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Judge Dread
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The forces restraining the evolution of Humanity may try to prevent
in a exersise of futility to supress information...
Resistance is Futile......
JD, The following cut and paste info will make it to the forum .....
Enjoy read and learn .....(I warned of this in previous postings)
Irak Nukes (desing).
This morning the weapons desing (rifle type ) and device was shown to me (its as small as a 10 inch altillery shell) and may be fired by
a Bull type "hidden" long range canon. Irak developed atomic altillery.
Watch north Corea......!!!!!! The axis of Evvvvillllllllll!!!!!
On The Brink Of Nuclear War
By Henry Makow, Ph.D
7-17-2
In the summer of 2002, most Americans seem blissfully unaware that the world teeters at the brink of a nuclear catastrophe.
The latest Debka-Net-Weekly "intelligence" bulletin reports that Sadaam Hussein is in the throes of a decision: whether to launch a preemptive strike on U.S. forces surrounding Iraq, or to wait until the Americans strike first.
Based on its detailed inside information, www.Debka.com most certainly originates with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.
Hussein's considerations are as follows:
If he waits, the U.S. will be fully prepared and he cannot predict if his armed forces will remain loyal. On the other hand, if he attacks first, he will give the US and Israel a pretext to strike with everything they have, even nuclear weapons. His best option may be to use nuclear weapons first. Israel would be a tempting target.
In Debka's words:
"Military preparations [that] Saddam has set in train [suggest] that he is inching closer to his crucial decision. They all signal his active contemplation of biological, chemical - and even a variety of nuclear - weapons against long-range targets.Many experts believe Iraq has set up secret stores for its nuclear devices, such as radiological bombs...Persistent reports suggest also a nuclear weapons unit equipped with cruise missiles developed in Iraq from the naval missiles bought from China and Belarus."
Yes, Iraq apparently already has nuclear weapons, although Debka doesn't say how sophisticated they are. So much for the argument that Hussein must be removed before he gains "weapons of mass destruction."
Indeed Debka states that one of Hussein's current options is:
"A mega-terror strike against the United States or Israel with conventional, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons - that would attain such calamitous proportions as to undo America's military and political position for the Middle East. Whatever the surface appearances, therefore, the immediate horizon seems to hold greater promise of conflict than of diplomacy."
Jews and Arabs are in a genocidal embrace of tragic consequence both for the inhabitants of the Middle East and for the human race in general.
It was set in motion in the Balfour Declaration (1919) when Rothschild and the British elite promised the Holy Land to both Zionists and Arabs. The declaration called for a Jewish homeland while at the same time it defended the rights of the indigenous Arab population. The intention was for the Zionists to serve as the vanguard of imperialist interests in the Middle East, a role the Zionists were only too eager to assume.
According to Ralph Schoenman's book "The Hidden History of Zionism," (http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/index.htm) which is online, Israel always planned to expand its borders and to disperse the Palestinians. He cites the diaries of former Israeli PM Moshe Sharett, which describe longstanding plans to "dismember the Arab world, defeat the Arab national movements and create puppet regimes under regional Israeli power." George W. Bush's current plan to dismantle Iraq and redraw the map of the Middle East along fragmented ethnic lines apparently has been the secret Israeli agenda for 50 years.
Whoever fires the first shot, it seems that Israel and the United States are the aggressor in this the first major imperialist war of the 21st Century. The attack on the World Trade Center Sept. 11 precluded any need for public debate in the United States. For this reason, the Mossad (with the cooperation of the CIA) most likely is behind the attack.
I am just guessing here but the elite probably has a double agenda in case the US and Israel do not execute this war to perfection. That agenda is to discredit and undermine both countries in order to further the fascist New World Order. After the slaughter of millions of people, including tens of thousands of American soldiers, humanity will be traumatized and ready for "permanent peace" guaranteed by the United Nations, which is controlled in turn by the elite banking and oil cartels.
The elite seems to divide into two "house teams" -- Left and Right--for most conflicts. (Thus it backed both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia). Thus John Pilger inveighs against America's perfidy in The Guardian and NWO stalwart Michael Gorbachev cautions against America's folly. Hidden History of Zionism author Ralph Schoenman's career seems to have been underwritten by the NWO sounding "Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation." No doubt the elite's second team has provided Iraq and its allies Syria, Saudia Arabia and Iran with enough funding and weaponry to ensure that the upcoming war will be sufficiently costly and devastating for both sides.
If Islamic terror did not exist, the US and Zionist expansionists would have had to invent it. Perhaps the Hamas should have taken a page out of the Israeli play book and practiced "targeted assassinations" i.e. singling out the principals instead of the uninformed and manipulated public. This policy was followed with great effectiveness by the Irish nationalist Michael Collins, and recorded in the movie by the same name.
What is the way out of this imbroglio? Clearly Americans must prevent George W. Bush's attack on Iraq. Once it has begun and loses are incurred, it will be too late. There will be an unthinking patriotic reaction. The American people must realize they are being used as mercenaries by malevolent "one world" interests, who also are measuring the US for a coffin.
Similarly, Israelis must join their courageous "refuseniks" in renouncing the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza strip, and any expansionist designs. They must reaffirm their support for a Palestinian state, acknowledge Israel's injustices against the Palestinian people, and compensate them generously. In the same spirit, the Palestinians must recognize Israel's right to exist along its 1967 boundaries.
The Middle East is the Crucible of three great world religions which each state that all men are brothers and should live in peace and love. This is the wish of humanity. Satanic forces are at work to ensure that this doesn't happen. The consequences for you and me and all mankind will be tragic. ___
c.2002 Henry Makow Ph.D. Henry Makow is the inventor of the board game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His web site is www.savethemales.ca. He welcomes your comments at henrym@mts.net
Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
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/inc_moderation.asp, line 69
The forces restraining the evolution of Humanity may try to prevent
in a exersise of futility to supress information...
Resistance is Futile......
JD, The following cut and paste info will make it to the forum .....
Enjoy read and learn .....(I warned of this in previous postings)
Irak Nukes (desing).
This morning the weapons desing (rifle type ) and device was shown to me (its as small as a 10 inch altillery shell) and may be fired by
a Bull type "hidden" long range canon. Irak developed atomic altillery.
Watch north Corea......!!!!!! The axis of Evvvvillllllllll!!!!!
On The Brink Of Nuclear War
By Henry Makow, Ph.D
7-17-2
In the summer of 2002, most Americans seem blissfully unaware that the world teeters at the brink of a nuclear catastrophe.
The latest Debka-Net-Weekly "intelligence" bulletin reports that Sadaam Hussein is in the throes of a decision: whether to launch a preemptive strike on U.S. forces surrounding Iraq, or to wait until the Americans strike first.
Based on its detailed inside information, www.Debka.com most certainly originates with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.
Hussein's considerations are as follows:
If he waits, the U.S. will be fully prepared and he cannot predict if his armed forces will remain loyal. On the other hand, if he attacks first, he will give the US and Israel a pretext to strike with everything they have, even nuclear weapons. His best option may be to use nuclear weapons first. Israel would be a tempting target.
In Debka's words:
"Military preparations [that] Saddam has set in train [suggest] that he is inching closer to his crucial decision. They all signal his active contemplation of biological, chemical - and even a variety of nuclear - weapons against long-range targets.Many experts believe Iraq has set up secret stores for its nuclear devices, such as radiological bombs...Persistent reports suggest also a nuclear weapons unit equipped with cruise missiles developed in Iraq from the naval missiles bought from China and Belarus."
Yes, Iraq apparently already has nuclear weapons, although Debka doesn't say how sophisticated they are. So much for the argument that Hussein must be removed before he gains "weapons of mass destruction."
Indeed Debka states that one of Hussein's current options is:
"A mega-terror strike against the United States or Israel with conventional, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons - that would attain such calamitous proportions as to undo America's military and political position for the Middle East. Whatever the surface appearances, therefore, the immediate horizon seems to hold greater promise of conflict than of diplomacy."
Jews and Arabs are in a genocidal embrace of tragic consequence both for the inhabitants of the Middle East and for the human race in general.
It was set in motion in the Balfour Declaration (1919) when Rothschild and the British elite promised the Holy Land to both Zionists and Arabs. The declaration called for a Jewish homeland while at the same time it defended the rights of the indigenous Arab population. The intention was for the Zionists to serve as the vanguard of imperialist interests in the Middle East, a role the Zionists were only too eager to assume.
According to Ralph Schoenman's book "The Hidden History of Zionism," (http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/index.htm) which is online, Israel always planned to expand its borders and to disperse the Palestinians. He cites the diaries of former Israeli PM Moshe Sharett, which describe longstanding plans to "dismember the Arab world, defeat the Arab national movements and create puppet regimes under regional Israeli power." George W. Bush's current plan to dismantle Iraq and redraw the map of the Middle East along fragmented ethnic lines apparently has been the secret Israeli agenda for 50 years.
Whoever fires the first shot, it seems that Israel and the United States are the aggressor in this the first major imperialist war of the 21st Century. The attack on the World Trade Center Sept. 11 precluded any need for public debate in the United States. For this reason, the Mossad (with the cooperation of the CIA) most likely is behind the attack.
I am just guessing here but the elite probably has a double agenda in case the US and Israel do not execute this war to perfection. That agenda is to discredit and undermine both countries in order to further the fascist New World Order. After the slaughter of millions of people, including tens of thousands of American soldiers, humanity will be traumatized and ready for "permanent peace" guaranteed by the United Nations, which is controlled in turn by the elite banking and oil cartels.
The elite seems to divide into two "house teams" -- Left and Right--for most conflicts. (Thus it backed both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia). Thus John Pilger inveighs against America's perfidy in The Guardian and NWO stalwart Michael Gorbachev cautions against America's folly. Hidden History of Zionism author Ralph Schoenman's career seems to have been underwritten by the NWO sounding "Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation." No doubt the elite's second team has provided Iraq and its allies Syria, Saudia Arabia and Iran with enough funding and weaponry to ensure that the upcoming war will be sufficiently costly and devastating for both sides.
If Islamic terror did not exist, the US and Zionist expansionists would have had to invent it. Perhaps the Hamas should have taken a page out of the Israeli play book and practiced "targeted assassinations" i.e. singling out the principals instead of the uninformed and manipulated public. This policy was followed with great effectiveness by the Irish nationalist Michael Collins, and recorded in the movie by the same name.
What is the way out of this imbroglio? Clearly Americans must prevent George W. Bush's attack on Iraq. Once it has begun and loses are incurred, it will be too late. There will be an unthinking patriotic reaction. The American people must realize they are being used as mercenaries by malevolent "one world" interests, who also are measuring the US for a coffin.
Similarly, Israelis must join their courageous "refuseniks" in renouncing the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza strip, and any expansionist designs. They must reaffirm their support for a Palestinian state, acknowledge Israel's injustices against the Palestinian people, and compensate them generously. In the same spirit, the Palestinians must recognize Israel's right to exist along its 1967 boundaries.
The Middle East is the Crucible of three great world religions which each state that all men are brothers and should live in peace and love. This is the wish of humanity. Satanic forces are at work to ensure that this doesn't happen. The consequences for you and me and all mankind will be tragic. ___
c.2002 Henry Makow Ph.D. Henry Makow is the inventor of the board game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His web site is www.savethemales.ca. He welcomes your comments at henrym@mts.net
Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
Comments
First, there always has been and always will be Islamic terror. The Quaran requires that all Muslims are to kill the "Infidels" (non-Muslims). Whether your Jewish, Christian, Buddist or whatever, if your not Muslim, your an infidel and should be killed or converted to Islam.
Second, what's wrong with patriotism?
Third, If Sodamned Insane launches nuclear weapons over any Arab soil, he will destroy any hopes of any Arab nation coming to his aid. His primitive weapons cannot be counted on to completely leave Arab territory and reach Israel. If he missed, the oilfields will be untennable and their income will immediately dry up. If he stuck at the coalition forces that are in other Arab countries, he would be destroying Arab soil. The entire Arab economy revolves around those oilfields. They have no other significant resources. If they were threatened in any way, the other Arab nations would react harshly. The coalition against Sodamned would be strengthened and he wouldn't stand a chance.
Fourth, I don't think President Bush or Israel would use nukes, for the same reasons.
Fifth, as far as all religions in the mid east wanting to live in peace and harmony. What crap. The Muslims want nothing more than and end of the Jewish state, and the death of all infidels. Hasn't the author been reading about all the suicide bombings in Israel? How is blowing up your neighbors, wanting to live in peace and harmony.
Sixth, if you thought America was united after 9-11, just imagine what would happen if Sodamned launched a nuke. Sorry to say, but, I believe that Arab-Americans all across the nation, whether they support Insane or not, would be targeted for retribution. This country would be painted red, white and blue from top to bottom.
On 9-11, as I was walking into my office, I passed the security station. They had a tv turned on to the news. I saw the second plane hit the WTC. A little while later, I heard about the Pentagon. I wanted to leave work, go home and load rifle magazines. I don't know why, I just did. Maybe I thought that the enemy would follow this up with something else. I'm sure there are others that felt the same way. If American forced were nuked, I'm afraid some people might make revenge on innocent Arab-Americans their top priority. I sure hope not. Almost all of our ancestors were immigrants at one time. Just wanting to leave an oppressive country for a better life.
The author of this article is full of crap!
Thanks for letting me vent.
John Colson
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" Luke 2:36
Jeova Witness, 7th day adventist ,Catholic ,protestant ALL of them say
the guys from the "other" religion will "Get it" in hell ....
All of them are the only and true religion ,Let me see...Crusades, inquisition, IRA,Caballeros de Colon, Opus Dei, yep! thoose are Figments of our immagination, Catholics and protestants love each other and the catholic church welcomes "masons" to the Opus Dei.
Fundamental Judaism is based in the premise all "gentiles" are expendable and a Jew married to a gentile is like the Grand Dragon of the KKK geting married to a Woope Goldberg moma....
The problem is a "my dog is better than yours" atitude in all aspects..
I might not agree on all the statements of the information but basically if you "filter" the emotions and concentrate in the intelligence within, you find such information is quite factual, a better to keep in the records so as to prevent denials and future manipulations with political intent.....
As it was 911....
Fact: more than HALF of all the sic*(Terrorist) were CIA NSA trained.
the 2 Puerto Rican ONES were ACTIVE CIA agents at the time of the events ,(now they are scapegoats of the system) the big problem remaining is the bighest one may reside in the White House.....
Rome ! protect your emperor ....Brutus resides among you !
Just take the "info" and not sides (Maybe all are wrong!)and information may be the only way of finding the truth ....
A face many of us will not like at all,but at the end we will be forced to drink and eat from it's cup,we like it or not....
JD
Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....
In reading your posts over time I've formed some conclusions about you...
Your writing, while showing that you are probably as intellegent as most, also tells me that you lack certain elements of reason and that your education may not be well rounded. I base this on your diction, the sometimes glaring errors in grammer, and your steadfast belief in elements of "science" that have no basis in fact. I'd also note your propencity for jumping onto the bandwagon of some who turn a little truth into a lot of fiction.
"THEM" and "THEY" seem to have cornered a huge part of your life. While I have no doubt that "THEM" and "THEY" do exist to some degree, I certainly don't believe to the degree that you do, nor do I allow paranoia to be the main focus of my life.
That our government might have the ability to monitor each and every one of us may have a basis in truth. That it could carry out such is absurd! Our government mostly can't keep track of itself and I sincerely doubt that either you nor I am of much interest no matter how much we flatter ourselves. Remember - Our government is composed of a bunch of slobs very much like ourselves. Maybe brilliant in a narrow range, but mostly unable to use toilet paper properly.
As to the United States position in the world... We were attacked by elements of an evil enemy. Immediately after the attack there were people in other parts of the world dancing in the streets, people overjoyed at the pain and suffering they (or theirs) had inflicted upon us.
We can self-analyze ourselves until hell freezes over or we can react. My gut tells me that I'm not too concerned what others think... Dance in the streets and you're an enemy. Support those who attacked my fellow citizens and you're my enemy. Remain neutral and you're my enemy. Hate me or my country and you're my enemy.
The end result of hate can be resolved on many levels. For two men who hate each other, we could remove them to different parts of the earth and allow each to live in peace. For the same two men who have the power and will to destroy each other even at a distance, I see two conclusions. Either these men will fight to some sort of end, or a third party will halt the proceedings by force.
For two countries or cultures that hate one another there can only be violence as reason has long since met its death. Since I doubt that either culture really has the true moral high ground, the more powerful will need to crush its opponent as a matter of self preservation. In other words, the U.S. should use whatever means available to seek this end at the earliest possible moment. Morals or ethics among nations are not the same as among men... And we too often confuse this issue.
As to our advisaries in the middle east, let's begin to be honest with ourselves. There are fellow humans and nations that hate us to death. Whether that hate if founded in religion, culture, or politics should be of no concern to us. The hate has been stated and we must react.
In the end our enemies give us no choice... Them or us! Either we walk away the victor or we become the vanquished. Our choice! Let's get it over with and we'll let the chips fall where they may.
As to your theories about outside forces... Believe what you may. My guess is that unless we do something, he, she, or it, will be disinclined to move either in support of our cause, nor against. And that's if your "power" even exists or gives a wit!
The cost in total human lives and suffering becomes more each day as we allow our enemies time to prepare for the events to come. Will there be consequences to be paid for what we have to do? Certainly! Will we pay a huge price for what must happen? Probably!
But if we postpone what we know must be done, the price will be much higher tomorrow. It really is a jungle out there. Only the fittest will survive and time is of the essence.
Even now it may be too late for either side to win. In that case history will record that mankind met its fate not by a meteor strike, but by its own hand... And that's how the cockroach came to inherit the earth.
Nord
Rugster
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nord Dear JD -
In reading your posts over time I've formed some conclusions about you...
Then you have not being "reading" at all ...........
JD
Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....