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I Got It! I Got It!

Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
What did I get?
Well, the first thing is I got a third star. I'm now officially a "Member" of this discussion board. I've waited several weeks to make my 500th post, because I didn't want to become a full member until I had achieved the sine qua non of gun ownership, a Pistol Permit. I picked mine up at the County Clerk's Office today.
What else did I get? I went right from the County Clerk's Office to get my first pistol, a Smith & Wesson Model 5906 9mm (police trade-in) that I had on lay-away at my local gun shop. Now, before everybody has a bird about (1) S&W, (2) 9mm, (3) that particular model: (1) S&W is now under better management and besides, it's used. (2) This pistol is meant to be a companion piece to my Marlin Camp 9, which uses the same magazines; I already have several hi-caps for it. (3) I know this isn't the best gun for concealed carry, but I'm only permitted for hunting/trapping/target so I can't routinely carry it around anyway. Both the Marlin and the S&W pistol are for getting back into shooting after not touching a gun for many years, plinking, and home defense in a pinch -- that's why I didn't get .22 caliber.
So as you can imagine, I'm pleased today.
Now, for those of you who don't know about the NY State permit process, let me tell you what's involved and you'll understand why I'm pleased. (To have gotten through it, not pleased with the process itself by any means!) The process started back in November when I bought the Marlin Camp 9 and decided I'd like a pistol to go with it. I started the paperwork, the first step of which is to get four character references from non-relatives. Then I took a pistol safety class at the local pistol club. When all that was done (mid-December) I made an appointment with my local police department to be fingerprinted for an FBI and NY State Police check. The appointment was for early January. Unfortunately, when the FBI got the fingerprint cards, they decided they weren't clear enough. So I went back in February and got them done again. Unfortunately, the FBI office that does the check moved around that time to West Virginia (thank you, Senator Byrd) and my prints got lost. So I had a third set done in March. While that was going on, the local police completed their interviews of my character references. The police officer in charge of pistol permits in my town was very helpful through all this and he prevailed upon the FBI to expedite my background check in light of the delays. Finally, in late April the FBI cleared me and my docket went to a County Judge. He called me into his chambers last week, gave me a lecture about locking up my guns in a safe like he does (at least he owns guns, I said to myself), and then he passed my application on to the County Clerk who completed the paperwork early this week. Total elapsed time from my starting the process to getting the permit: 6 months. This is typical in my county assuming that your background is clean.
By the way, in NY State it was illegal for me to handle a handgun until today, not even in an approved safety class. Today, as far as NY is concerned, I'm an expert, qualified to own and fire any handgun that is legal for a private citizen to own.
OK, now I have given myself permission to post again, watch out!

Comments

  • vol fanvol fan Member Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like another state to add to the list of places NOT to live.

    "Shall not be infrigned"????????

    ______________________

    Charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad for you GB, enjoy! You are far more patient & tolerant of this BS than I could ever imagine being.

    Vol fan, NY was the founding member of that club (think "Sullivan Act"). Arguably, KA & PRK have become even more excessive in the intervening years, but GB still has my sympathies. I like the VT approach much better - buy the handgun & conceal it as you walk out the door - and guess which state has the higher crime rate per capita?!



    Edited by - Iconoclast on 05/15/2002 18:59:07
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Vermont, just conceal the thing as you see fit eh? No permits, no hassle, no nothing. If you can legaly buy it, you can legaly carry it? Nice. I think it's time to sell the house and become a Yankee.



    Edited by - 7mm nut on 05/15/2002 19:05:29
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Vermont certainly has enlightened gun laws, too bad it is so far north and east!

    Congrats Gordian Blade!

    Edited by - He Dog on 05/15/2002 19:08:06
  • davcondavcon Member Posts: 139 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gb,

    What county do you live in? It takes about 8 months to get approved in Onondaga. This is one of the toughest counties in NY to get a permit.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm, anyone not otherwise prohibited (e.g. by Federal law) can carry concealed in VT. Resident or not. Very enlightened in that respect. For some reason that, and their low crime rate, never receive much mention in the Washington Post or the Nightly News . . . can't imagine why. Only problem with VT and NH is we are isolated from the rest of the country by MA & NY, so to go virtually anywhere we have to pass through enemy territory.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But Iconoclast, passing through enemy territory gives you lots of experience with covert passage. It also builds character, sort of like eating beets and letting your maiden aunt kiss you, remember?
  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    davcon, I live in Albany County. The crooks and drug dealers here can get a 9mm pistol in 6 minutes, only took me 6 months.

    Edited by - Gordian Blade on 05/15/2002 19:39:11
  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Gordian, you are right to be pleased. You presevered in a very hostile environment for "gun nuts" like all of us here on the GB board, lol.

    Congratulations.

    -Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
  • JBBooksJBBooks Member Posts: 103 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad for you on both counts.

    JBB

    I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But, He dog, I like beets and my maiden aunt was runner-up in the Miss New Hampshire pageant. I know how I built up my character - it was a lot more painful and expensive than a life time of veggies. All said seriously. I'm on my second marriage; I know how to survive in Indian country, bro!
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gordian, Congrats and welcome to the club of NYS pistol permit holders. The worst thing about the whole ordeal is the counties running it. There is no standardization from county to county. Mine took 8 months from nov 93-july 94. That was the peak of the Brady bill debate, if I had turned in my application a year earlier it would have only taken 4 months. The interview with the judge sounds interesting to say the least, I'm glad Monroe county doesn't do that. The judge that does our permits is about as liberal as they come. I could see myself screwing up the whole process in a matter of minutes just in that interview. If you ever find yourself moving to another county make sure they don't limit how many you can have. I know Genesee and Orleans counties used to limit you to 5 guns. I know 5 probably sounds like alot right now, but once you get shooting you'll want more. Since I got mine 15 have been in my safe, 9 still reside there.

    davcon, is Onadoga county still rubberstamping restrictions on your permits? I nearly went for my permit there until I found out about that. At the time I got my permit I actually had residences in Monroe, Tompkins and Onadoga counties all at the same time. It was just a matter of deciding which I was going to tell NYS was the permanant one.

    Woods

    How big a boy are ya?
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