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I will like to deny it myself,but it hits squarely in the face...

Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
I will like for all of you specialy LEOs,PIs,and normal citicens to go deep on this ... OUR FUTURE MAY DEPEND ON IT ... Note: We have received repeated claims by many that they 'remember' seeing the FIRST plane impact LIVE on The Today Show, Fox & Friends and/or CNN... but none of these news organizations lay claim to having been on LIVE when the first plane hit the first tower or feature any exclusive of first impact footage, other than amateur footage, retrieved AFTER the fact; not broadcast live at all. Many people appear to be layering their memories of the second impact, and replays of the first impact, out of sequence in time. If anyone has definitive proof that any broadcasting news facility was on LIVE and aimed at the twin towers to catch the first impact, please send that proof here! We cannot find any such proof ourselves. Remember -- it has to have been a LIVE broadcast of the first plane impact and have been a national broadcast for Bush to have seen the first plane hit while in Florida. At http://www.cnn.com/TRAN SCRIPTS/0112/04/se.04.html is a transcript of President Bush's comments regarding the day of the attacks on the World Trade Towers. Towards the bottom of the transcript is the following quote. QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack? BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE) Thank you, Jordan (ph). Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack." There is a problem with the above statement. There was no live video coverage of the first plane hitting the tower. There couldn't be. Video of that first plane hitting the tower did not surface until days later. Bush is lying through his teeth here. Even though Bush is not a very good pilot (he was taken off of flight status for failure to take a medical exam which included a drug test), it would be silly to assume that a passenger jet hitting the WTC in clear weather was pilot error. The only other known impact between an aircraft and a New York skyscraper was when a military airplane crashed into the Empire State Building in a heavy fog. Because of that incident, there are mandatory altitude minimums over the island. If Bush really did see an airplane on TV hitting the World Trade Towers, then he saw that the aircraft was under control at the time. And, it must be remembered that even after andy informed Bush of the second impact, and by his own admission Bush knew we were being attacked, he continued to read to the classsroom full of children. Just think about that for a while. Confirmation of Bush's comments is also at http://w ww.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html and http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,612354,00.html
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey judge..go take a prozac and climb back under your rock!!!Beach
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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    What a bunch of BSCheck the time line http://ph.infoplease.com/spot/sept112001.html I don't know or care if it was CNN tape or not. I see the first plane hit on TV at around 10:45 CST. Well got to go watch for the "Black Helicopters"
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey judge,Maybe he ment to say he seen that a plane had hit the tower. Do you remember everything word for word that you said about the Sept.11 attacks? Do not knitpick about what happend that day, in a way, we were all there.
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    judge d: I would take you seriously, but that would to insult your intelligence(to paraphrase Bill Buckley)
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  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is film of the first plane hitting the first tower, but that didnt come out on the news for a day or two. The news went on live after the first plane hit, the 2nd plane is the one everybody saw live.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Really, Dread. You need to get a grip and knock that off.If you want to entertain paranoid delusions like that, please go do it at one of the numerous anti-government "revolutionary" hate sites which abound on the great information highway these days. I'm sure they'll love to hear about it. But I think I speak for the whole board when I say that crap doesnt flush.Maybe you should go back to your usual style and post molotov cocktail recipes instead.
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  • PupPup Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About this first plane video argument. It kind of surprised me that some in the terrorist camp weren't on top of a building somewhere taping it as it all happened. I wonder where such video came from? Right now I can't remeber if I saw something like that or not.
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Comment: I just say It hits squarely in theface (the blunder) And to take a deep look ... I have not foundbottom yet and still looking .... too manyidiotic things as the attack itself ...anidiotic loss of life that serves no cause orreason ,just plain LUNATIC ... But if anyone gets to stressed anatensol 15mg will do the trick...
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  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was film of the first plane hitting the tower. A film crew was filming a policeman or fireman doing something in the street. Then you hear a jet engine noise very loud, the camera pans upward (and all the people they were filming do too) and if you listen you can hear a person in the background say something like wow he's low, and then you watch the plane hit the tower. I would swear I watched this at lunchtime the first day. That would be about five hours after it happened. You know any film crew that caught something like this on film would run to sell it to the newstations.
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On sheer curiosity I watched recordings of the FIRST videos that showed the second plane impact more than 50 times and compared them to EDITED second day issues ...there was a lot of frames missing from the time plane HITS the towers and the FIREBALL explosion (they edited the recording to put the fireball and the impact together ,that amounts to Nothing ,but after i saw "PARTS" of the airplane seats ROW! INTACT ! at the street ,I say ,What i saw realy happened ?or was it a GIGANTIC HOLOGRAM? ,at the speed the plane hit if you find a PIECE UNBURN and INTACT at the other side after grinding thru 100 tons of concrete and steel superstructure is more than strange ,if you want to experiment fire a potato cannon at a 3/8 wire mesh and see what comes out the other side (that speaks for itself).
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