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President Bush

GrandWizardGrandWizard Member Posts: 109 ✭✭
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
When the U.N. Security Council rejected America's demand for immunity for U.S. soldiers in the Bosnian peace force from arrest and prosecution by the International Criminal Court, the United States vetoed an extension of the force. Either our troops get immunity, or our troops get out.

Good for President Bush.

Once again, when the demands of globalism clashed with the call of patriotism, he put America first. Because he, not Al Gore, is in the Oval Office, America has rejected both the ICC and the Kyoto Protocol on global warming. Even on steel tariffs, where he put his free-trade ideology on the shelf to protect America's steel industry from foreign dumping, Bush exhibited a Reaganite patriotism. And the muted protests suggest that liberals recognize that the patriot card is still the ace of trumps in American politics.

While these presidential decisions produced howls from abroad of "unilateralism" and "isolationism," they are signs of U.S. resolve in the struggle between God-and-country people and the globalists who await the messiah of World Government.

And just as the decision of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to declare the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional tipped the hand of judicial activists, this U.N. attempt to force U.S. troops under the ICC is welcome. For now, we no longer see as through a glass darkly who the true enemies of American independence are. Their dream is to limit U.S. sovereignty and transfer control of U.S. wealth and power to a global elite that intends to rule the world in the interests not of nations, but of mankind. The institutions of that global regime are already up and operating.

The Security Council is its Senate; the General Assembly its lower house. The Supreme Court is to consist of the World Trade Organization for trade, the ICC for war crimes and the World Court for disputes between nations. The foreign aid dispensers are the African, Asian and Latin American Development banks, and the World Bank. The IMF is its Federal Reserve -- and the model is the European Union.

In the last decade, World Government made mammoth strides, with "Third Way" socialists giving up their national currencies in Europe, the creation of the WTO with the backing of Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole, GOP support of new bailout billions for the IMF and Clinton's signing of America on to the ICC.

But globalist demands have now begun to clash with U.S. vital interests in ways even Republicans can understand. For the Senate to ratify Kyoto would mean a rollback of U.S. fossil fuel emissions to the level of 1990 -- i.e., a depression. And even Democrats realize that the ICC's prosecution of U.S. soldiers for war crimes means the end of the career of any politician who lets that happen.

With immigration, sovereignty is becoming the most explosive issue in Europe, and it is propelling populist parties toward power. So fearful has the European Left become that it now seems hesitant to expand and deepen the EU into an all-powerful regime.

Baroness Margaret Thatcher now concedes that Enoch Powell, whose career was destroyed by his "rivers of blood" speech decrying Third World immigration, was right to have opposed Britain's entry into the EU. She seeks a British withdrawal.

The vehicle the globalists hope to ride is free trade. As the European Coal and Steel Community led to the European Economic Community to the European Community to the European Union today and Euroland tomorrow, they hope NAFTA will lead to a hemispheric free-trade zone, then a global zone with a single currency. Out of this will arise a regime that will slowly expand its power until national sovereignty is ancient history.

The issue may be decided this decade, and we Americans will make the decision. If the price of global trade is a WTO that can impose its will, if the price of the Global Economy is another round of IMF bailouts, if the price of being a world citizen is the surrender of sovereignty and authority to the U.N., will Americans pay it?

What exactly is the price of liberty?

The globalists have a vision of the future, and they will pursue it instinctively and incessantly. The question is: Will patriots not only block this drive to world government, but will they to roll it back? Are they willing to recognize, as Baroness Thatcher has, that we are far down the road to the loss of national independence?

In this struggle, it is an advantage for true conservatives and populists that George W. Bush is not only Andover, Yale, Skull & Bones, Harvard Business and Kennebunkport, he is also Midland-Odessa.

Patrick J. Buchanan

Comments

  • Jody CommanderJody Commander Member Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DAMN! I must be getting soft headed, I actually agree with Pat Bucahanan about something. I suppose the next step is to buy a brown shirt and brush up on My goose-stepping.
  • quickslvr982quickslvr982 Member Posts: 158 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hey grandwizard how old are u....i recomend u watch the movie american history X-- it deals with your beliefs and shows an outsiders perpspective on your beliefs...its a brilliant movie either way..just watch it...at least this way i might actually continue to read your posts
  • Bushy ARBushy AR Member Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quickslvr..."American History X"..what a powerful and moving piece of film-making...I agree,should be required viewing in senior year...maybe sooner the way kids are bombarded with trash(read rap) so early in life...I watched it with both my boys when I thought they were ready...talked about racism as a disease...spreads through lack of treatment.

    Little people talk about people,regular people talk about things,and big people talk about ideas.
  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mmmm, doesn't look like I'm gonna make it to a neo-Nazi rally anytime soon, but still, the idea of "world government" leaves me kinda cold. Can't say I'm crazy about the idea of some Pakistani pinhead deciding how I live my life. Pat Buchanan is right about more things than he's wrong.

    I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.--Voltaire~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    American History X was pure liberal crap.
    The way conservative ideology was coupled with rascism is a trick that the left uses often. All conservatives are rascists.In A few scenes in that movie it struck me funny as to how a bunch of rascists would talk about conservative issues, and then in the next breath talk rascist.
    If you think illegal immigration is bad-your a rascist skin head.
    If you think the LA rioters were criminals-your a rascist skin head.
    If you are against affirmitive action-you are a rascist skin head.
    That movie was a fine example of Leftist propaganda.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • Bushy ARBushy AR Member Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo...darn man,you don't like anything...do you even like yourself? Lighten up before you have a stroke...yeah,maybe those skin-head idiots aren't conservative afterall,maybe the film-makers took some liberties,but then again maybe we feel nervous about those "aryian club members" because they might be too close for comfort for alot of us...well,maybe ultra conservative ideals anyway...do you think that they should have been talking about liberal issues?...Yeah,that's the ticket,next film they can be watching Rosie and then spouting "gays are misunderstood" and "abortion is a woman's right" and maybe even "eliminate the gun-show loop-hole"...yeah,that will add the creditability we need...what do you think?

    Little people talk about people,regular people talk about things,and big people talk about ideas.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Hardly a day goes by that I'm not astounded by the numbers of intelligent people who have succumbed to the propaganda and brainwashing techniques of the socialist liberal leftists. With the news and entertainment industry pounding it into your head 24 hrs/day, sooner or later it's bound to stick.

    I heard it on the news, it MUST be true.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • Bushy ARBushy AR Member Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Lowrider ...have you seen the above mentioned movie? Is Salzo right? Is it just leftist propaganda,or is it a close approximation of those IDIOTS? I think alot of some of the opinions I see posted here,and I would like to know.If you were to make a movie about that racist movement known as skin-heads(numb-skulls is more like it),how would you represent them? How could that movie be different? Oh, and by the way,have you seen "Romper-Stomper"? It too is about that type of group.

    Little people talk about people,regular people talk about things,and big people talk about ideas.
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    ...yeah,maybe those skin-head idiots aren't conservative afterall,maybe the film-makers took some liberties,but then again maybe we feel nervous about those "aryian club members" because they might be too close for comfort for alot of us...well,maybe ultra conservative ideals anyway...

    Skin heads are not conservative-they are racists. Conservative or constitutional ideology has nothing to do with rascism.
    With your "ultra-conservative" remark, it seems apparent that you have swallowed the propoganda that the left/media/hollywood dishes out with respect to "extreme right wingism". Racism IS NOT an extreme right ideology.The media just associates racism with the right wing.
    You might feel "nervous" because there ideology is "to close for comfort" for you,but I feel very comfortable with my "ultra conservatism", and can not find a connection with racism and conservative thought(at least, outside of the Hollywood/media definition).
    Just curious as to why you are so sure this movie was an "accurate" representation of skin heads. What do you base this assumption on?
    I have seen a few documentaries on the skin head phenomenenon, and I have never heard any actual skin heads speak in a conservative manner-it is all about hate. One I remember is "blood in the face" and none of the real rhetoric the skins were spewing even remotely resembled conservative ideals.
    That movie you praise definately left the impression that if you
    Thought rioters were criminals,
    Thought affirmitive action was wrong,
    Thought that stopping illegal immigration was wron, then you were one step away from shaving your head and curbing some black man on the street.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • Bushy ARBushy AR Member Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo...thank you for your opinion...I asked if it was a "close approximation"to the movement because I really do not know for sure.Yes they are racists,yes they are idiots,but my opinion that they are conservative still stands.Xeno-phobia has been,and still is,an ultra-conservative trait."Speak English or Get the **** Out" or other such epithets are a part of the "Right-Wing" mentality,are they not? I personally feel that I am "Right of Center" in most of my beliefs.However,radicalism either way can be viewed as wrong depending on the viewer,or part of the country they happen to be standing in at the time.My question to you is the same as I asked Lowrider...if you were to make a film about that movement,what would you include as to their political beliefs.Or better still,how would you have changed the film "American History X"?

    Little people talk about people,regular people talk about things,and big people talk about ideas.
  • FitzFitz Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The truth is, I agree with every single word that GrandWizard said in his post. The only problem I have, GrandWizard, is with your screen name. It suggests you hold other beliefs I definately do not. The messaiah reference is also accurate, though disturbing to many folks who get their history and news from the leftist-controlled media. Not many folks will publically agree with anyone named "GrandWizard", no matter how right you are. Just my 2 cents.

    Fitz
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I would never change the movie-it is a work of fiction, and should be treated as such-It should not be used as a "tool" to teach children, or anyone else about racists and racism. I for one would not want my kids thinking that being against affirmative action makes you a racist.
    Check out the movie "Blood in the face". A real life documentary about white supremacists and their ilk. When you hear their rhetoric, it is quite clear that their beliefs are not tied to conservative thought. Sure they love affirmative action, but their love for affirmative action is not because it goes against the principles of equality, but because they just hate blacks.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    GW -

    I've followed your posts, but refrained from comment until now. I think it goes without saying that your name incites strong feelings without you even having to make a statement. I don't know whether that's bad or good. It's just true.

    As to your post (and the others) above, I have some thoughts... All great leaders that I'm aware of had ideas that were put forth in such a way as to be in agreement with the needs of the population in general. Napolean, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro, and so many others.

    If we were to look just at Hitler, it would be unjustified to say that he had no good ideas, nor that some of his actions weren't for the betterment of Germany and Austria. The problem was that once someone agreed with Hitler and became a follower, then the other ideology began to filter in. After all... A few Jews, some gypsies, and who could possible care about less than perfect infants?

    I'm what might be called a constitutional right-winger. I absolutely agree with the neo-nazi blowhards about the necessity of closing our boarders to illegals. I'm sure there are other points of agreement too, but I don't support their filthy ilk and I never could. The same holds true for the KKK. God and country are wonderful ideas that I fully support and agree with. Twisted ideas about religion and skin color are disgusting.

    I'll agree with you on certain points, but I fear the agreement comes from entirely different thought processes. The Klan is rooted in twisted logic and hides behind a screen of patriotism and religion. The ideals espoused by such as yourself (assuming there is a Klan association), are not founded firmly on truth. There is just enough of it to sway a few minds, but there's not enough to sway me.

    I hope I speak for the majority when I say that even in agreement I'll remain the enemy of the Klan and any other hate-based organization. As someone previous to me said, the devil has been most successful when he's been able to make us believe he isn't.

    While I respectfully agree with some of your comments, I remain opposed to your ideals. There's always that underlying chord of hate and the forlorn wish to be superior.

    Nord
  • Jody CommanderJody Commander Member Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    YEAH! Grand Wizard, what them other fellers said!...........and Your Mommy dresses You funny TOO! So there, don't you dare come around here expressing any opinions again, unless you change your name like they do, then I think it's all right. I am proud of My views on politically explosive subjects, here are some of them:
    I am in favor of the death penalty,but not abortion,
    I'm all for womens rights, as long as My supper is not late,
    I'm all for affirmitive action, unless it takes My job,
    I'm against illegal immigrants, except the ones that work for Me,
    I hate Blacks, but I love Colin Powell,
    I hate Mexicans, except the ones that help raise My kids,
    I hate welfare,but I like crop subsidy,
    I hate foreign imports but love My Toyota truck,
    I hate the Democraps, but I vote the way the Union tells Me,
    So You see Mr.Wizard, You must become more centered with your thinking and change your name to respect the views of the folks on this board.
    May I suggest"Grand Chameleon"?
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone trying to extract a balanced and meaningful political message from a Hollywood film is deluding themselves. ALL films released from there have a liberal bias. Spike Lee could have made American History X.

    Clouder..
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Jody,.... Yer a RIOT !!
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