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An Ebay sniper site

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
http://www.hammersnipe.auctionstealer.com/home.cfm

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks, I'll look into it. But it still won't help me get an anamorphic widescreen SCARFACE dvd reasonable, as long as people are willing to bid them up to those inflated prices(!) that I'm not willing to pay....

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • charlieccharliec Member Posts: 269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sites like that should be illegal!!! Just MY opinion.

    Chuck

    If man thinks for one minute he understands women, he's timed it about right
  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Idont think I would trust them with my E mail AND password.
  • reel-guyreel-guy Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've used auctionstealer more than a dozen times with great success.

    I personally like to do it manually to see how close I can get. Of course the item has to be something I can do with or without....

    As a seller on ebay I welcome snipers. Any bidder that drives the price up is OK by me!
  • fergusonmorse392fergusonmorse392 Member Posts: 432 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    THANK GOD FOR GUNBROKERS FORTHOUGHT, 15 MIN, RULE, NO SNIPES HERE. AS LONG AS SOMEONE WANTS TO BID THE AUCTION GOES ON, LIKE A REAL AUCTION!
  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i think I will look into this.

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    Now Saxon, I know so very socialble hedgehogs.I think they would be very offended by the comparason.

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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    Saxon
    come on now,how do you really feel without buttering it up.

    AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Used to be, if you wanted to watch an item on your My eBay page you had to place a bid on it. Then eBay came up with the Items I'm Watching feature, making it possible for snipers to watch a large number of auctions without bidding on any of them.

    Say what you like, but sniping is just another way of bidding on eBay nowadays, and most people over there take the attitude that a bid that comes in the last second is just as valid as one that comes in the first second.

    I used to rail about the fact that these were "auctions, stupid," myself, but the direct marketers have made folly of that rallying cry far more than the snipers have. I have been trying to buy Scarface on widescreen DVD all week with no luck because the marketers who are selling the bulk of them buy them cheap and then open the bidding at $20 or more -- the BuyItNow price may be $35 and up. When one opens cheaper, I put in a high bid of $18-20 or so, and the last minute bids never fail to drive the selling price up to $23 or more. This for a DVD that people seem to agree has mediocre sound and picture, but happens to be out of print (though there are tons of copies around for sale, domestic and import).

    I'll wait for the one nobody wants, thanks. I'm sure not every seller expects to get over twenty bucks for a used dvd. It's just a matter of time until the studio re-issues this movie cheap anyway -- my guess is $10-15 for a newly mastered copy. Universal released AIRPORT and EARTHQUAKE in widescreen for ten bucks a pop, new. How will you feel about your $35 copy then?

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

    Edited by - offeror on 09/18/2002 21:52:13
  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Offeror, If one come thru my store I'll contact you. I sell all used DVDs for 7-10 bucks no matter the title. Will be more than happy to help you with this. Pel

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  • reel-guyreel-guy Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saxon Pig... I wish I could be as adult and worldly as you. With the Sniper program you don't sit at your computer..... the program does it for you. Besides if I piss off some pond scum all the better. Let me guess...... your tee shirts are sleeveless, you drive a monster truck, your knuckles touch the floor, and your beer is 3 cases for $20.
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Uh-Oh,....this oughta be good!
  • PapaBear2PapaBear2 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dear Mr. Pig,

    If you follow ebay's suggestion and use the proxy bid feature as designed, then snipers don't affect you. If you have actually considered your bid, and the sniper outbids you, you really haven't lost anything because you wouldn't have bid that much. If the sniper doesn't outbid you, you pay your maximum bid or less.

    The only people over whom snipers have the advantage is those who do not use the proxy bid as recommended.

    I don't understand why you expect others to bid according to ebay suggestions, and seem unwilling to do so yourself. But then again, I guess I really don't need to understand.

    Hope you enjoy the weekend.
  • SunraySunray Member Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, Saxonpig. I read the second line. You didn't really say that snipers are bad, just that site.
    So says your Norman overlord. And E-bay isn't the best at any time.

    Edited by - sunray on 09/21/2002 01:07:33
  • davem3davem3 Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess you could call it being sniped, once had a seller on eBay cancell my bid & withdraw the item 2 SEC. before it was over. I guess the bid amount was just not high enough so he withdrew. This after putting several paragraphs about deadbeat bidders not following through on a purchase! One week later it (or an identical) was listed again.

    davem3
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    hey SP do you need a little cheese to go with that wine?
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    SP sounded like whining to me but I could care less, If you bid your max then how can you be sniped? its just some one else was willing to pay more than you where , wouldn't you agree? and how do you figure they shorten the auction? the auction is continued for 15 more minutes so they really lengthen it not shorten
  • ladrladr Member Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I do it....and I will not be rude about.

    it is a AUCTION...get it??

    The idea is to bid on something you want and WIN it.

    A real life auction where you stand there and bid has no set time for the bidding to end.

    The majority of the on line auctions has a clearly stated END time.

    I think it stinks the way GB will extend it. If I outbid you in the last minute...it means that I was willing to PAY more then you was.

    I sell alot on Ebay...and I could care less if someone uses the snipe program as long as I get my money.

    NO GUTS, NO GLORY
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    since you were posting on GB and calling snipers the lowest life forms there are, I assumed you were refering to something that happened on gunbroker,it wasn't until your third paragraph that you even mentioned being sniped on e-bay .

    How can you consider last minute bidding impolite? some one has to have the last bid.

    as far as the whining goes it was not meant as a personal attack but it sure sounded like about what a 5 year old would say, and since this is a general forum I guess I can state my opinion as to what you said and if you don't like it to bad!




    Edited by - gskyhawk on 09/21/2002 15:31:20
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pel --
    I'll take you up on that. The money's yours if you find me one. Gotta be widescreen though please. That's my only limitation. And thanks for the offer anyway.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • PrebanpartsPrebanparts Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OFFEROR

    Scarface is due for DVD Rerelease in about a month, I will check and see its its widescreen..think its some sort of special edition so its likely to be
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    I want to introduce you to my little friend.

    If your gonna be stupid you better be tough !!
  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...Saxon"THE"Pig, You are the lowest form of scum!




    Law...The Sniper....

    "Don't mistake my honesty for weakness...
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    Fair enough, but I really did not mean it as a personal thing, around in these parts when some one is thought to be whining the saying is, do you want a little cheese with that wine?

    Here again this is only from my veiw point but from the way I read your reply its was like you are sitting on a pedestal looking down your nose at what any one had to say that didn't agree with you.

    As far as needing anything explained to me thats not necessary considering your opinion is perfectly clear to anyone reading your posts. Like I said nothing was meant to be personal but if you are going to dish it out you need to expect to get it dished right back.


    Many people have many different points of view. I guess the point I was trying to make is maybe you should not assume people wait until the last minute. Maybe................ they don't tune in until the end of the auction??????????
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    SP
    Unfortunately, you would probably not like me very much. The only time I bid is at the last seconds of auctions on Ebay. I don't ever have to worry about getting outbidded. The only problem I have is if my max isn't higher than there max and then I run out of time to put in another one if I want to. Oh well if I am scum....I pay more than you were willing to pay and I am happy. Call me what you want, I got what I wanted!
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    just in case any one needs this
    definition of Whining from Webster's Dictionary: To express distress or COMPLAINT by a PLAINTIVE DRAWLING CRY; to complain in an INFANTILE, PETTY, OR ILL-HUMORED WAY. To express with a whine. A drawing, plaintive tone or cry; a petty , ill-humored complaint.



    Edited by - gskyhawk on 09/22/2002 08:33:47
  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Once you find "The Pigs" new word in the dictionary...You'll see his picture right next to it!!!










    ...of course you'll find my pic right under his...

    "Don't mistake my honesty for weakness...
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    I made my comment in general:
    SaxonPig ( I guess you need some things explained to you ) If YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE THEM AS BEING DIRECTED AT YOU THEN THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE NOT MINE!!!
    did I use your name in any way ?
    so now who's making it personal?
    for some reason you feel the need to resort to name calling sounds like you have just become what you where complaining about!

    since you don't know the definition of * and its not listed in the dictionary the closest thing I could find for you is this:
    *: A male donkey or *; a foolish or stupid person:
    if you need any more help in looking things up in the dictionary just let me know
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    But is sniping okay or not? Can't tell anyone's position here. Please restate.

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SaxonPig, What kind of logic are you using to believe that insulting people in a general way is OK but insulting people in a personal way is bad? Insults are insults. And if we were going to vote on this Id say that you are whining about snipers.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Preban --
    When the re-release of SCARFACE comes out there are going to be a lot of stupid-feeling people holding expensive copies they bought off the internet auctions for way too much money, which I hear have rather murky picture and sound anyhow. Thanks for the tip.

    As for sniping, it sucks to be on the receiving end, and I have checked out a few bidders that I thought might be shills, driving the closing price up without intending to pay for it if they won.

    But over on eBay, sniping has become one of the accepted practices. I'm not sure anybody saves much money over there anymore, because almost every popular auction has some snipers ready to drive the bid up at the last minute. It's one reason for a seller not to close auctions early, though. You can count on sniping. Since I know there will be snipes on virtually everything, I either place a very high maximum to be assured of an item I want, or I sit there at auction close and make sure I bid higher if the price goes up. If that means my last bid comes in the last 30 seconds, oh well. But I can't tell you how many items I've missed out on because I waited until the last minute to bid, and then my ISP broke a connection just at bidding time, or there was a slow transmission so that my bid arrived after auction close. So I have nothing against sniping anymore, since "everybody does it," but it's not a guarantee of lower bid prices either. It doesn't do you any good to write the seller after close and say, I would have bid your item higher, but I missed it. If I really want something, I don't rely on last second bidding.

    As for snipers being scum, it's accepted practice on eBay. It's like my saying the direct marketers that infest eBay with hundreds of one-price-fits-all items are scum. It may have been true once, but it's no longer relevant, because it's the way the market has gone. So I run my searches with keywords to eliminate as much of the junk as I can.

    Where the auctions have a 15-minute delay every time another bid is placed, sniping is effectively de-fanged, unless the auction closes in the middle of the night. But regardless, if there's an item I really want, I'll try to be sitting there watching the action at auction close. At least if I win, I'm there to send the seller an e-mail, so he knows I'm a "real winner." There's enough non-paying bidders to make that an important reason to confirm your wins shortly after auction close. So you might as well be sitting at the computer anyhow.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    Saxon,

    Not everyone is an honorable person, or as my pappy used to put it, "a man". They think if they do it their way, they are a smart business man. Each to their own, I guess. I'm with you. I bid a max bid that I will pay, and most of the time someone comes in at the last minute and takes it out from under me. I did have a guy try that one on me, but my max bid kicked in and up'ed him. He then e-mailed me and offered me $10 profit if I would sell it to him. I would have taken a $50 loss before I did that.

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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    "When in Rome, do as the Romans" Does this ring a bell?

    If your gonna be stupid you better be tough !!
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