10% off on all my ammo purchases when I buy any caliber 1 case at a time (10 boxes); I usually walk in to place my order ahead of time with a 50% deposit. In return,they always happily give me 10% off because they don't have to take apart the cases & transfer individual boxes of ammo onto shelves.
Instead, they simply scan the case & hand the whole case over with 10% discount. I hope this tip helps everyone out. Think of it as buying a car, it never hurts to ask for a discount because the worst they can say is "no"..quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
We now have a new WalMart Superstore.
Unfortunately, they quit their shotguns and rifles. Too bad, but I wasn't planning to buy one anyway. I did notice their ammo prices have increased. Some dramatically.
270 Remingtons use to be 11.95 now. They are 13.95 for 150 grain. 130 Grain is more! I think Farm & FLeet is cheaper now. They used to be one dollar more than Wal Mart.
130 grain Winchesters 17.95, I think. might be a buck more.
Here is the real shocker
$12.95 for Remington 223's 55 grain. WOW that looks expensive to me!
I think I can still get them for $5 and change at Farm & Fleet.
Wal Mart used to be the cheapest place for anything, but I am having doubts.
Friggin wal mart I shop at wont even SELL me a boxed up case of shotgun shells!!!!! I have to buy each box individually. He kinda chuckled when I asked about 10% off for buying a case.[}:)][}:)]
Those meanies have a ruger red label with english stock in their inventory for TWO YEARS and refuse to come down on the price in order to sell it!!!!! I don't know if they still have it, but they would take it out of the case for awhile and put it back in, like they JUST got it in. GRRRRRRRRRR
not worth my time, I'm not losing any sleep over a bunch of idiots.
OK now you got me on my next question. About a year ago I was working hard to get my Remington 241 .22LR working. It is basicly an older version of the Browning semi auto.
It kept jamming when feeding the next round into the barrel. I tried any and all ammo brands I could find. Same results. I found the problem and it works great now.
Anyway, I bough a big box of Federal's to try them. Then they sat on the shelf. Last Sunday we went into the pasture to shoot. I chose the Federals instead of the Remington's I ussually shoot. The quality of the Federals shocked me. Some had more powder than others. Some Zinged out of the gun and others puked out. I also had an occassional problem with the ligher rounds. The used casing was sometimes jamming. I know the gun is not clean, but it has less than 100 rounds through it since it was well cleaned.
I suspect the Federals are not that good of quality and were causing troubles. I have not cleaned the gun or oiled the reciever yet. I am tempted to go out with the box of Remingtons and see how it shoots first.
Call up federal you probably got a bad lot, they should do good by you I would think.
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
OK now you got me on my next question. About a year ago I was working hard to get my Remington 241 .22LR working. It is basicly an older version of the Browning semi auto.
It kept jamming when feeding the next round into the barrel. I tried any and all ammo brands I could find. Same results. I found the problem and it works great now.
Anyway, I bough a big box of Federal's to try them. Then they sat on the shelf. Last Sunday we went into the pasture to shoot. I chose the Federals instead of the Remington's I ussually shoot. The quality of the Federals shocked me. Some had more powder than others. Some Zinged out of the gun and others puked out. I also had an occassional problem with the ligher rounds. The used casing was sometimes jamming. I know the gun is not clean, but it has less than 100 rounds through it since it was well cleaned.
I suspect the Federals are not that good of quality and were causing troubles. I have not cleaned the gun or oiled the reciever yet. I am tempted to go out with the box of Remingtons and see how it shoots first.
Call up federal you probably got a bad lot, they should do good by you I would think.
I doubt it. I thought Federal's were always like that.[B)]
ammo prices are increasing across the board. raw material and metal prices have gone up for various reasons and the ammo makers' costs have increased, therefore, our costs increase. welcome to capitalism.
I can still get a box of 50 .38 special at Dick's for $9.99, $15.99 for the .357 Mag.
There's a Supercenter less than 4 blocks from my home, and I see no reason to spend like a drunken sailor at the Sportsmans Wharehouse a mile away.
Like it or not; the big bad box stores are here to stay.
Wonder why nobody picks on JC Penneys or Kmart; they get most of their merchandise the same bleening place that WM does-China.
Take your pick of WallyWorlds in ABQ! They all have guns & ammo, and last weekend I got a case of Federal Gold Medal 711s, 5 boxes of Winchester 38Supers with the silvertips, 2 boxes of NYCLAD .357s hidden behind all the other stuff, and made a layaway on a Savage 24 in .357/20ga. for less than $225.
There's a Supercenter less than 4 blocks from my home, and I see no reason to spend like a drunken sailor at the Sportsmans Wharehouse a mile away.
Like it or not; the big bad box stores are here to stay.
Wonder why nobody picks on JC Penneys or Kmart; they get most of their merchandise the same bleening place that WM does-China.
If I lived in ABQ I'd stock up on ammo at the lowest possible prices too. [:D][:p][}:)]
1. One pound of IMR 4350 $18.59. Using 50 grains per load, (NOTE: load is from stevespages.com is a medium load listed for IMR 4350 using a 150 grain bullet) this will net without any spillage or waste 140 loads. Boils down to powder cost for 140 loads is $0.13 per load.
2. Sierra GameKing bullets 150 grains is $21.29 per hundred or $0.21 each.
3. Primers I could not find indivdual boxes on Midway but the last time I bought them by the 100ctn they cost me $1.50 per hundred equalling to aprox $0.015 per primer.
4. Brass Remington Brass $6.30 per 20 rounds, $44.00 for 140 or $0.31 each.
So add up each one and it comes to $0.66 each or $13.20 for 20 rounds to reload using all new components and buying from Midway USA.
This cost will vary greatly depending on components, also you will reuse brass so that will save $$, different bullets may be more or less, different powders will be more or less depending on what you use.
Now add in roughly $250 for an RCBS beginners kit, $25 or so for a decent set of calipers and $25 for a set of dies and shell holder and the overhead gets kinda expensive. It is hard to reload rifle unless you are reloading not so common cartridges and save money. Start upgrading your reloading kit, get better at reloading and start working on match quality rounds and the cost goes up with different powders and bullets.
You can save $$ if you shop smart and buy in bulk but not enough that you will see the savings immediatly. Reloading is more a passion and always wanting the absolute best ammo you can get as well as not trusting factory ammo makers. I reload for every rifle I own and it gets expensive but I feel the ammo I make is far far better than I can buy prepackaged and I love doing it. Besides, spattering a groundhog 500 yards away or dropping a deer dead in it's tracks with ammo you made just makes the kill feel that much better.[:D]
That is a high price for Wal-Mart. They are often cheaper though.
I usually pay $10 for a 20 rd box of name brand .223.