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.264 Win Mag?
Nighthawk
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A Officer I work with has a Remington Model 700 .264 Win Mag 95% condition with a nice Burris scope, sling and 3 boxes of shells. He offered to sale me the gun for $275.00. I really like the ballistics but of course no one has ammo for it at this time. Another Trooper told me the gun was almost obsolete and shells were always hard to find unless you load your own. He said the caliber never really took off to hunters. No one else seems to know much about this gun? Is it one of those thats slowly becoming a dieing cartridge? Can anyone give me advice about this gun, I really like to buy calibers I dont have and this seems like a good deal. I really appreciate any and all advice info.
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Look at it this way, you can't find just the Remington M700 action alone for $275.00 anywhere. For the same price, you're getting the barrel, bottom metal, stock, trigger, scope, sling and ammunition! I too suggest that you buy it and be happy with your bargain.
As to the ammunition, you can reload or trade product/services with someone who will reload for you. The .264 Win. Mag. is an excellent cartridge in its own right. The influx of newer cartridges, powders and bullets have pushed it to the rear and out of the realm of the public interest. Like all cyclical things, it too will return when the pendulum swings back again.
Best.
Ammo is available. The 264 Westerner is as flat shooting a rifle as you can find. The speed is rough on barrels so if you handload consider taming it down a bit for varmints. For Deer and elk, let 'er rip.
Oh yea, the muzzle blast will knock hats off spectators within 30 yards.[:D]
Clouder..
You can find the brass. I would buy it immediately.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Ammo can be hard to come by, but if you reload, brass is available, as are a good selection of bullets from all the makers.
It can be a little tough on barrels, just like all high intensity chamberings, but adequate barrel cooling and cleaning will remedy most of that.
I used www.ammoengine.com
to find it. Lots easier to find 264 than the common calibers--At least right now.[;)]
You made a great choice. I think we will be seeing lots more interest on the not so popular calibers in the future. This will be driven strictly by the availability of ammo . I see smart gunshop owners stashing a little ammo for each weapon they have on the shelf. The first words from each new sale will most likely be is."got any AMMO for it?"
A little history on the 264 Winchester mag, I've owned one for years and love it, read what Graig Boddington says about it. The 264 was introduced in 1959, three years befor the 7mm Rem mag, and four years befor the 300 Win mag. Two things, in my opinion contributed to the 264s never realy becoming popular, they need a 26" barrel to live up to thier potential, and back in the day there wasn't a good selection of good 6.5mm (264) bullets available. Another contributing factor is short barrel life, especialy if they where overheated. The 264 when using 140gr bullets has one of the best coefficients of any magnum round, belted or not. It is a flat shooting hard hitting round, especialy with todays bullets.
For what it's worth.
W.D.
AT
.264 is an outstanding cartridge that truly shines, even with less than max loads.
I don't know whether or not Delstar still does the Blackstar barrel treatment. If they still do it's money well spent on something like the .264 Win Mag.
Remington has reintroduced the 264win mag intheir sendero's a year or two ago,.which means they will no doubt be offereing ammo.
If you handload, you can neck down 7mm mag brass.
You have a $500 9mm pistol, you better have $1000 worth of ammo.
Gee, nowadays, whats that, about 50 rounds?
If you handload, you can neck down 7mm mag brass.
Fraid not, the shoulder is to far back on the 7mm mag. The 300 Win Mag is iffy also since the body diameter just below the shoulder isn't big enough. You can often get case collapse between the bottom of the shoulder and where the body diameter reaches .491"
According to RCBS the 300H&H is the best case for reforming.
quote:Originally posted by JustC
If you handload, you can neck down 7mm mag brass.
Fraid not, the shoulder is to far back on the 7mm mag. The 300 Win Mag is iffy also since the body diameter just below the shoulder isn't big enough. You can often get case collapse between the bottom of the shoulder and where the body diameter reaches .491"
According to RCBS the 300H&H is the best case for reforming.
it's called a false shoulder, and it will form just fine.[;)]
The H&H brass I presume?
I have yet to use the RCBS case forming die set so I'm not that familiar with case forming.
Still have about twenty pounds of virgin Win 264 brass as well as 200 rounds of factory cartridges to go, once I deplete the 150 cases I'm using now.
Love my .264 Prairie dogs hate it though.
quote:it's called a false shoulder, and it will form just fine.[;)]
The H&H brass I presume?
I have yet to use the RCBS case forming die set so I'm not that familiar with case forming.
Still have about twenty pounds of virgin Win 264 brass as well as 200 rounds of factory cartridges to go, once I deplete the 150 cases I'm using now.
Love my .264 Prairie dogs hate it though.
no use the 7mm mag brass. It is the same theory as fireforming ackley improved brass when blowing out the body taper. Because the shoulder is further back,..you create a "false shoulder" via the neck (size down only a portion of the neck and leave the rest unsized) when entered into the chamber, that fatter part of the neck makes contact as if the shoulder were actually doing it. This holds it in place not allowing it to move fwd upon firing pin strike, and therefore when ignition takes place, the case body blows out to meet the chamber, and the "new" case has been formed. A lot of guys with 264wins have been doing this since they were all but discontinued and brass was scarce and expensive.
Look up fireforming a Gibbs cartridge from the parent cartridge,..an explanation of false shoulder should be in the description.
then again, I havn't looked at an H&H case, so that may be an option as well. However, I think remington should have it in production since they have chambered some sendero's in that chambering recently.