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Military rank for different services

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited December 2003 in General Discussion
Anyone know where I can find a chart or explaination on military ranks? Interested in what a Navy rank is equal to in the Army.

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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Navy is always 1 step lower than Army. [;)]



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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Navy= Airmen, Seamen, Firemen, constructionmen, is E3 or below. Technically it would be Seamen recruit E1, Seamen Apprentice E2, Seamen E3.

    Third Class Petty Officer is an E4

    Second Class P.O. is an E5

    First Class is an E6

    Chief Petty Officer is an E7

    Senior Chief is an E8

    Master Chief is an E9

    Where a Cpl. in the Army would just be refered to as Cpl. "Smith" a third class in the Navy would be refered to by rate. a boatswains mate is called a BM. so a third class BM would either be called petty officer Smith, or BM3 Smith. We do everything backwards of everyone else and I don't have any good reason why. If you need a chart send me your email address, and I'll try to emial the chart to you from work tom. if I can find it on the computer.

    R/

    Dave


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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    General = Admiral
    Lt. General = Vice Admiral
    Major General = Rear Admiral
    Brigadier General = Commodore (inactive)
    Colonel = Captain
    Lt. Colonel = Commander
    Major = Lt. Commander
    Captain = Lieutenant
    1st Lt = Lt JG
    2nd Lt = Ensign
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/rankchart/blenlistedrank.htm

    http://www.nps.navy.mil/Code22/milrank.htm

    On the CWO side of the house, there is now a CWO-5


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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I forgot to add that an officer is generally called "Sir" but DWS backed me up with the details.

    robsguns pointed out the CWO5, the Navy does not have the CWO5 yet, probably because it would take about 100 years to make CWO5. I know only one CWO3 and he's been in 28 years, he was an E8 before he went CWO. We also do not have a CWO1

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    Dave
    edited for the CWO stuff.

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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Don't forget the Rear Admiral (Lower Half=equivalent to a Brigadier General) and Rear Admiral (Upper Half=Major General).

    These are lots of fun in a Joint Command and you are trying to prepare seating arrangements! You end up calling for a promotion register to learn who outranks who.[}:)]



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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hairy: You're right. I wish they'd reinstate "commodore", though; a unique rank worthy of Meerschaum, monocle and bagpipes
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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am tempted to say that the Navy still does use the term commodore. It may not be an official rank but generally the C.O. of the base is refered to as the commedore, and I'm pretty sure I've been at sea when "the commedore" came aboard. This of course could be the old salty chiefs refering to any old salty officer I guess, so I could be wrong, but I think we even have a commodore parking spot at the base exchange and that was only built about two years ago.

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    Dave


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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Robs, Thanks for the links, that's what I was looking for.

    Have a number of "career" family members, some Army, some Navy....confusing to know who has passed the other in rank....some gentle ribbing about who salutes who (and who has the better football team)...

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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Commodore
    Is a Senior Captain usally a Squardon Commander.
    AN exception to that.
    My Commanding Officer @ FTG was a Senior Captain but had the title of Commodore.

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  • Ruger22Ruger22 Member Posts: 385 ✭
    edited November -1
    Starfleet command.

    1. Fleet admiral
    2. admiral
    3. captain
    4. commander
    5. lt.commander
    6. leuitenant
    7. ensign.



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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That was a very interesting chart Ryan. Warrant officer seems like the ideal military rank since it appears to be a technical rating of some sort so I assume these officers don't actually take command of troops other than those personel assigned to their departmental specialty...and people have to call them sir and salute. Question: in the enlisted ratings there are two different sub divisions of sergeants in the E-8 and E-9. Using the Marines as an example, what are the differences between a 1st sergeant and a master sergeant and what are the differences between a sergent major and a master gunnery sergeant? There must be some reason for this division but I'm guessing each of them earn the same pay and have identical insignia. As a guy who never spent a day in the military I think this is my chance to find out the real story!

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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mark: First Sergeants and Sergeants Major are typically administrative positions; Master Sergeants and Master Gunnery Sergeants are typically senior NCOs in line or technical MOS's.
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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mark Marines like you asked do use a slightly different insignia, one has a diamond in the center (Master SGT and SGT MJG) the other has crossed rifles in the center (1ST SGT and Master Gunnery SGT) I could be backwards on which gets the diamond and which gets the crossed rifles, I'm sure one of our Marines on the board will correct me if I'm wrong. The more I look at it the more I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. My first command was 1/2 Navy 1/2 Marine but that was a while ago

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    Dave


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  • chunkstylechunkstyle Member Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the Marines, First Sergeants and Sergeants Major are command positions, the top enlisted people in their organizations. (company-level for 1SGTs, battalion or higher for SGTMs.) If you have the same pay grade, but not the title, then you are likely holding a technician's or administrator's MOS. The command ranks are the ones with the diamond device (called a "lozenge") in the chevrons.

    As far as the Army goes, E-9s don't gain a 4th rocker like Marines. The Sergeants Major there are called "Command" Sergeants Major, and what marines call "Master Gunnery Sergeants" they call plain Sergeants Major. Got me if I can remember what devices the Army sports, but a good rule to follow is, if a guy with a lotta rockers is telling you to do something, you'd better do it!

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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dave: I think you may have it backward. First Sergeant has the diamond and Sergeant Msjor has the star; Master Sergeant has crossed rifles and Master Gunnery Sergeant has bursting bomb.
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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DWS- You're right, my roommate was in the marines (met him in my first command) I talked to him on the phone and he said just what you did. Us d**n sailors' always screwin' up the details...

    R/

    Dave


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  • Jungle JimJungle Jim Member Posts: 264 ✭
    edited November -1
    Warrant officer is the best job in the Army.

    In the old days, you were appointed --- and couldn't command;
    these days you are commissioned a warrant and can command.

    Even in the old days you were respected by both officer and enlisted and still are. There are a few W-5's out there, and those that are even get their own parking space at the PX along with the CG!

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  • ManofactionManofaction Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dances with sheep has it nailed down. I was in the corp for only five years but I have taken A** chewings from some of the higher enlisted a few times.[}:)]
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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jim: Good to see you around. How's that Pantera bad boy???

    Dave: I'm old Corps; when I first entered the service (1962), we wore brown shoes and there were still some guys wearing stripes without crossed rifles (an E5 back then was a staff sergeant).
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mark, I was in bed early, havent scanned the posts well yet, but I think your question has already been answered correctly. Talk later.

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