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How far would some go?

daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
edited March 2002 in General Discussion
If tomorrow, it was announced that all guns had to be registered by law - how many 2nd amendment beleivers would refuse in America to abide by this ilegal law? Would there be riots? Would the government be forced to reverse the law due to non-compliance or would there not be enough Americans refusing to do so, and it would be all over! Are Americans still fighters?
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....there I was, transporting all my guns across the lake in a boat when suddenly it tipped over and they all sank to the bottom of the lake.....that's my story and I'm sticking to it....
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  • arthur wellingarthur welling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't understand.What guns?
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This fellow won't register. You know that they will come looking for the guns that they already have a record of that may be in your possession. I kind of figure if things get to that point then it may not be fit to live in this once fine country anymore and, probably, when they come to get mine they may get the ammunition first. But until confiscation, I really don't know what happened to all those guns officer, I think Mrs. Gunpaq threw them out one time when she was mad at me.
    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.[This message has been edited by gunpaq (edited 03-18-2002).]
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Huh? I don't got no guns.
    PC=BS
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    If they ask: I never bought one.If they can prove I did: I sold em privately a long time ago.If they ask to search my house: No, you cant. And dont force the issue, bub.If they do it anyway: I'll pull a SaxonPig style re-enactment of the Alamo, and let the coroner pick 9mm rounds out of mine, and 7.62 NATO rounds out of theirs.End of Story.Just remember this: After the soapbox, the ballot box, and the jury box, there is only the cartridge box.
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  • BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
    edited November -1
    Sold all of mine at a gun show - damn loopholes!!!!!!!!!
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  • skipjackoneskipjackone Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What? A guy from KY with guns. Heck officer, I'm afraid of stuff that goes bang.
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  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    If you can find it it is yours. If you can not it never existed. Then again if the 2nd amendment goes so will all the rest.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have considered the fact that it would be easier to find my guns if I bought them from in-town dealers where 4473s are stored in the same locale, and I have certainly bought some guns privately, over the net and at gun shows, depending upon who has got what I want. The more I think about the issue the more I like the private purchase and the gun show and the net, where either there are no papers or they are very far away. I have in fact sold a gun from time to time through a classified ad and while I generally ask for a look at a driver licence or a gun permit I don't keep records of what's been sold. As I understand the transfer system in Indiana, it's still optional, for those concerned about records of the sale. I may be wrong. In any case, it could be that I would have a change of heart, put all my guns in a box in the car to take them in to sell, then while running in to the drug store for a sec', they disappear from the back seat, darn it. That's the trouble with this whole scenario. You'd be potentially criminalizing so many Americans that you'd have more investigations to do than they had when kids were dodging the draft. Besides, any gun with a 4473 in some shop for 20 years, and an entry in a 'bound book,' is already registered and serial number recorded, so there's no point in further registration except to go through some motions for the gun-grabbers. They don't need me to register most of my guns -- all they need is every 4473 in the country in one computer database. But of course that wouldn't give them granddad's .32 Mauser 1934, which would tick the heck out of Sarah Brady, I suppose.
    "The 2nd Amendment is about defense, not hunting. Long live the gun shows, and reasonable access to FFLs. Join the NRA -- I'm a Life Member."
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  • BoltactionManBoltactionMan Member Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think they were all stolen.No wait...Maybe I sold them to some guy.Or..No, No...that's it, I remember now. I lent them to some people and they never brought 'em back. Those bastards!KC
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let's see . . . Canada has 10% or less the population of the US. It has had some form of comparatively strict registration for something like 70 years. Now that the northern branch of the Gestapo is attempting to register / seize the remaining "legal" weapons in private hands, the compliance rate is less than 50%. Sure, the same plan should work here where there are something like 200,000,000 firearms in private hands *that they know of* and the population is *so* much more docile . . . . Uh-huh. Our rights won't be overturned in a dramatic action, but by a slow war of attrition . . . and only if we allow the mushbrains to do it. As in, for example, boycotting elections because no candidate totally embraces our positions . . . . Come to think of it, perhaps it is not as absurd as it sounds . . . .
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Great answeres but......- If they had a search warrant would they find them? What would be the use in keeping them if you had to sneek around at night just to get to touch them? Do you have a good place to hide them? Don't give locations - just yea or nay!I say YEA!ARE WE BEING WATCHED?
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    My worst nightmare. A knock at the door, I open it up, and there stands Janet Reno with a flame thrower, asking for my guns.They'll have to fight me for mine.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    better hide them good and deep...Iv'e been told that the gov. has the means to see metalic Items as far as 15 feet under ground from satelite positions...
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • East BayEast Bay Member Posts: 98 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know they did that in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia a couple of years ago... Passed a law to grandfather register the assault weapons (in 1998?) & expected 2.5 million to 3.5 million to show up. Fewer than 12,000 weapons were registered. Duh.... Senatorettes Bullyboxer & Fieldberg were not happy with the less than compliant subjects in their kingdom... vowed to make it Federal to stop those gun nuts in Ky & TX from selling to the noncompliant subjects in their kingdoms. After all, you can't tell about those noncompliant ones....
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lowrider, that is NOT your worst nightmare; your worst nightmare is: You open the door and there stands Janet Reno, naked, asking for your guns. Heck, you'd hand 'em over before you knew what hit you!Well, at least some of mine have no paper trail anywhere, anytime...
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  • hunter280manhunter280man Member Posts: 705 ✭
    edited November -1
    Well I have to sympathize with Lord Lowrider if the "Reno thing" ever happens, hell that could ruin any good man! Now for myself... "can you say cos-mo-line?" I thought you could.
    Though I was born to royalty, I was snatched at birth, so treat me as the noble I am!!!
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  • davcondavcon Member Posts: 139 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He dog if Janet Reno showed up at my door naked asking for my guns she could have them. I would drop dead from fright! Even worse that, Reno and Rosie O'Donnel on my doorstep naked. Excuse me, the thought of this is making me sick. I have to throw up now.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    reno and rosie nekkid? O'ROURK, BUICK.
    PC=BS
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  • old single shotsold single shots Member Posts: 3,594
    edited November -1
    If We The People let it get to that point,where we have to bury and hide our guns to keep them,what will be the sense?If you were to use one,even in the defense of your home or family,you would be a criminal in the eyes of the law.What the people in this country have to do is Not Let this happen.There are millions of gun owners who do Nothing to prevent this.The ones that will not support pro gun groups and who don't vote,don't deserve to own guns.
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    There are to many gun owners that are complacent and think registering or seizue will never happen, or they do not have a problem with registering their guns. These are the people that we need to get the word out to and convince them of the dangers facing gun ownership. If there are truly 200,000,000 guns in the United States the membership of the N.R.A. should stand at about 50,000,000 instead of where it is today...I know which of my guns have a paper trail and what ones do not, That is all I care to elaborate on the subject.
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you want to know how bad it might get, think Waco and Ruby Ridge. Think about your wife and kids. Brave talk now is great, but if the crunch comes, who knows?If there are really 200,000,000 functional firearms in the country (defined as when you pull the trigger, the odds are greatly in favor of a successful shot instead of nothing or a kaboom), I think probably 10,000,000 people own half of them, about 50,000,000 own the rest. A lot of those 50,000,000 are probably like Carl Rowan, the liberal, anti-gun commentator who just happened to have one illegally hidden away in his home which he used to scare off an intruder. http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/leaflets/rowan.html
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  • YankeeClipperYankeeClipper Member Posts: 669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think a person would be supprised at how many would say OK. Look how the rank and file are acting about airport security. "Take anything you want just make me safe". If you point out atrosities in the political,justice or tax system most will shake their heads and agree. How many will take a stand?
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  • Submariner .Submariner . Member Posts: 165 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    THEY WONT GET MINE!IF I GOTTA PACK'EM IN GREASE AND HIDE THEM IN A LAKE.WITH ALL THIS TALK I HAVENT SEEN ANY POSTS (MYSELF INCLUDED)ON WHAT WERE GOING TO DO IN THE 2002 MID TERM ELECTIONS.YALL DO REALIZE THE PEOPLE WE ELECT THIS NEXT ELECTION ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO RE-PASS THE BRADY BILL AND THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN-VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION UPCOMING
    Truck Driver,Submarine Veteran,Rusty Wallace fan,and piss poor typist E-MAIL WNUNLEY@USIT.NET
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  • imadorkimadork Member Posts: 147 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The main thing that I see preventing resistance is thinking of one's family. Even for someone like me, who has no spouse or kids, it's a long shot as to whether I would want to pull an "Alamo" against the ATF/FBI/Police in my area. Imagine yourself for a second dying from the 9mm hollowpoints after you take a few of the jack-booted thugs with you, and think about how your spouses and kids would feel-- unless you want them to resist and get shot too. It's easy to say "live free or die" but so far there haven't been many Ruby Ridge incidents to back it up. Not that I would have the balls to do the same, but to me that indicates that 99% of gun owners would grudgingly decommission or surrender their registered weapons when the SWAT team shows up at 3am to serve a search warrant. So it's important to never register. But if you have to shoot someone in your house and all you have are unregistered weapons, you're screwed anyway. In my lifetime, I see a complete ban on handguns happening. Already in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boston, and other wealthy urban areas, you find city ordinances being enacted retroactively prohibiting the possession of such evil assault weapons as the M1A and Mini-14, and even requiring the destruction of any of these weapons found anywhere in city limits, even your home. God help you if you're in these cities and you save a police officer's life with the Mossberg 590 shotgun kept in your trunk-- it holds more than 6 shots! Listen to the words of Sen. Feinstein, who has *publicly* said "if I could have gotten 51 votes in the senate, I would have had all assault weapons handed over to the police." If someone like her can get elected now, think of 50 years from now. Which is why I'll contribute as much as I can to the cause-- financially and in my community as well once I finish school. I'll be honest. Before I knew all the facts, I was skeptical of the gun-rights crowd. Now that I know the laws and own firearms myself, I'm a believer too. Still, I don't know if I want to become a martyr for the cause, and this doubt is strengthening the anti-gun crowd significantly.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't say I want the wife and kids shot. I will send them out first, unless they choose to stay. Then we can see what developes. I would like to think I could count on several aquaintances to help with the situation but who knows. I will say that I will not register and will not turn them over. If I have to re-hide them once/day, I will do so and keep denying they exist. If it came down to a standoff, I guess I would make the decision then, but, I do however feel that there are many groups who ARE prepared to fight. These are the most militant groups who would also be the first targeted. The standoffs and firefights arising from this would quickly sway the nation to be on their side when the pictures of the citizens being unjustly fired upon by the government that the sheeple felt was their protector were released.
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