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Central AC/Heater inop. HELP!!!

mystrymanmystryman Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Ok Everyone,
My dog "border collie puppy chewed the outside AC unit 24 volt wires. I repaired them and still nothing will come on. No outside unit or inside blower at all. I did test the transformer and it only has 16 volts coming out instead of 24. Thermostat is clicking like its working but nothing will come on?
Suggestions please!!!!

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  • BikerBobBikerBob Member Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You probably checked that the splices were good, so...

    Are your getting 220 to the unit ahead of the relay?

    Does the relay get voltage when the thermostat clicks on?

    Does the furnace fan start when the fan switch is switched to on?
  • mystrymanmystryman Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    it got too dark to check for 220 outside. the complete system is down. no inside blower or if I switch to heat nothing happens. no heat, no ac no blower inside or outside on the unit. all breaker are fine.
  • kshotxkshotx Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's possible that there is a blown fuse on the control board in the blower compartment, usually spade type to protect the system/stat from shorted 24 volt. that would cause it to not operate in heat or cool mode
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it is a 24 volt system and you are measuring 16 at the transformer you have a large voltage drop across something or the transformer is bad. I would disconnect the leads on the low voltage side and read it, if you have 24 there than check for a short or bad connection on the wire side, if still only 16 volts at teh transformer sounds like a transformer issue.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We had chipmunks chew through the wire once. I spliced it and had a similar problem. Turned out there was one spot that did not look damaged, but was shorting inside the insulation. I went ahead and pulled a whole new cable, problem solved.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,531 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    We had chipmunks chew through the wire once. I spliced it and had a similar problem. Turned out there was one spot that did not look damaged, but was shorting inside the insulation. I went ahead and pulled a whole new cable, problem solved.


    Had the same thing just happen on a submersible well. Pump was not bad but the wire going down to it was.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kshotx
    It's possible that there is a blown fuse on the control board in the blower compartment, usually spade type to protect the system/stat from shorted 24 volt. that would cause it to not operate in heat or cool mode
    if you have no power at all probably a blown fuse on the board. I don't know much about these things but I did sleep at a holiday Inn last night.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It should be a 3 amp fuse.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why would that stop the air handler from running??

    If you click the thermostat to "fan", does the air handler work? I.E. do you hear air being sucked into the return vent? and air being blown out of the ducts?
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Learn something new every day, I would not have thought the blower fuse would have kept the transformer from showing the correct voltage, go figure.

    If he doesn't have the low voltage to close the contacts on the fan relay the indoor fan won't run. He has already said he has 16 volts on the low voltage side which means he has voltage on the high voltage side. Since the only thing that happened was the puppy chewed the low voltage wires he has a short in the repair causing the voltage drop or the transformer has been damaged (which I think is unlikely) since he is getting 16 volts.

    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    why would that stop the air handler from running??

    If you click the thermostat to "fan", does the air handler work? I.E. do you hear air being sucked into the return vent? and air being blown out of the ducts?
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • mystrymanmystryman Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BINGO to kshotx and Oakie.....3 amp fuse on the blower circuit board. [:D][:D][:D]
    Thank you ALL for the advice.
    Damn dog......I still love him though. Hes a good dog that just got bored.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98
    Learn something new every day, I would not have thought the blower fuse would have kept the transformer from showing the correct voltage, go figure.

    If he doesn't have the low voltage to close the contacts on the fan relay the indoor fan won't run. He has already said he has 16 volts on the low voltage side which means he has voltage on the high voltage side. Since the only thing that happened was the puppy chewed the low voltage wires he has a short in the repair causing the voltage drop or the transformer has been damaged (which I think is unlikely) since he is getting 16 volts.

    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    why would that stop the air handler from running??

    If you click the thermostat to "fan", does the air handler work? I.E. do you hear air being sucked into the return vent? and air being blown out of the ducts?



    By blower, do you mean the air handler or the fan on the heat pump??

    I know little to nothing of electricity, so I can't make sense of your explanation. Electricity (voltage) is something I have never taken the time to learn[V]
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