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96 Harley

punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
Got a couple cool Bandanas for ya. send addy.

"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"

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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    Do you know Pirate (Oley Gunther)or Herbie (Micheal Clark). I used to hang around them a bit.
    Also do you ever get to Kerstings Cycle Shop? I also used to hang around with Russel Hendren. He runs the shop for Jim Kersting. And last time I saw him, He had the fastest harley in the wrold. A nitro burning sportster. But that was 15 years ago.
    Later TOOLS
  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    I spend a lot of time on the road and I have a qustion or two maybe you can answer for me. Why is it that most of the 'cruiser' or Harley drivers seem to be responsible and competent riders while the low-slung fart in a tin can rice burners seem to want to impress people with their total disregard for all traffic laws? Why do these people seem to drive with apparent impunity to the law?

    Every time one of these little rice burners cuts me off in traffic I mutter to myself "keep driving like hell, you'll get there".

    AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY
  • BushobiBushobi Member Posts: 107 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your right on there punchy...if you look at the profile and have a limited knowledge of aerodynamics..you will notice most operators of what we call CROTCH ROCKETS. are in a folded /semi/ horizontal position..this particular position exposes (somewhat) a particular oriface...this being exposed and the dynamic air flow to the rear causes what fireman call a sudden back draft..forcing a particular substance to reverse flow and stop in the cranium..thus the term..."S... for Brains."..that should explain it.
  • 96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Punchie,
    I was in Vail CO three years ago on my way to a motorcyle convention there. I noticed just like you described, these low slung riders going around me like bumble bees at light speed. They were passing on the left, right, between cars, and even on the berm closest to the concrete divider. It was even scarier because it was raining at the time. They must have a death wish or something. My only guess is that they feel they have to live up to the image of the racing bikes on Speed Vision. If they ever witness an up close and pesonal encounter with the asphalt, they'll get a new perspective on how to ride. Hope that helps. By he way Bushobi I think you got something there.
  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    Bushobi
    That has to be the best explanation that I have heard yet! ROFLMAO
  • snarlgardsnarlgard Member Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    LOVE IT BUSHOBI
    can i borrow it i promise to give you credit for it

    SMILE...MAKE EM WONDER WHAT YOUR UP TO
  • Robert PetersonRobert Peterson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its' called an Adrenaline rush. It shows we have HUGE BALLS.
  • BushobiBushobi Member Posts: 107 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    snarlgard..use away friend..im not a stickler on copyright..
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Could it be that WE Harley Riders, respect the law, respect our bikes, and respect our lives.

    The fact that we ride a Harley is impressive enough that we dont have to show our ignorance, and put on an IDIOT display of speed and wheelies.

    There are a lot of crotch rocket riders around here, and when they pull their Idiot displays of stupidness, all you hear from the people is "Look at that Idiot.

    But you get the OOOOHS and AAAAAHs from them when they see a good looking Harley

    "A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
  • Robert PetersonRobert Peterson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a fear factor. Some people are afraid to push the envelope to the edge. I have owned several different types of bikes. My first bike was in fact a Harley. I didn't like it. I prefer Jap. sport bikes. How many Harleys can hit 180 M.P.H. bone stock out of the box

    Look at some of the new product designs for Harley. Their Buell Line. They are half breed Jap. sport bike clones. They have upper,lower,tank,windscreen,and tailsection fairings. The only thing Harley about them is the V-Twin.

    All it comes down to is personal preference.
  • Robert PetersonRobert Peterson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a fear factor. Some people are afraid to push the envelope to the edge. I have owned several different types of bikes. My first bike was in fact a Harley. I didn't like it. I prefer Jap. sport bikes. How many Harleys can hit 180 M.P.H. bone stock out of the box

    Look at some of the new product designs for Harley. Their Buell Line. They are half breed Jap. sport bike clones. They have upper,lower,tank,windscreen,and tailsection fairings. The only thing Harley about them is the V-Twin.

    All it comes down to is personal preference.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    Look at some of the new product designs for Harley. Their Buell Line. They are half breed Jap. sport bike clones. They have upper,lower,tank,windscreen,and tailsection fairings. The only thing Harley about them is the V-Twin.

    Don't you mean to say just look at the Jap bikes. They are imitating harley so bad it is crazy. The Buell is all harley designed and built by Eric Buell a former HD employee. Harley did buy him out and not owns the company.

    I do really think the HD race bikes came first. If I am wrong get me a pic of a Jap race bike from the 20's 30's or 40's hell even the 50's. Good luck.



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  • 96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Personally I don't stick mine up in the air while I'm riding no matter what their size. I sit with them properly tucked between my thighs while seated in a comfortable position on a two wheeled Cadilac.
  • Robert PetersonRobert Peterson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not arguing who was here first. I'm arguing technology. Jap bikes are FAR more superior compared to Harleys. their power to weight ratio speaks for it's self, 380#'s 140 r/w hp. The Buell XB is an R1 ripoff. look at the nose & tailsection. I know they are all american built. I make parts for them. I just prefer sport bikes.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    IF I wanted to ride a sewing Machine , Id buy a singer.

    And where can you legaly ride on any street doing upwards of 140 mph

    "A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    The fact that any idiot 16 year-old kid, with enough greenbacks, can ride a 160 mph bike out of the showroom is one of the reasons we are all paying outrageous prices for vehicle and medical insurance.

    Hey, ride what you want, but keep your Ricky-Racer B.S. on the track. I also seriously doubt the stories I hear from many of the sport bike riders about the speeds they ride and their other antics. I believe there are some maniacs who actually ride on the edge, but there are a lot of wannabees who use the bike as a means to try to impress others with their tales of derring-do. And if I have to hear one more load of crap from somebody who claims to be popping a wheelie at 100 mph at the same time they're giving 500 Hells Angels the finger, I'm gonna barf.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

    Edited by - Lowrider on 08/07/2002 15:24:07
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    Robert, you say you prefer sport bikes. Why then are you even complaining about Harleys. They are not sport bikes.
    Harley is into the sport bike market in a very minor way with the Buell. The Buell is by no means the first Harley sport bike and it will probably not be the last.

    It is not Harleys fault it has dominated the motorcycle market in the US for most of the past 100 years. Look at the styling of 90% of the foriegn bikes on the market and I think you will agree that the rest of the manufactures are influenced by and copying Harley by God Davidson.



    I like to think the fact that I chose to ride American makes me just a wee bit more American and patriotic than the next guy. My choice and it makes me happy.

    moc.murofsmraerifeht.www



    Edited by - warpig883 on 08/07/2002 17:36:11
  • Robert PetersonRobert Peterson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not complaning about Harleys, I'm trying to defend Jap. sport bikes.

    Harley does dominate the road couch catagory. They are the most expensive cruisers around. As far as there quality, ever since the Evo. They are fine, I just don't like them.

    Harley's first design for a sport bike, I believe was a $40,000.00 VR1000. It was orange and black. It was not very track worthy. I believe as of 2000 or a little sooner they scrapped the R&D project and line all togeather. Not sure, I'll have to do more research. It might have been when they aquired Buell. Now they have poured monies into R&D for that line. I believe there is now only 3 models left to choose from.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    they had a cafe racer with all the fairings and the whole works in the 80's. I do not remember the designation. They had 4 valve heads with overhead valves on race bike in the 20'sor 30's.


    And don't forget the XR750 with the dual carbs.

    The Sportster was the 1st superbike. Even the history channel agrees with that:)

    I have had my share of jap bikes and had fun on them. Just for the record my Suzuki was a oil leaker:) But they do go fast. I had a Yamaha RD400 (two stroke) that would put 750's down. Also had a Kaw H3 500 triple (two stroke)

    moc.murofsmraerifeht.www
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    The cafe racer you refer to was only built for about three years in the eighties and was based on the 1000cc Sportster engine and frame. The model designation was "XLCR."

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Here's some pictures.

    http://www.xlcrclub.com/



    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    1977 Harley Davidson XR750

    The successor to the KR model, the XR750 dominated flat track racing from 1970 until the present. Producing 90 bhp @ 8,000 rpm, this model featured twin Mikuni carburetors and alloy cylinder heads. This bike was ridden by Grand National racer, Davey Durelle.




    Still racing












    These were also sold street legal for a year or two and I passed up the chance to buy one in '93

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Harley also made a street-legal XR-1000. An old friend of mine has one that he hasn't ridden in years. Just sits in the shop and has less than 5000 miles on it.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    dang it now ya got me started

    Nine time AMA National dirt track champion Scott Parker on his XR750 - San Jose mile-1998 factory race bike




    CURRENT Grand National Champion Carr aboard his Factory XR-750


    If you ever get lucky enought to see one of these races you will also see foriegn bikes in them. You just will not see them at the front of the pack. Honda and Yamaha both pumped a lot of money into this sport over the years to no avail. H-D has been setting the standard in this sport since the early 1900's. I would have to do some diggin but somewhere I have a list of every years champion and what they were riding. It is H-D for 50 out of the 60 years of the AMAdirt track racing???not sure of the number but that is close you get the idea anyway.



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