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Police collecting 'gun DNA' to help solve crimes

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Police collecting 'gun DNA' to help solve crimes Associated PressThough a bullet casing looks smooth to the naked eye, that same shell looks like a scarred lunar surface in the magnified images called up on computer screens at the crime lab. By MICHAEL HILLAssociated Press11/25/2001ALBANY - For the past nine months, state troopers at selected sites have been loading new handguns, firing rounds into steel water tanks and collecting the spent casings. Minute markings on the brass shells are identified and digitized for storage in an electronic ballistics database. The idea is that each casing carries marks unique to the handgun it's fired from, hence the nickname "gun DNA." Police hope that this high-tech database will help investigators match evidence found at crime scenes with particular handguns. No crimes have been solved through New York's database - it debuted in March and is still getting up to size. But it's growing quickly, with more than 10,000 entries so far. "As the database grows in size and in time, we'll have more opportunities and we'll hopefully start seeing some success," said Lt. Mark Heller of the State Police Forensic Investigation Center. New York's Combined Ballistic Identification System - called CoBIS - was signed into law by Gov. George E. Pataki in August 2000 as part of a larger gun control package. The ballistics law covers only new pistols and revolvers sold to people in New York. New York became the second state with such a ballistics database, after Maryland. Both use the same type of computer software, which discerns idiosyncratic marks imprinted on bullet casings when a gun is fired. A 9mm bullet casing looks shiny and smooth to the naked eye. But that same shell looks like a scarred lunar surface in the magnified black-and-white images called up on computer screens at the State Police crime lab. "There's a lot of information that can be inferred here - little scratches, imperfections," Heller said. These images are encoded so that they can be compared to other images in the database. Enter a casing found at a crime scene, and the computer will come up with the closest matches. State Police Lt. Col. Steven Cumoletti said 41 gunmakers - including major ones like Smith & Wesson, Ruger and Glock - are complying with the state law. He said gun manufacturers will provide an envelope containing spent shells with the handgun in about eight out of every 10 sales. In those cases where gunmakers don't comply, dealers wishing to sell a gun must make appointments at one of seven regional CoBIS centers around the state for a test firing. Gun dealers complain about the time they have to spend on test-firing appointments. Dan Bedell said it can take three hours round-trip from his shop in Lancaster to the firing center in Batavia. "It's not very good for a small businessman like myself," said Bedell, owner of Dan Bedell's Firearms & Gunsmithing. "I'm self-employed, and I have to take time out, which I can't get compensated for." A spokesman for Smith & Wesson said the state laws in Maryland and New York effectively double the time new guns spend on the company's test range. Workers can no longer just sweep up used casings, said spokesman Ken Jorgensen. "It adds cost to the product," he said. "The consumer ends up paying for it in the end." Despite qualms from the gun industry, other states are considering the idea. Heller said there have been inquiries about New York's system from officials in Connecticut and Massachusetts. A number of states have legislative proposals to create ballistics databases. http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20011125/1021456.asp

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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What if criminal spray bullets withgoat piss ? Sure a lot of questions willsurge and lab technicians will start to goingto church more often ....
    I judge Thee!, Not for what you are , but for what you say !
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gun DNA only works if you know which people own which guns and I doubt all the gang bangers and thugs are gonna line up and register.
  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Monkey,I'm pretty sure that in NY as well as MD. every handgun you purchase is listed on your permit.So yes in these states they do know who LEGALLY owns a handgun,when someone says there is no registration of guns yet I tell them to just look at NY,CA,MD and I'mm sure there are others.
  • semi-autosemi-auto Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Won't it be a fine world when all the cops have to do is go down a list and confiscate every registered handgun that matches the description of a type used in a crime? Of course, it will be your civic duty to hand it over "for testing". What, don't have it you say? Better come with us "for questioning". Where were you on the night of...? Where are your other guns? We'd better have a look through your house and in your vehicles. Have you ever made any statements critical of the government? Know anyone who has? Gonna need that DNA sample too, before you call a lawyer.
  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still have my CCW that was issued to me in the state of NY. However, I no longer own any of the handguns listed on that permit for the simple reason that the permit is actually a form of registration. I was wondering why such a liberal state was so willing to give me a CCW. Duh! It's a double-edged sword. However, I purchased only one of those guns after NY started their own "DNA" testing.
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So far it only applies to new guns. Those of you who think you are safe by voting for Republican governors should remember this posting. All the years Mario Cuomo was in office we didn't get anything near this bad crammed down our throats. Now you can't buy a new TC Contender or Encore, TC won't ship them here. The interchangable barrels would make it a nightmare for them.A thought for those of you who have an older NYS pistol permit. Ten years ago, my father moved from Monroe to Onadoga county. At that time someone in one of the County clerks offices told him his guns weren't tracable by serial #, they weren't in the database yet. The only way they could trace his guns to him was by going into his permit file and seeing what was there. In other words the guns weren't registered the gun owner was. WOODS
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