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PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
Augustine Cebeda of the Brown Berets de Aztlan as he spoke on Channel 2 News: "Mexicans have every right to be here. This land was stolen from us." (KCBS TV)
Weren't Indians the native Americans?[This message has been edited by Pelican (edited 12-15-2001).]
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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mayby he's talking about Kali, Hell, my vote says give it back to em-Ralph
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  • luger01luger01 Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nah. People from asia are the first recorded peoples here (search for Kennewick man - 9000 years old, discovered along teh Columbia River in WA state). The Indians/Native Americans came along after that. Heck, even they refer to the Anasazi here before them and have no idea who the Anasazi were.
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  • edharoldedharold Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Who ever they are, they stole it from somebody, we (our ancestors) stole it from them. Now we steal it from each other. That's the history of mankind.
    "They that would give up liberty to obtain safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"Benj. Franklin, 1759
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pelican......one of my pet peeves. Calling the American Indian called a "native American" that is. They are no more "native" than I am. They came over here from Asia when the continents were connected at Siberia and Alaska. If you were born in the USA, you're a "native American". I can trace my mother's family to their arrival in America in 1649. That doesn't make me any more a "native" than someone who was born here last year.Sorry, I ramble on. Like I said, one of my pet peeves.Mudge the "native"
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Native American claim is mute. Mudge is right, born here makes you 'native', period.Now as to the claim they have the right to be here because they had this land stolen from them? That p!$$es me off. The ones who have a right to be here are the ones who were born here naturally, by another American citizen. An American citizen can be a naturalized citizen, one who has earned his or her citizenship. So your mother having scrambling across the border and giving birth does not qualify you as a natural born citizen, just to make that clear. And I dont think that anyone in the last century +, has stolen a thing from anyone, meaning that no Mexican alive has had crap stolen from them, therefore they have the right to *. Oh man!!!! I know Mexicans that serve in the Corps, they arent even citizens, but they serve proudly, they arent even given a 'gimme' citizenship for what they do, have done, or may be asked to do, die! So that prick that thinks hes had something stolen from him needs to reevaluate exactly what the word citizenship means, and realize that he is a citizen of Mexico. If he wants to be a citizen of the U.S. he can do what everyone else does and apply for it, then he can have the right to complain about America, and maybe bring up the stolen property issue with his Congressman/woman, and see where that gets him.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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