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idiot socialists

mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Once again the socialist government has started messing around in people's lives. I refer to the federal governments attempts to oversee airport security and perhaps even make airport security personnel federal employees. Lunacy! If this problem is left alone, the free market system will fix itself. It is important to remember that airlines will probably establish an acceptable level of security, once the cost of replacing airplanes and flight crews becomes onerous. Eventually an equilibirium will be reached, and passengers will be able to choose between airlines that provide good security--probably at higher prices--or they can take their chances with airlines that provide less security at a lower price. There is really no problem. All these socialists want to take over business, when it has been shown that the airlines do a good job of providing their own security without government regulation.

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    Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With all the hoopla about airport security after 9/11, I haven't heard official comments concerning one important point: Given that the INS had already let those jokers into the country, there was no legal reason any of the airlines had to keep them off the flights. No amount of increased airport security would have done the job once they penetrated the border.Personally, I'd like to see two security agents in the cockpit on every flight as a last resort: Smith and Wesson.
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    badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mlincoln don't you think the term "idiot socialists" is a reduncancy?
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    whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BadBoy:The term is tautological.And yes it is.Clouder..
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    elmos608elmos608 Member Posts: 124 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mlincolnSorry to hear that your former employer Argenbright Security is going out of business. Hope you can still find a job as a Square-Badge else where.
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    alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    I worked for Continental Secret service as check in security. I hated going thru peoples handbags and carry on's. You could never know what you would get into.I got a case of headlice from it and i quit!
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    mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's late and I've been at work for fourteen hours, and I was trying to stir up a little something. Either you guys totally got the joke ("It is important to remember that airlines will probably establish an acceptable level of security, once the cost of replacing airplanes and flight crews becomes onerous"--that's a line I'm particularly proud of) or you're all smoking crack. So, fellas, which one is it?
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    Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, you got me. I admit I missed your punch line. Zing!
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    NOTPARSNOTPARS Member Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For Mlincoln: Great job! I teach government in the public high schools and am one of the 2 or 3 conservative/NRA members social(ist) studies teachers out there. I am in the process of writing President Bush, my congressman, and my two senators (Missouri) and asking them to please identify in the Constitution the grant of authority for the national government to take control of security for private transportation services. Of course, all grants of authority are specifically listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. The Tenth Amendment states any power not specifically listed in Article 1, Section 8 belongs to either the states or the people. There is no grant of authority for the national government to take control of security for private transportation! I cannot wait to see how they try to answer this. They have 2 choices:a- admit their ignorance of the Constitutionb- lie and try to claim the commerce or welfare clauses somehow justify this. But, I have heard that argument, read the Federalist Papers, and am ready!
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    salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
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    NOTPARS- The tenth amendment?? What the heck is the tenth amendment?! You better get your constitution updated, because there is no room for the tenth amendment in the modern body politic.
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    mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mr. Lincoln.....You ARE on a "rabble rousing" rant today aren't you? Religion and now security! By the way, the airlines aren't going to provide better security by raising prices. The airlines tend to play "follow the leader" when it comes to ticket prices. If one starts selling tickets from "here-to-there" for $100, every airline that flies that route will do the same. I speak from 34 years experience. After deregulation came about, the airlines can, and do, charge whatever the market dictates. Make the screeners federal employees? Yeah!....that'll really help. MY *!!!Mudge the dubiousps...Clouder.....I thought it was a bit grandiloquent, myself.
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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    Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NOTPARS -- How about Article I, Section 8, which gives Congress the authority (among other things)To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;This has been used to regulate a lot of things that perhaps it shouldn't have, but air travel is certainly foreign and interstate commerce. I'm not saying it's a good idea to federalize all airport security, mind you, but the idea seems to be able to sneak in via the interstate commerce clause. So what argument would you use against this claim?[This message has been edited by Gordian Blade (edited 11-29-2001).]
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    Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Socialism was invented by capitalist to divide and control ,in a pure capitalistic society entropy always destroy it after the clases divide into totaly ruling and totaly dominated , so to give a sense of security and prosperity welfare was invented to control CAPITALIST overproduction and marketsaturation ,simple ,if all guys work you have overproduction so you have to turn to services ,to have servs you need stupid people so you invent welfare and "Sesame street" to control population you inventAIDS and sell drugs ,what else to it? it'sso simple to see yet nobody sees it ! try to get the books "The naked capitalist"and 'Nobody dare to call it a conspiracy'Quite educating ....if you know to read.
    I judge Thee!, Not for what you are , but for what you say !
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