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BABY FOUND IN TRASH CAN..

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
Mother hoped for baby's death in trash, police say
St. Petersburg Times; St. Petersburg, Fla.; Aug 7, 2002; CANDACE RONDEAUX;

Abstract:
The mother of a newborn baby left the child in a city trash can for about 16 hours, hoping the infant would die and then be removed by a garbage truck, St. Petersburg police say.

Dr. Benjamin Torres, a neonatologist at All Children's who is treating the infant, said she is surprisingly healthy despite the unsanitary conditions she was left in. Doctors are treating her with antibiotics as a precaution against possible infections.

"The (Pinellas County) Sheriff's Office is working with the State Attorney's Office to see if the child needs to be sheltered - that is, placed with a relative or nonrelative. There are specific shelter homes and foster parents that take newborn babies," said Shawna Donovan, a spokeswoman for the DCF's Tampa office.

Full Text:
Copyright Times Publishing Co. Aug 7, 2002

The mother of a newborn baby left the child in a city trash can for about 16 hours, hoping the infant would die and then be removed by a garbage truck, St. Petersburg police say.

Stephanie Smith, 23, told officers she wanted "the child to die and be taken away via sanitation truck, thereby allowing the birth of the child to remain a secret," according to a police report.

Smith was charged Monday with attempted murder. Late Tuesday afternoon, she was taken from St. Petersburg General Hospital, where she underwent surgery Monday, to the Pinellas County Jail.

Police initially estimated that the child was born about two hours before neighbors discovered her alive and lying in a heap of trash around noon Monday.

But St. Petersburg police spokesman George Kajtsa said Smith told officers she gave birth to the baby around 7:30 p.m. Sunday. The baby spent 16 to 17 hours buried in the trash container with little air and no light before she was found.

According to the police report, Smith put the baby in a plastic bag and tied it shut before dumping the girl in a trash bin across from her home at 2625 56th Lane N.

Ann Miller, a spokeswoman for All Children's hospital, where the baby is being kept under observation until next week, said the baby is in good condition.

Smith's brother, Ryan Smith, said the family did not wish to comment on the case.

After neighbors discovered the baby, dubbed "Baby Doe," she was first taken to St. Petersburg General Hospital before being transferred to All Children's.

Dr. Benjamin Torres, a neonatologist at All Children's who is treating the infant, said she is surprisingly healthy despite the unsanitary conditions she was left in. Doctors are treating her with antibiotics as a precaution against possible infections.

Lack of oxygen and extreme heat can sometimes result in brain damage in infants, Torres said.

"Newborns don't tolerate any extremes of temperature very well. For the lungs to work and for the brain to function you have to have oxygen," Torres said. "You have to clear their air passages when they are born. If that doesn't happen the baby turns blue."

Torres said the newborn is lucky to have survived Monday's soaring temperatures and unsanitary conditions.

"Some babies will be able to keep their blood sugar levels up for 24 hours, but that is unusual," he said.

Officials with the Department of Children and Families said a Pinellas County court must decide within 24 hours of the baby's discovery whether Smith will retain parental rights over the abandoned baby.

"The (Pinellas County) Sheriff's Office is working with the State Attorney's Office to see if the child needs to be sheltered - that is, placed with a relative or nonrelative. There are specific shelter homes and foster parents that take newborn babies," said Shawna Donovan, a spokeswoman for the DCF's Tampa office.

Donovan said her office has received several calls from people interested in adopting the baby. But before Baby Doe can find a new home, her case must wend its way through custody proceedings in court.

"It's not the type of situation where the child is going from the hospital to an adopted family. There is a process," Donovan said.







One woman's opinion

Comments

  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe this is where unlimited and unrestrained abortion
    on demand has taken this nation. God forgive us.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    This "woman" should be killed. Failing that, she should be permanently sterilized and spend a long time in prison.

    There is no excuse for ANYONE in 2002 USA to become pregnant if they don't want to be.

    I have caused pregnancy only twice in my life, though I had many other opportunities than that. NO EXCUSE.



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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They should set a Date and Time and have a Public,TV viewed Hanging.After seeing two or three of these people would think before commiteing Heinous crimes.Look at the people who would love to have a child and cant.She could have given that child up for adoption.

    Rugster
  • muleymuley Member Posts: 1,583 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Officials with the Department of Children and Families said a Pinellas County court must decide within 24 hours of the baby's discovery whether Smith will retain parental rights over the abandoned baby."
    Are they kidding?? This low life, heartless b***h gave up all rights to this child when she tried to murder her.
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Abord the mother... Remove her from existance... Seen last night where another woman murdered her baby and police were trying to get planned parenthood to release records for their investigation but Planned Parenthood wouldn't relenquish them. Another thing, why are they called planned parenthood when they advocate and encourage abortion. They should be called something like Destroyers of Life, or Satans Slashers...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am happy to hear that the baby is alive and doing well. Someone with a higher authority must have plans for her.As for the mother, the gene pool needs clorine!

    If I knew then, what I know now.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am not sure why this rather disgusting topic is even here. If you want to be outraged folks, be 48 times as outraged, because this happens every year in almost every state. I don't think this is where abortion takes us, but rather what abortion prevents more of.

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I will *not* get into the abortion debate, no way. But if this individual carried to term and didn't want the baby, for whatever reason, there are so many childless couples who would take her with inifite love and gratitude, and be more than willing to protect the mother's identity. And just how large *was* the mother that she could carry to term, give birth and think no one would know? We don't have any information on the father, but at this point it would seem desirable the dominant genes come from that half of the equation, at least when it comes to intelligence. Stupid, sick, and many unprintable terms.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    He Dog,
    I agree completely with you on the abortion issue...

    This is no more disgusting that the posts on the killing at the WTC... all innocent lives... one life is not any more valuable than the next...

    There is a program in Florida that any woman or girl that gives birth and does not want the baby, can drop the baby off at the local hospital.. no questions asked...I know to some, it make look like a "throw away" program, and you may say, that the girls will take the attitude of.. oh well, if I get pregnant I will drop off the baby.. no big deal..... well that is not the aim of the program, nor should it be thought of as that... but a place, where, if abortion is against your beliefs, or you do not have the funds for one, you can leave the baby without fear of charges...Fear, shame.. whatever, will often replace rational thinking, and the legal route of adoption is overlooked...




    One woman's opinion
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Denver has adopted the same kind of program that BlackRoses is talking about. They allow you to drop off unwanted babies at a variety of places, hospitals, fire stations, police stations, etc. somewhere where the baby will not be exposed to any harsh conditions. The only problem I have with the current policy is that the mother has a certain time frame where as she can come back and claim the child. I think that once she drops it off, she should not be allowed to change her mind.

    If I knew then, what I know now.
  • SUBMARINERSUBMARINER Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    just think though.if she does the exact same thing to her baby 3 weeks earlier she would be defended by every womans organization and all liberal democraps in sight .someone explain to me the difference.

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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Icono,
    Just wanted to throw my two cents in here......since I know someone who gave up a child for adoption.

    IF the baby is white, and healthy, it can be adopted in about .3 seconds. No problem.

    If the baby is sick, black, brown, or anything other than a healthy white baby, FORGET IT! Adoption most likely WILL NOT HAPPEN, unfortunately. :(

    Terrible....these people who claim to "love babies" really only love HEALTHY WHITE babies. Makes me sick. If you "love babies" then you should be even more inclined to help out a handicapped one.

    Now, not everyone is like that, of course. Mainly the yuppy types.

    When I lived in MO, there was a man and woman in my town who had adopted over 30 kids (not at once) who were unwanted/crippled, etc. THAT couple "loved babies". I always thought very highly of them. They were some very good people.

    Merc



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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mercury, your response is nothing but pure abortionist propaganda. ANY healthy baby will be adopted instantly in this country right now. And, furthermore, poor people don't have abortions (yet). They can't afford them. 99% of women who have abortions are white upper-class. Apart from abortion, over 90% of people currently waiting in line to adopt babies check the box specified "race", as "any". They just want a kid. It's a shame that so many irresponsible people kill them every day and call it legal.
    "Well, it IS legal!!!"
    "That doesn't make it right."
    "YES IT DOES!!! IT'S LEGAL!!!!!"
    "Ummmmmm......so is taking away your gun.............................."

    Let me see now....if it's legal to confiscate weapons, we have a big fight on our hands. If it's legal to murder human children, well, that's cool beans!!! I have no amazement left in my being for the massive onslaught of constant and consistent hypocrisy. If you believe in rights, you believe that a human child has rights. Period. There are NO if ands or buts. And PLEEEEEEAAASEEE!!!!! Don't any idiot try and tell me that it isn't human until it is born, unless you are willing to tell me that it's an alligator or a seagull.
    Then, I can just call the nice men in the white coats and have you sheltered from the aliens. If you want to say "it's inviable" or "it's only a mass of tissue", then you can save that for lying to yourself to make it feel better. You know it was a human being. And please keep the "you aren't a woman so you wouldn't know" blather. that's no different than saying "I was in a war!! You're not a man, so you wouldn't know."
    Abortion is murder. Lying to one's self will never change that. This was just another abortion. Why was it a news story? Baby-killing is legal in this country, hell, it happens millions of times a year. Probably happened in the same community 40 or 50 times that day. My God!! One of the little unwanted bastards actually made it out of the womb!!! We gotta cover this, and fast!!!
    I'm sure that you'll poof this, Nunn, but don't do the whole thread, please. I'll stay away from it now.
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Amen, the Beast has spoken truely, read and heed.
    Of course, I could change my mind on this whole abortion issue if they were to allow retroactive, post-partum abortions- say up to age 35.

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry: Their proper name is "Planned Barrenhood."
  • SkyWatcherSkyWatcher Member Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There's an old saying "The Lord watches over the infants, idiots, and drunkards"...Well, I've been all three and He brought me this far, I just hope that I, and the rest of us, have to good sense to help those who can't help themselves - return the favor. ...Old Jesus, he said one time that "Whatever you've done to the least of these, you've done to me."...I hope I'm treating you right Lord...

    To whom much is given, much is expected.
  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just picked up my newest rifle from my FFL on Tuesday. He showed me pictures of a 2 1/2 year old girl that his son and daughter-in-law adopted from Russia. She is missing one leg. I guess the new father said that there are literally hundreds of thousands of kids in Russia up for adoption. Also, the Russian people said something like "only Americans and Canadians will adopt these sick or damaged kids". Unfortunately, like Mercury said, many people only want to adopt particular children.

    On the upside the little Russian girl is now in the U.S. and she is doing great! She has been given a prosthetic limb and is literally running around now! She is learning English too and has a great sense of humor.

    It's strange to think that if not for the action taken by this American couple that little girl's life would almost certainly been completely different (and worse).



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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    I was down on Jay Street in Schenectady visiting my Army recruiter today. He was busy in a conference, so I took a jog around the block.

    There was a "Planned Parenthood" center on the next street over. The front door was heavily barred. The windows were covered with bulletproof lucite and tinted so that you couldnt see inside. But they were festooned with all kinds of the most revolting pro-abortion propaganda I have ever seen. The one that really sticks in my mind: "Modern women dont deserve unwanted impositions. Abort: It's your right."

    I was tempted to walk in and give them an unwanted verbal imposition, but I'm sure the door was buzzer operated anyway.

    The amazing thing was, right next door to the clinic was a pro-life information distribution center. It really made me glad to see that people do care in this day and age.
  • mybadodgemybadodge Member Posts: 118 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard about this story the day it happened being I'm a St Pete resident, what I find disturbing is that there is now a law in florida that if she had just dropped the kid off at a firestation, hospital, etc, she wouldn't have faced charges. and then gets a 30 day buffer to reclaim the kid. that is ridiculous.

    Bob
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am in favor of conquest by force and ending all this abuse in this planet but the "As is in heavens is on earth applies....."

    ET politician are farrrr more advanced in deceit that Human ones....

    To start with GODs cangaroo court entrapment of ADAM and EVE...

    And eding with the no interference contracts with Lucifer to enter this realm....

    This planet is an unholy mess.....


    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Amen Bruddah!!
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