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Daley says gun-rights group will be liable (IL)
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Daley says gun-rights group will be liable
Mayor fires back after organization says it will distribute handguns to Chicagoans.
BY MATT DAIGLE MEDILL NEWS SERVICE
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002
CHICAGO -- Firing a warning shot Wednesday at the gun-rights group Concealed Carry Inc., Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said the city will hold the group responsible for any deaths caused by handguns the organization wants to distribute.
"If you can just give guns out and someone goes out, injures or kills somebody, you better have a good lawyer because they're going to come right after you," Daley said at a news conference at the Fulton Carroll Center, 2023 W. Carroll Ave. "And you better believe the corporation counsel and every lawyer in Chicago will go after them, and the victim's family will go after them, too."
When asked if the city itself would sue on behalf of the victims, Daley replied, "Oh, sure we would."
Daley's words follow last week's announcement that the Oak Brook-based group will give away one gun a month to a Chicago resident beginning April 30.
The promotion, made through the organization's Web site, offers a .32-caliber handgun "designed for maximum concealability" to all Chicago residents older than 21 who e-mail the group detailing why they deserve the gun. The applicant must also pass several other requirements to be eligible. Currently, Illinois law states that a person must hold a valid Firearms Owners' Identification card to carry an unloaded, concealed weapon.
But the law also states the weapon should be in a carrying case.
Concealed Carry attracted attention last summer for encouraging people to attend the annual Taste of Chicago festivities with handguns concealed in fanny packs, claiming that constituted a carrying case.
Daley warned of the consequences of the group's actions.
"You start giving guns out in Oak Brook and DuPage County, you're going to have a lot of people killed out there," Daley said. "I hope that the mayor and the police chief and the county sheriff realize that. And if someone takes a gun and shoots somebody, that organization is liable."
John Birch, president of Concealed Carry, was quoted Monday in published
reports saying he would welcome a legal challenge, if for no other reason than to increase public awareness of the issues concerning concealed firearms.
"I want them to sue me," Birch said. "The sooner we get this in court, the better."
Tom Mannard, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, labeled Birch's attitude as "complete cowardice."
"They're just using a Chicago person as a pawn to get what they want," Mannard said. "If they want someone to get busted so they can defend him in court, why doesn't [Birch] come to the city and wave around a handgun himself?"
Mannard said his organization was looking into the legal issues surrounding liability, but that the mayor was on the right track.
"If there is the possibility of prosecution, then yes, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," Mannard said. "But if in fact someone is killed, and legally Birch's group is not liable, the blood is still on their hands."
http://www.thetimesonline.com/index.pl/article?id=17236370
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Mayor fires back after organization says it will distribute handguns to Chicagoans.
BY MATT DAIGLE MEDILL NEWS SERVICE
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002
CHICAGO -- Firing a warning shot Wednesday at the gun-rights group Concealed Carry Inc., Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said the city will hold the group responsible for any deaths caused by handguns the organization wants to distribute.
"If you can just give guns out and someone goes out, injures or kills somebody, you better have a good lawyer because they're going to come right after you," Daley said at a news conference at the Fulton Carroll Center, 2023 W. Carroll Ave. "And you better believe the corporation counsel and every lawyer in Chicago will go after them, and the victim's family will go after them, too."
When asked if the city itself would sue on behalf of the victims, Daley replied, "Oh, sure we would."
Daley's words follow last week's announcement that the Oak Brook-based group will give away one gun a month to a Chicago resident beginning April 30.
The promotion, made through the organization's Web site, offers a .32-caliber handgun "designed for maximum concealability" to all Chicago residents older than 21 who e-mail the group detailing why they deserve the gun. The applicant must also pass several other requirements to be eligible. Currently, Illinois law states that a person must hold a valid Firearms Owners' Identification card to carry an unloaded, concealed weapon.
But the law also states the weapon should be in a carrying case.
Concealed Carry attracted attention last summer for encouraging people to attend the annual Taste of Chicago festivities with handguns concealed in fanny packs, claiming that constituted a carrying case.
Daley warned of the consequences of the group's actions.
"You start giving guns out in Oak Brook and DuPage County, you're going to have a lot of people killed out there," Daley said. "I hope that the mayor and the police chief and the county sheriff realize that. And if someone takes a gun and shoots somebody, that organization is liable."
John Birch, president of Concealed Carry, was quoted Monday in published
reports saying he would welcome a legal challenge, if for no other reason than to increase public awareness of the issues concerning concealed firearms.
"I want them to sue me," Birch said. "The sooner we get this in court, the better."
Tom Mannard, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, labeled Birch's attitude as "complete cowardice."
"They're just using a Chicago person as a pawn to get what they want," Mannard said. "If they want someone to get busted so they can defend him in court, why doesn't [Birch] come to the city and wave around a handgun himself?"
Mannard said his organization was looking into the legal issues surrounding liability, but that the mayor was on the right track.
"If there is the possibility of prosecution, then yes, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," Mannard said. "But if in fact someone is killed, and legally Birch's group is not liable, the blood is still on their hands."
http://www.thetimesonline.com/index.pl/article?id=17236370
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Comments
At billing rates of $175-$350.00 per hour, its very clear to see who the "winners" are in this issue.
If it wasn't for his old man's lock on the political machine that he created almost 50 years ago, lil Dickie Boy wouldn't even be a voice in the wilderness.
His ideas are pathetic, his speaking skills non-existant.
His family gets round the clock Police protection, all of them! But the honest citizens of "Sh.tcago" can't get a cop to respond in any kind of timely manner. I would really like to see that excuse for a mayor have to live like the commoners for a couple months. 7-2 odds he would resign in a week.
You don't have to move north to get away from that cess pool on the lake, you can also go east and get away, plus which Indiana has concealed carry, and is also a class III state. (To my utter joy)
GML
PC=BS