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New Terrorist Attack Today
Bullzeye
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Apparently a group of Palestinian terrorists took over a house in a Jewish settlement occupied by a mother and 7 children.
They proceeded to execute the mother and 3 of the children, light the house on fire, and jump out the window, where they exchanged fire with Israeli soldiers.
I'll post a link to the story when it becomes available.
But I am going to keep this story at the top until nunn makes me stop.
They proceeded to execute the mother and 3 of the children, light the house on fire, and jump out the window, where they exchanged fire with Israeli soldiers.
I'll post a link to the story when it becomes available.
But I am going to keep this story at the top until nunn makes me stop.
Comments
Try this link, the only solution is extermination.
Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands") ~~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
These worthless sacks of garbage, these festering pustules, these revolting excuses for human beings entered a house with a mother and 7 children (the father was at work, supporting his family), and EXECUTED the mother and 3 of the children, before lighting the house on fire.
These people deserve no quarter. The most savage and painful death imaginable does not do them justice.
It's times like this I really hope karma or Hell or something exists.
Anyone that could execute an innocent mother and three of her children in cold blood deserves some sort of eternal damnation. I dont know what kind they'll get, but I sure hope it's something...
You look at this face, you look at this little life, snuffed out by a monster with a bomb on his back and an empty soul and tell me you love the Palestinians.
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
Sharon is just as much a terrorist as is Arafat. The Palestinians just don't have the luxury of a sympathetic press corps.
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What we are seeing here is a world ripe for the anti-christ. We should pray for the souls of both peoples. I know I'll get hammered for this but my apathy is with the Isrealies. I don't think they have a sympathetic press just like we don't when it shows collateral damage in Afghanistan. The press is not friendly to common folk.
Bullz, for a minute I thought you were talking about politicians.
Edited by - 96harley on 06/21/2002 15:20:06
Sometimes I feel that both sides are right. I spent a year living in Tel Aviv as a college student in '89, during the first Intifada. Though I have been and will forever remain pro-Israel, I remember the smug squads of Israeli troops who used to march around the old city during the curfew "patroling" empty streets and closed up shops. I remember the checkpoints in the west bank manned by incredibly arrogant Israeli troops who would regularly humiliate lawful-abiding Palestinians trying to get to and from work and their homes. Remember the halcion days of stone throwing? Chasing a bunch of kids with rocks was a joke to the Israelis and they treated it as such. I actually felt sorry for the Palestinians and their miserable existance.
On the other hand, what the hell are other Arab countries doing to help these people? Nothing now, nothing ever. Between '48 and '67, when Gaza and the west bank were controlled by Egypt and Jordan respectively, did they do anything to develop these areas into anything other than pathetic refuge camps? No. Were the Israelis standing in their way then? No. Why was nothing done? Well, probably because these countries felt that the extermination of Israel was far more important than improving the lives of the Palestinians. What were the Israelis doing during this time? Working to develop their own society.
After the six-day war, it became too late for the Palestinians. That's the reason they are still languishing as "refugees" in their miserable little "camps." You know, it isn't too late for them to stop feeling sorry for themselves. How about getting off their * and doing something productive to improve their society? The Israelis did it, with far less outside help than the Palestinians can conceivably muster from their Arab bretheren.
I love it when they imply that the U.S. should be doing something to help them. Why the hell should we? What about other Arab countries? I think it's the same situation as before. They want to see Israel destroyed more than they want to see the lives of the Palestinians improved. It's like a proxy war, with the idiot Palestians doing the dirty work.
Sometimes I feel that both sides are right. I spent a year living in Tel Aviv as a college student in '89, during the first Intifada. Though I have been and will forever remain pro-Israel, I remember the smug squads of Israeli troops who used to march around the old city during the curfew "patroling" empty streets and closed up shops. I remember the checkpoints in the west bank manned by incredibly arrogant Israeli troops who would regularly humiliate lawful-abiding Palestinians trying to get to and from work and their homes. Remember the halcion days of stone throwing? Chasing a bunch of kids with rocks was a joke to the Israelis and they treated it as such. I actually felt sorry for the Palestinians and their miserable existance.
On the other hand, what the hell are other Arab countries doing to help these people? Nothing now, nothing ever. Between '48 and '67, when Gaza and the west bank were controlled by Egypt and Jordan respectively, did they do anything to develop these areas into anything other than pathetic refuge camps? No. Were the Israelis standing in their way then? No. Why was nothing done? Well, probably because these countries felt that the extermination of Israel was far more important than improving the lives of the Palestinians. What were the Israelis doing during this time? Working to develop their own society.
After the six-day war, it became too late for the Palestinians. That's the reason they are still languishing as "refugees" in their miserable little "camps." You know, it isn't too late for them to stop feeling sorry for themselves. How about getting off their * and doing something productive to improve their society? The Israelis did it, with far less outside help than the Palestinians can conceivably muster from their Arab bretheren.
I love it when they imply that the U.S. should be doing something to help them. Why the hell should we? What about other Arab countries? I think it's the same situation as before. They want to see Israel destroyed more than they want to see the lives of the Palestinians improved. It's like a proxy war, with the idiot Palestians doing the dirty work.
Sniping a few here and bombing a few there is never going to achieve anything but perpetuation. They breed faster than they can kill each other and that's a fact. It's also a fact that this will go on into the foreseeable future. The only solution is total war, and the power brokers will not allow that, just yet; they have interests to protect and this conflict is profitable.
All the talkers need to buy a plane ticket and go over there and talk. You'd soon find out it's not easy to do with no teeth.
Clouder..
It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
the Nazis in venom. Why do you never answer my question, Why not give peace a chance?
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terrorist gangs (Hagana, Irgun, Stern Gang & others) to terrorize the Palestinians into leaveing & selling their lands. The next step was the establishment of the Israeli state in 1948 & driveing the Palestinians out & then again in 1967. The latest violence started when Sharon went to the Dome of the Rock to claim it for Israel & to destroy the peace talks which at that time (about two years ago) were
very close to succeeding.
You want them to win. You want to see the last bastion of Western-culture and sanity utterly annihilated and the entire middle-east under Arab control.
If you want to see a re-enactment of the fall of the Roman empire and the onset of the Dark Ages, just give the Arab nations a reason and a chance to unite as one.
The power of Gheghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Hitler and Hirohito all put together wouldnt match the power of an entirely united Arab front.
1 million well trained, well equipped soldiers would be no match for 40 million poorly trained and equipped Muslim fanatics. We'd be like hay through the thresher, we would descend into forced ignorance, and the world wouldnt recover for many, many centuries...
Think that's far-fetched? Read up on the rise and fall of the Roman empire. They built the most advanced culture that had ever existed, right from the ground up, and eventually it all crumbled and we went right back to the Iron Age. After lots of random butchery and utter disorder, we eventually started all over again from feudalism.
Recovering from a Muslim inundation of the world would take much, much longer. The Gaulish barbarians and the Vandals didnt have religion to channel their insanity.
Another good example: Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge reign. They destroyed every tiny vestige of modern advancement in that country over a period of a year, and from there just ruled the people as stone-age agrarian slave drivers.
Fact: No Western country has ever held a permanent or trustworthy relationship with any Muslim nation. They simply dont concern themselves with keeping lasting relationships in the pursuit of peace. The best they can do is (very) temporary relationships in the pursuit of war. Examples: Saudi Arabia and the US during Desert Storm, and the US and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.
These people are so backward they cant even make lasting peace with their "Muslim brothers"! The Iraqis and Iranis hated each other so much they used chemical weapons freely in their war. Now, they're friends again. The Kuwaitis had their country invaded, their land riddled with land mines, and their sole source of income (oil) nearly permanently destroyed. Now, 80% of the country thinks we are the Great Satan, and they are on friendly terms with Iraq again.
Fact:There isnt a single Muslim country that has anywhere near the level of technology, culture, laws, or supplies that any civilized nation (not necessarily Western ones) considers important to a healthy culture.
Most of them have a vast amount of income (the royal family in Saudi Arabia is in the top 5 richest people in the world), and a vast amount of loyal followers (their people are far more predisposed towards blind zeal than Americans, for instance).
Yet they are, with the exception of some warlord states in Africa, (and most, such as those in Rwanda and Ghana, are Muslim vs. Christian wars) the poorest and most backward nations on earth.
They rely on age-old religious scripts to provide judgement on everything from common sanitation, to food, to criminal punishment. I understand certain Puritan communtities in America were once like this, but we understandably eventually smartened the hell up.
They usually cannot provide enough food, housing, and medicine to support their legions of loyal sheep, but their leaders live in vast palaces with every available surface encrusted in gold and jewels.
It's called a Religious Plutocracy. And at it's root is Islam.
It is the reason why the vast majority of the unwashed Muslim masses are perfectly content with never being able to read, write, or question why Allah (communicating through the Grand High Master Sultan Potentate, of course) says they ought to pick up that rifle and invade their neighboring country.
Chew on that. My insomnia is cured, and I'm going to bed.
Edited by - Bullzeye on 06/22/2002 01:14:53
Edited by - nunn on 06/22/2002 16:19:16
Secondly, if you ever visited Saudi Arabia, you would have to change your idea about an advanced nation. Their telephone system is better than ours, their medical system is better than ours, and their educational system does a better job than ours. However, because it's in a different culture, you don't understand it.
Your intolerance and passion merely belies your age. One knows you will learn as you get older.
It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
As I have posted before, the IDF should tell them, when a bomber blows himself up and kills Jews, the IDF will go in and kill all his family, down to the roaches.
And then pick a plo leader and kill him. Bet this would get their attention.
PS screw the UN and whoever does not like it. And no I did not spell check for those of you who notice such things.
I love freedom, cause a chained dog ain't happy. A southern born child living behind enemy lines in occupied territory
My opinion: The Muslims and the Jews are brothers. Like it or not, they are branches off the same tree. One a legitimate heir, one illegitimate. They have been at each other for over 4,000 years. Why should we even hope it will change?
By the way, there is no Palestine, and no Palestinians...only usetabe Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, etc. that are no longer welcome at home but supported in spirit, long as they stay away.
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AFTER the peace talks fell apart, and even today people talk
about how generous the Israeli offer was and how egotistical
and foolish Arafat was to turn it down. Israel offered peace
and stunning terms, and Arafat turned it all down. Lets keep
the facts straight.
Here is an image of a report in the Sydney Morning Herald of September 26, 2000, that the Barak government was considering entrusting the Temple Mount to the UN as guardian. On September 28, Sharon, to rule out that option, visited the Temple Mount with 1000 Israeli riot-police, sparking the violence that has escalated since.
(I don't believe the image will appear. It is a copy of that paper's front page.)
Nunn: Which one is illegetimate?
Abraham
according to the Book of Genesis, Heb.,=father of many nations] or Abram (A'brm) (KEY) [Heb.,=exalted father], in the Bible, progenitor of the Hebrews; in the Qur?_Tan, ancestor of the Arabs. He is principally important as the founder of Judaism. In this function he instituted the rite of circumcision as a sign of the covenant between God and the Jews, who are descended from Isaac, son of Abraham?_Ts old age. Abraham also received the promise of Canaan for his people. In response to divine command, Abraham left Haran, taking his wife Sarah and his nephew Lot to Canaan, where God promised him many descendants who would become a great nation. His devotion and trust in God and his promises are exemplified pre-eminently in Abraham?_Ts preparedness to sacrifice his son Isaac.
(Note: In the Qur'an it was Ishmael: Gruntled)
Muslims believe that Arabs are descended from Abraham and Hagar through their son Ishmael. Abraham is further regarded as an ancestor of Muhammad. According to the Qur?_Tan, Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba in Mecca and instituted pilgrimages there. The Qur?_Tan depicts him destroying the idols of his father and of his clan; hence, Islam is the restoration of the religion of Abraham. The Book of Joshua confesses Abraham as a one-time worshiper of other gods before he entered Canaan. Other Abraham traditions are to be found in the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, especially in the Book of Jubilees. See also Josephus?_T Jewish Antiquities. Modern biblical scholarship generally concedes the possibility of Abraham?_Ts historical existence. 1
See T. L. Thompson, The Historicity of the Patriarchal Narratives (1974); J. van Seters, Abraham in History and Tradition (1975); A. R. Millard and D. J. Wiseman, ed., Essays on the Patriarchal Narratives (1983). 2
The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. Copyright Ac 2001 Columbia University Press.
Edited by - gruntled on 06/22/2002 19:00:30
six sums it all up in case you don't want to read the whole thing.
Once you're done reading, I hope you realize that time and again
the Israelis have tried to make peace, have offered so much, and
have been turned down time and again. Yes, I think the Israelis
need to get out of the occupied territories, but even if they do
the Palestinians won't stop attacking them. Large numbers
of Palestinians want nothing more than to kill every Jew and every American they can get their hands on. Think about this: if the
Palestinians stopped killing Israelis, the Israelis would quickly
put down their guns and embrace peace. But what if the Israelis
stopped shooting first, what do you think the Palestinians would
do?
________________________________________________________________
Peace talks slowed after the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by Israeli radical in 1995. After several interim agreements and lengthy discussions about Israeli withdrawals, Gaza City, Ramallah, Hebron and other key cities shifted from Israeli control to the Palestinian Authority. But after a first round of moves, talks bogged down in 1997 and 1998.
Finally, after repeated delays, the U.S. brokered an agreement between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netenyahu and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to reopen peace talks in October of 1998. The Wye River Memorandum, as it was called, set the parameters for an Israeli pull-out of more territory in addition to moves by Palestinian officials to ensure the security of Israel. Wye also laid the groundwork for discussions about the formal creation of a Palestinian state and other so-called "final status" issues, such as who controls Jerusalem, the ancient capital claimed by both sides.
With the election of Labour Party leader Ehud Barak in May 1999, the peace talks moved into high gear. Barak quickly moved to expedite a new accord. His government accepted the idea of a Palestinian state and outlined a strategy generally known as "land for peace" - that is giving the Palestinian Authority more territory in exchange for sustained security.
Barak also opened negotiations with Syria and finished the Israeli withdrawal from southern Lebanon. All the moves were part of a concerted effort to end the Arab-Israeli violence and show positive progress on the Palestinian issue.
In March of 2000, a series of negotiations opened outside Washington to find a framework for the final status peace talks. The meetings culminated in another meeting at Camp David in July between Arafat and Barak. As a self-imposed deadline of Sept. 13, 2000 hung over the discussions, U.S. efforts to broker a deal finally failed.
At the talks, Barak offered the most sweeping peace plan ever put forward by the Israeli government. Arafat, while moving forward on several issues, did not accept the plan. In a series of reports based on unnamed U.S. sources, American officials blamed Arafat for the talks failure.
A month later, a visit by hard-line Likud party leader Ariel Sharon to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem sparked days of protests. The violence spread and intensified as Palestinians vented anger at the continued presence of Israel in areas they claim as their own and the lack of progress in the peace talks.
been a peace agreed on.
The generous terms you talk about still did not include any reference to the "Right of return" or any compensation for giving it up. They also did not include returning ALL of the land taken in 1967 & they did not provide for a sovereign Palestinian state. These were the things Arafat was still trying to obtain.
I'm veeeerrrryyyy impressed! You've obviously done your homework.
On this thread your screen name says it all.
I don't look at it from any perspective but one!
Given the fact that the US finds itself in a situation where we have to throw our hat in the ring with someone,,, who do we want it to be??
Israel? The one nation in the region friendly to the US, our culture and our way of life. (how can they afford not to be?) The nation that posesses intelligence assets in the region FAR superior to our own, as well as a black ops capability that would likely make ours pale in comparison. (Our intel agencies cant't get their own heads out of their * long enough to share info that SHOULD have saved American lives!)
OR:?
The non-nation, never-been-a-nation, wouldn't-likely-know-how-to-be-a- nation that hates the US and everything we stand for. A (civilization?) that takes our billions to put a roof over their heads, educate their children, (that's a laugh) and still hates us while they spend every penny of our money and howl for more. A civilization that finds it perfectly acceptable to marry their young daughters off to Islamic leaders to be beaten, and in at least one case, to have a metal rod wired to 220 volts and shoved into her *! The surgeons were able to save her life but little else, and NO ACTION was taken against the religious leader. But what could be expected from a people that become heroes by strapping bombs to their children and sending them to kill the infidel in the name of allah?
SO,,, who do you choose to cast your lot with??
Give me a break!! Anybody with a glass eyeball in their butt can see clearly enough to make that choice! (some present company excepted)
Just my 2 bucks worth
destruction of Israel and the death of all of its citizens.
I don't know what I find more sad: your refusal to admit
that that is what he's really after, or your support of
that effort.
within 2000Y period (Jews are palestinians as palestinians are Jews)
It,s a Runaway free for all, I kill one of your rock throwing kids You send me a "spare" kid of yours to kill mine with a bomb because some CIA trained idiot brainwashed an Osama Bin * to Kill in name of religion and country and teach others to do the same ....
http://www.ou-research.com (read well or find someone with brains to read it for you and explain in crude terms)
Just look in the "Chats" Young palestinian widows looking for strong
"sperm donors" to make kids by the dozen to educate as future bombers..
Agenda:
Create a war to sell Guns and more guns so they kill each other out and regulate their numbers wile making tons of money !!!!
JD
Good...? , Bad...? Who cares ? as long I am the one with the the gun.....