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Aggressive tread tires or AT tires??

JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
I need new tires for my 03' suburban and am trying to decide if the aggressive tread "mud grip" style tires would be a good idea for hunting season etc or should I stick with the Dueler AT tires that gave me a great ride over the old goodyears I used to run. I know they will be loud, but assuming I keep them rotated, how will the ride be with the more aggressive tread design?? I drive this truck daily if that matters.
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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Loud.
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  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Goodyear Silent Armor Pro grade 10 ply in my 2011 Tundra with over 35K miles and have served me very on the Montana wilderness going through mud, deep snow, ice, and gravel/rocks without any problems.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am running Bridgestone Dueler AT tires right now, and they have been by far, much smoother riding and handle better than the previous 2 sets of Goodyears. I figure I knew already about the aggressive tread design, and should probably pass on them since I use this truck on the highway a lot. Off road is only really during hunting season etc.
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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't like Goodyear at all. Michelin for me. I'll have to check to see if I have the AT as I don't recall.
    What's next?
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    On the 78 Ramcharger that we got new came with Seiberling mud treads, when worn replaced with BFG AllTerrain which had a different tread than I see now; when worn, replaced with Bridgestone Duelers. they were quieter and marginally smother but on ice, the best of the bunch was the AT. Presently on the F-350 I have BFG Krawlrs that are 37 x12. They are great on anything in a straight line but not designed for turning. On ice, I just chain-up.
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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is your primary use? If you use the vehicle on pavement 95% of the time are you going to bet M/T tires for the 5% usage?

    BFGs are excellent tires, the A/T KO2s are very expensive though, look at the Rugged Terrain. My Tahoe Z71 came with Bridgestone Dueler AT RHS. They ride nice and have good road manners, can't really speak to their "off road" manners. I've had Goodyear Duratracs and they were horrendous, especially on the highway at highway speed they did not track well (which is a common complaint).

    If you drive in a lot of snow M/T tires not recommended. BFG ATs are service rated for snow and ice unless you get into sizes about 33".
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  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is the truck 4WD or rear only?
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  • FEENIXFEENIX Member Posts: 10,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    I am running Bridgestone Dueler AT tires right now, and they have been by far, much smoother riding and handle better than the previous 2 sets of Goodyears. I figure I knew already about the aggressive tread design, and should probably pass on them since I use this truck on the highway a lot. Off road is only really during hunting season etc.


    I used to have the same tires in my 1993 Suburban, it was excellent on and off road except the thread did not last that long in the rough Montana off roads.
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  • minitruck83minitruck83 Member Posts: 5,369
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk


    Remember, skinny deep lug tires will get you out of more 'stuff' than just about any other tire (except sand)




    Yeah, the old 30x3 and a half's didn't stop for anything. [:D]
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is what I'm putting on my F150 when the current Goodyear Wrangler SRA's wear out. LT 275/65R18 123\120S load range E

    http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Discoverer-A-TW.aspx

    or these

    http://mastercrafttires.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Courser-AXT.aspx

    Almost the same tire....both made by Cooper. I am more worried about winter driving than I am off-roading, but they do have a somewhat aggressive tread pattern for what little I do get off the beaten track.
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You will kill mileage with mudder tires. Rolling resistance is sky high, rides are rough and tread life questionable.

    Stick with AT's and use chains when off roading past where the tow truck cable and chain can reach you.
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  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stick with the bridgestone AT the more aggressive tires are noisy and will negativly affect MPG...
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,514 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    Here is what I'm putting on my F150 when the current Goodyear Wrangler SRA's wear out. LT 275/65R18 123\120S load range E

    http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Discoverer-A-TW.aspx

    or these

    http://mastercrafttires.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Courser-AXT.aspx

    Almost the same tire....both made by Cooper. I am more worried about winter driving than I am off-roading, but they do have a somewhat aggressive tread pattern for what little I do get off the beaten track.


    Thanks for the links. The Coopers would work on the dually. 50K mile tread wear.. I doubt that. Best I have done on it is 42K and they were bald. Even with Michelins.. I have Firestones on it now.
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Stick with the bridgestone AT"

    I found them basically worthless in snow or even minor muddy spots.

    My first choice for snow and mud has turned out to be dangerous on two lane pavements with "truck ruts" such as we have here in north MO. The tire is great in snow and slick roads BUT it will ride up on the edges of the pavement ruts. The vehicle (K3500) will veer across the centerline or head for the ditch w/o warning. I've had it in the line-up shop and nothing wrong with the pickup-just the tires.
    Beware of a moderately aggressive tire with sharp edged lugs in the outer treadface. A staggered edge pattern is less likely to have these problems.
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    Here is what I'm putting on my F150 when the current Goodyear Wrangler SRA's wear out. LT 275/65R18 123\120S load range E

    http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Discoverer-A-TW.aspx

    or these

    http://mastercrafttires.com/Tires/Light-Truck/Courser-AXT.aspx

    Almost the same tire....both made by Cooper. I am more worried about winter driving than I am off-roading, but they do have a somewhat aggressive tread pattern for what little I do get off the beaten track.


    Thanks for the links. The Coopers would work on the dually. 50K mile tread wear.. I doubt that. Best I have done on it is 42K and they were bald. Even with Michelins.. I have Firestones on it now.


    You're welcome. American made, too!

    I have no idea how the tread will wear with my driving habits. My tires (and brakes) generally last longer than most people's and longer than the manufacturer's guarantee.
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  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    did not notice till later when i bought 4 new goodyear tires for my trailer....right on sidewall...MADE IN CHINA....asked for AMERICAN made and 6 ply ..these were 5 ply rags..i grew up in family service station and sold umpteen gy tires back then, but these were the last for me, had checked at nearby bigger town and 3 brands were made in costa rica
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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cooper AT3.

    cooper_discoverer_AT3.png
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  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any tire on that Suburban should be "LT"'s....mine are 10 ply Michleins, and they work just fine..on or off rd....
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    Cooper AT3.

    cooper_discoverer_AT3.png


    This was another tire in the running, but the A/TW is better in the snow and ice. Since I drive on snow and ice 4+ months of the years, I thought it was a better choice
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I put more aggressive treads on my Tundra JustC. They were also slightly over sized. MPG decreased noticeably, though I have not noticed any increase noise nor roughness to the already stiff ride. I can live with the decrease for better mountain and desert traction, though the time percentage is probably not over 15%, because that 15% is often a long hike in places were cell phone coverage is scant.
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  • EhlerDaveEhlerDave Member Posts: 5,158 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was working a very cute Goodyear lady stopped in our office, when she left we had new tires for all the tucks. Owner was single. [:)]

    Now I never had a problem before with Goodyear tires, but had not used them off road like our where our work trucks spent 90% of their life. Most of the tires failed for the same reasons, gashes in the sidewalls. Cant repair them and sure is hard to drive on the flats.
    Just smile and say nothing, let them guess how much you know.
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  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my experience, unless you're going to be in deep soup on a regular basis the AT type tires are a better option. In reality a good all season tire will take care of practically all of the situations you find hunting and fishing. For those rare instances when a good mud grip tire would help I can usually find another way to do what needs done.

    You said this is your daily driver, IMO that leave the mud tires off the list of options. Ride and gas mileage trump the rare need to sling mud higher than your buddy.
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  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    Any tire on that Suburban should be "LT"'s....mine are 10 ply Michleins, and they work just fine..on or off rd....


    I ran a set of those 130,000 miles on my 150, of course they should have been swapped at 100,000. The only reason I am not running them now is because I didn't have the cash to get a set when I needed new tire (also why they went 130K). Running Coopers right now.

    I went through all the mud and snow that was thrown at me with the LT's. Even the black gumbo in South Dakota and mud tracks in the Tetons. There were a few times in the the black mud in SD I would have preferred more aggressive tread, but I still went were I wanted.
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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,689 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have purchased an AT variant of Deans Tires for probably 20 years, but the last tire change I could not find any locally and went with a U.S. made Toyo Open Country. The tread is slightly more aggressive than that shown on the Cooper above, but the tires are fairly quiet on the road.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

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  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've tried just about every brand of tire made over the past 49 years since I've been buying tires and in my opinion Michelin is the best tire made. They're expensive up front but in the long run they're cheaper. They don't get hard with age and get noisy and they can be balanced until they're completely worn out. It's the only tires I buy today.
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  • scooterdriverscooterdriver Member Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    MICHELIN LTX M/S2...not cheap, but ride quiet, good mileage, last for a bunch of miles, good in the snow, reasonable in the mud, poor in the sand.
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  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scooterdriver
    MICHELIN LTX M/S2...not cheap, but ride quiet, good mileage, last for a bunch of miles, good in the snow, reasonable in the mud, poor in the sand.


    They're pretty nice looking too.


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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Stick with the bridgestone AT the more aggressive tires are noisy and will negativly affect MPG...


    Agreed. Took mine off the Expedition because I couldn't hear the radio unless it was way up. MPG went down also. Good Call Wpage
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yes it is a 99% pavement vehicle since it is my primary transportation. I almost got stuck after a monster rainstorm, at the hunting property. But with judicious back-and-forth motions, I was able to come out of it. The Dueler AT's make it ride like nice car, they just aren't a mud and snow tire. I guess when I go to it being my second vehicle (fun truck with lift kit etc etc[:p]) I can go with aggressive tires. Unfortunately for right now, I have to be a responsible adult[V]

    there is always next time..[;)]
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