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Rottweilers attack boy waiting for bus; man shoots them dead

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
Rottweilers attack boy waiting for bus By MIKE GLENN Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle Two unlicensed and possibly unvaccinated Rottweilers mauled a 9-year-old Waller ISD student waiting for the school bus Wednesday morning. And, while the dogs are in custody, neighbors say they won't feel safe until both animals are destroyed. Michael Martinez, a fourth-grader at Jones Intermediate School, was taken by Life Flight helicopter to Memorial Hermann Hospital after the attack, which occurred about 6:45 a.m. in the 24000 block of Jumpin Jay Lane. Hospital officials, citing the family's wishes, would not comment about the boy's condition late Wednesday afternoon. Earlier in the day, however, they listed him in fair condition. Neighbors in the Ranch Country subdivision in northwest Harris County said Michael knew the dogs and wasn't afraid of them. "He called them over there," said Megan Watson, 11, who was also at the bus stop. "They came and then they started attacking him." The two dogs that mauled the boy -- and a third that didn't leave the yard -- were taken into custody by Harris County animal control officers. The two will either be destroyed or, if the owner still wants to keep them, they will spend at least 10 days in quarantine to ensure against rabies. If the owner chooses to keep the dogs, Harris County officials said they will likely start proceedings to have the dogs declared dangerous. Animal control officials said the owner is in violation of at least two regulations. The dogs are not registered with Harris County and were not kept in a secured enclosure. Officials were still working Wednesday to determine if the dogs had received their shots -- also required by county law. "We have no vaccination information on the animals," said Colleen Hedges, a spokeswoman for Harris County Public Health and Environmental Services. "If they had them vaccinated at a private clinic, we don't have that information." The owner could not be reached for comment. While animal control officers investigate dog bite cases almost on a daily basis, Hedges said an attack this severe usually only happens every couple of years. Ben DeSoto / Chronicle This Rottweiler, wounded after being shot by a neighbor, sits inside a Harris County animal control vehicle cage. It was one of two that attacked a boy. One case that brought national attention involved a San Francisco couple who now face involuntary manslaughter charges in the death of a woman mauled in her apartment hallway by two Canary Island mastiffs. Diane Whipple died after the attack, which occurred one year ago. Her neighbors, Marjorie Knoller and Robert Noel, were caring for the animals at the time. Megan Watson, who rides the school bus every day with Michael, witnessed Wednesday's attack. "They were just biting him and dragging him and throwing him on the ground," Megan said. "He was trying to scream but he couldn't hardly scream because they were just pounding on him." Terrified, she raced to her home screaming for help. Her home, like the home of the dogs' owner, is within a few houses of where the attack occurred. Her father grabbed his shotgun and ran back to the bus stop. "When I first got there I couldn't see anything but the dogs because they were on top of the boy," Trent Watson said. The Rottweilers then began pulling at the boy, Watson said. He told the other children to leave the area and began shouting at the dogs to divert their attention from the boy. "One came after me and I shot him," Watson said. "The next one jumped off, but then got back on the boy." Watson said he guessed that each of the dogs weighed at least 60 pounds -- about as much as Michael. He moved around to get a better shot at the other dog. "He turned toward me, and I wounded him in the leg," Watson said. One of the dogs returned to its home while the other ran away. The animal was captured a few hours later in the same subdivision. Megan said the dogs have acted friendly in the past, but now she wants them put to sleep. "I have a little sister and she likes to go outside. We both like to go outside," Megan said. "It could be one of us." Others agreed with her. "That little boy is a family friend (of the owners)," said Tracey Vancantfort. "Look what happened to him." Hedges, with Harris County Public Health and Environmental Services, said the Rottweilers now meet the two criteria to be declared legally dangerous -- the attack occurred outside their yard and it sent the victim to the hospital. In a hearing before a justice of the peace, the dogs might be destroyed if the judge deems them a threat to the public safety. However, the judge could allow the owner to keep the animals, providing she can meet an extensive series of new regulations, Hedges said. Owners of dangerous animals must maintain $100,000 in liability insurance and house the animal in a fenced-in enclosure with a concrete floor. The animals must be spayed or neutered and muzzled anytime they are off the property. "What usually happens in these situations is the owners do not want the dogs back," Hedges said. Neighbors said they have at times seen the Rottweilers roaming the area. Vancantfort let the animals stay in her garage Sunday night because of the cold weather. "We brought those two in and we pulled out a 25-pound bag of dog food, and they were just starving to death," Vancantfort said. "We felt sorry for them." Vancantfort didn't call animal control and now regrets giving the dogs back to their owner. "We were just trying to be good neighbors. Now we feel kind of bad," she said. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/1205693

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  • roshauroshau Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Rott" weilers, Pitbulls,and such as this should not be allowed to run loose. Especially when kids are around. Been my kid the animal control people would have been pickin up bloody piles of goo.
  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the owners need to be held accountable for this. They should have to pay all bills for the child and cival penalties. Dogs like rotties and pitt bulls are ok to own but the owners need to keep those particular dogs under strict control and be held liable for any damage they cause. In my opinion only licensed breeders should be allowed to have dogs of that breed "breedable". All others should be fixed, most dogs when they loose their manhood/womanhood arent near as aggressive. I say put the dogs down and treat the owners as criminals. if you want to own dogs of that caliber you need to be extra careful with them.Ownership shouldnt be outlawed, just have strict rules to follow.
    when all else fails........................
  • edharoldedharold Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    roshau You sound just like the gun control crowd.
  • EOD GuyEOD Guy Member Posts: 931
    edited November -1
    I agree with roshau that pit bulls and rottweilers should not be allowed to roam loose. But then, no dogs should be allowed to!
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not singleing out any breed either. I, however, have to admit to allowing my dog to roam in the past, in the country, he'd never hurt anyone, I'd be devastated to find that he did, much as I'm sure these people are now, think about it. He never did, and hes gone now, old age. The dog we have now just loves everyone, and I wouldnt mind leting her roam if it wasnt against the law, and I'd be amazed to know she ever hurt anyone either. I have friends with Rots. and their dogs are more loveable than mine sometimes. I believe what people are forgetting is that dogs are an animal, call it a pet if you will, but animals will do what they will, and that is why there are laws to keep people like me from haveing their dogs roaming. I dont know why people are so shocked when an attack of this kind happens, and feel the need to sensationalize the event. It happens, just like shootings. Deal with the event, punish the guilty and move on, laws are inacted to try to prevent its happening again, as best as we can, but it doesnt alway prevent tradgedy from occuring. Dont hold it against the dog, just shoot the dog and get it over with, but dont hold it against the breed. Compare what I've just said to people and guns, and you will see the light, I think.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Member Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I work for a public utility. I have seen all types of critters that people own. I was bit twice (golden lab and some ankle biter) cornered once (a Hienz 57) held in place once(german shepard).Had a Rott (big) grab my hand in its mouth, till I got his ball, then both of them wouldnt leave me alone. Had a shepard steal tools out of my pouch, then he had a great time making me fetch. Dogs act just like they have been trained. Its the person behind the pooch, just like its the person behind the gun. Shoot those dogs, arrest the owner. The story also says that the neighbors were feeding them. The dogs wern't being cared for.
  • JWolfJWolf Member Posts: 1,901
    edited November -1
    I was delivering Pizza a few years ago and I often went to unsavory neighborhoods, my manager always sent me because he knew I carried a 9mm with me. One night as I opened the gate of a yard a dog bounded around the corner, I got real still and called for the owner, he came to the door and saw what was happening. then he laughed at me and said "you better leave the pizza and go or I will sic my dog on you and have him tear out your throat" I started backing up to the gate and the man did just what he said he'd do, ordered the dog to attack, I drew and fired at the dog almost point blank, the bullet hit the dog in the bottom of the throat and travelled into it's chest killing it. The owner called the cops but he got arrested for ordering the dog to attack. I was allowed to go back to work. I know I should have called out to the house first but I don't regret shooting that dog or testifying against the guy for aggravated assault. The guy had been arrested for that same thing a year before with a different dog. The animal control disposed of that one. I agree it is the owner that is the one commiting the crime not the dog. but the owner himself wasnt the source of immediate danger the dog was. By the way this wasn't a Pit or Rott or Dobie, it was a Chow/mix
  • blazeblaze Member Posts: 233 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have owned rotts in the past & I can say my dog never harmed an individual, however my dogs were kept in a fence. but here is where my probs occured, all the neighbors had roaming dogs who didnt get fed like they should so eventually holes start appearing that was dug from outside the fence trying to get in, well my rotts kill a few of them when they come inside so I call their owners & they want me to kill my dogs because they killed theirs, now does this make sense ? especially after several warnings from me as to what was happening, not that this really relates to this story in any way, but just letting all the anti rotts know they are not a terrible breed. all in how they are raised just like people. great dog to own if they are raised/trained correctly, very loyal & protective.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't understand the use of the words "strict adherence" when one talks about either obeying the law or not. I have had different breeds of dogs over the years, and there are only two types of other dog owners -- those that are law-abiding, and those that aren't. It's easy to tell. Is the dog loose or not? Those owners that aren't in compliance always seem to have a rationalization for it. "My dog is so _____, it won't matter if I ____." You fill in the blanks with your favorite rationalization.I don't buy it. I live in a complex that allows pets, and there are dogs of all types owned here. We get along well only because everyone follows the leash law. When ANY breed gets loose, whether intentionally, by jumping the fence, or by getting away from the leash, anything can happen. In the first place, there are people who are afraid of all dogs, especially any dog running toward them. Play or attack? Second, the unleashed dog can play havoc with a normally well-behaved leashed dog. Third, the unleashed dog can be injured by getting too close to another tethered unfriendly dog. Fourth, if the dog is friendly and someone driving through likes it, you may lose your pet to a new home. Fifth, I once had a dog run over to play with mine and run circles around us in and out of the street. And of course, sixth, those of us who carry pepper spray and/or guns when walking our own pets will be inclined to repel an assault. We had a couple of black dogs move into my old neighborhood, medium to large size, and they frequently seemed to get loose, one time trapping the FedEx guy in his truck in my driveway for several minutes. I don't even know if they were Rotts, Black Labs, or mixes for sure. Another new neighbor down the street thought it was cute to let their little terrier or beagle run every so often, thinking what harm could there possibly be? Then there were the neighbors on our corner who felt they were home free because their loose pair of Scotties would never leave the yard perimeter. Welp, the black dogs would have been countered if their rampage had gone on much longer, and the little terrier might have been attacked by any larger dog who liked to chase rabbits and squirrels and break their little backs, and the Scotties might have been savaged by the first unleashed large breed to come through the yards. And I haven't even mentioned the terrible sound I heard one night on the road nearby of screeching brakes and a dog's short scream. Dogs that are normally fine with people may not be exceptionally social with all other dogs, or vice versa. The whole mess means to me that "strict adherence" to leash and containment laws has nothing to do with breed, size or mix, and my pepper spray is not only for Rotts or Pit Bulls, if you catch the drift.The thing is, the law always favors the contained dog and goes against the dog off the leash. If you have any sort of problem, the lack of the leash puts that owner in the wrong, virtually automatically. Anyone who doubts this should not waste time arguing the point with me, but call their local shelters or officials for corroboration.Sorry if this comes off a bit rough, but I've hit two dogs with my car in my lifetime and I regret both memories enough to hope I never see another dog "playing" loose near the road. Even a normally smart dog will chase another animal into the road. Trust me.
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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last year I had a problem with one lady who AB-SOL-UTE-LY refused to put her ankle bitter poodle on a leash. Every time I would leave for work, she and the rapid rat would be outside waiting for me. The nasty little critter would growl and bark at me and each time I would remind her that she needed to put him on a leash before he bit someone. She would say "He's just a little dog, does he scare you that much?". One day the little * grabbed a mouth full of my 400 hundred-dollar suit and that was it. I reeled back with all the force I could muster and punted the little mongrel 10 or 20 feet smack into a brick wall. The lady went ballistic. She nearly swung at me, and told me how I'd better be ready to pay when she sues me and how her boyfriend will kill me when she tells him. I told her that it was good she was going to call her lawyer, because I was going to do the same. Upon arriving home the dog and lady (I use this term loosely) were waiting for me. The mutt had toilet paper or gauze wrapped around its ribcage, some ploy for sympathy. She apologized several times and said how she had decided not to press charges since it was her fault and how she would pay for the repair bill, etc. The days after she paid for the repair bill, guess who was out roaming around without a leash again? It was kind of strange though. The little rat didn't make a sound as it crouched into a fetal position as I walked right by him. I guess dogs learn faster than people...[This message has been edited by thesupermonkey (edited 01-16-2002).]
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HERE FU***NG GOES, I have a 155lb, (all muscle) Rottweiler. He never has shown the least bit of aggression toward anyone. If you raise them right, they are good dogs. The reason for the excess damage is due to the fact that the dog is a large breed and they are strong. Ever seen a chihuahua attack it's toy? it shakes the crap out of it!!! Now if that were a Rotty, you would say "look how mean he is", but the chihuahua "just loves his little toy". If they are raised correctly, they are great dogs. My wife and I play like we are fighting and he pushes himself between us to get us apart. They don't like fighting within the pack. The responsibility rests upon the owner, not the dog. The dog (unless in-bred) is not prone to aggression. The owner through neglect, beating, training, etc makes it that way. I don't like pit bulls because I have seen WAY TOO MUCH in-breeding in the ones around here. They ARE prone to violence. I would love to roll up on the dog fights outside of town and get right inside, then, BOOOOOOMx30. These a**holes need killin! people and dogs included.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "As the twig is bent, so grows the tree." 95% of all dog problems are because of poor, or intentionally aggresive training. End of story.
  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like dogs, but if one attacks me or mine it is dead.
    PC=BS
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if I came off too harsh? Hmmmmm...If it were my kid, I would have dropped the dog too!
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    JustC,"If they are raised correctly, they are great dogs... The responsibility rests upon the owner, not the dog... The owner through neglect, beating, training, etc makes it that way.""I don't like pit bulls because I have seen WAY TOO MUCH in-breeding in the ones around here. They ARE prone to violence."Which is it?
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While parking a motorcycle in a gunshop parking lot, one of the owners' four German Shorthairs bit me on the thigh. It didnt seem to bother the owner much. Over the years I've had numerous dogs come out of nowhere, wanting to eat me off the motorcycle and almost wrecking me.Some years ago up at a small airport, I was twice grabbed in the buttocks at night and menaced during the day by the owners' Shepard. One of the skydivers finally shot it but the owned believed it was me since I had complained about the dog.I view most dogs as loose cannons with a small brain. It should be the obligation on the part of dog owners to make accommodations in safeguarding the public and not the other way around.Your enjoyment of your dog should not be at my expense or risk.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    supermonkey, The raising and relative good natured quote was pertaining to the Rotweilers as a breed and not the Pit bull. Although I have heard of some nice one's I still don't trust em. The Quote reguarding the in-breeding was aimed at the pit bull breed exclusively. There are too many dog fights around my area. Sorry for the confusion. Rotts=good Pits=bad Just my opinion and no matter what the argument for the pits, and by whom, it will not change. I don't trust them at all.
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