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Anybody else fed up with baseball?

E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
Not again..what now?I dont even know what they are striking over this time but its still rediculous.It cant be because they dont make enough money and you figure you get paid milions + you might want to do your job.They strike as much as laid off workers and they still have their jobs.When will this BSstop?Just play the game do your job collect your money and stop B*TCHING.Sorry but I just dont understand.

Eric S. Williams

Edited by - E.Williams on 08/17/2002 00:22:44
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd be very surprised if they do strike....after the backlash from the last time and the fact that they will have to pay the networks for any lost revenues on games cancelled due to a strike...it would be one of the biggest blunders they could make.
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  • TazmuttTazmutt Member Posts: 862 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im basically fed up with ALL sports and try hard not to watch them and NEVER buy anything I believe "athletes" will profit from. Even NASCAR is getting ridiculous and the media is ruining it !

    I dont watch tv, read the paper, listen to the radio. I work, hunt, fish, play with dead animals (more work), cruise in my boat and sleep occasionally.
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  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I quit watching sports about 6 years ago..I do not let my kids watch a bunch of stupid men getting paid way to much..and then they gripe and bellyache about more money..Then you see them in court and getting away with god only knows what..My kids will not have these guy's as role models..Call me a bum i don't care they are not like they used to be...( look at the little kid from harlem pointing where he's going to hit the ball and then jumping like sammy sosa..Gets on base and starts hollering thats what im talking about )POOR SPORTMANSHIP I WOULD HAVE BENCHED HIS BUTT QUICK AND THEN MAdE HIM GO TO OTHER TEAM AND BEG FORGIVENESS) JMHO

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    Edited by - harleeman1030 on 08/17/2002 00:32:05
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw alittle while ago wher they sset their strike date and one of the players was talikng abut how they need to be back on the field before September 11th because of how important a day it is to America so he HOPES the big wigs will meet the players demands so they can be back in time...what BS!

    Eric S. Williams
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its getting to the point now that the only sports I take interest in seeing is World Rally,Bike GP,Ultimate Fighting and Boxing.Im starting to get dis-illusioned with boxing ever since they started painting fighters backs with dot com web addresses.

    Eric S. Williams
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  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess I am one of the few on the board that loves major league baseball. I will be disappointed to see them strike but my team (mets) aren't doing good any way so the season is a loss anyways in my eyes. As far as the negotiations, I tend to side with the players a bit. I believe Selig and the owners are lying their * off about losing all that money. It was just another bargaining deal to get the players to back down. Being from Wisconsin I do see a problem with the way that the MLB is set up. Look at the Brewers who haven't made it to the post season since before I was BORN! (1982). Then there are teams like the Yankees that can go and spend 100 million dollars to field an all star team every year. The NFL isn't like that and look how packed the stadiums are there. Baseball has some huge problems to settle and I think a strike may be the only way they can solve it. Just pray that the fans come back......
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If they strike, baseball is HISTORY. They already have lower ratings than professional wrestling! (true!)

    They can all jump off a cliff, for all I care. They are raping people who want to go to a baseball game, and getting paid millions by the local governments (who they force to build new stadiums for them for FREE!)

    Good riddance, I say.

    Merc



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  • 4wheeler4wheeler Member Posts: 3,441
    edited November -1
    I USE TO LOVE TO WATCH ALL SPORTS BUT THEY TRADE TEAMS,CARS,ETC. SO OFTEN IT IS OBSCENE.

    "It was like that when I got here".
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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I used to be a big baseball fan and used to be on the ground crew of the Atlanta Braves. They lost me in the strike of '94, of course I had to sneak back as a fan in '95 when the Braves won the World Series. But since then I have not watched any baseball. In '94 the player reps kept saying that it wasn't about money, but it was about the pension fund for the future players. Well, that is money. If I were paid $1 million a year I could figure out my own pension fund. All strikes are about money and these pampered millionares are so out of touch with the fans, out here working every day to make 30 and 50 thousand a year. Screw them all, I hope they strike and the game is destroyed.

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  • Patrick OdlePatrick Odle Member Posts: 951 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I quit them the first time around. and for years I saw the upper deck empty, aprox. 10% in the second deck and only the choice spots filled in the lower deck. Never felt one bit of sympathy for the players making multi millions who out of pure greed deprived their loyal fans of their presense on the field. I have never went back and never will. Like other sports once degraded they will never ever again attain their original prominience and if time permits will eventually erase themselves. I Hope they go under. You can never cut off your nose to spite your face.
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As others have said, it's not just baseball. Big money and TV have ruined all pro sports. I don't know how the average guy around here (Indy) could take a family of 4 to a Colt or Pacer game.

    cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Don't follow baseball, and couldn't care less if they play, strike or drop dead. As long as people keep paying the outrageous ticket prices for these games, the players will continue to expect and demand more and more money. Once the fans get fed up enough, and the stadiums are empty on game day, maybe things will change. Or maybe then the team owners will just start crying to the Feds to bail them out of their pickle with taxpayer dollars.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't watch that many games but one of the news guys did a "my turn" type commentary last night that nailed it so well I wish I had it all on tape. He said the days when Americans see the players as the golden boys of summer are over, and that it's hypocritical in the extreme that this goes on, so he said, go ahead, strike, strike tomorrow, it can't happen soon enough, etc. If I had the transcript I'd post it, but it was a beaut.

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  • Spring CreekSpring Creek Member Posts: 1,260 ✭
    edited November -1
    They can strike til Hell freezes over, as far as I'm concerned.
    And it's fall, who cares if they strike---It's football season again!
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Baseball, football, and the rest used to be a "sport". For a long time now- it's just another high paid job. I could care less about them and would rather go fishing, shooting or hunting/camping.
    All they do is complain about something- but you don't see them quit, because they wouldn't make it in the real world.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've not had much use for professional sports for decades. There used to be personal pride and some level of 'professionalism' on the field. That came to an end in the '60s. Now the players that work to perform are a vanishing (-ed?) minority - the Gretskys, the Birds, etc. Especially in baseball, the owners pay whining wannabes much more money in a season than the truly greats of yesteryear saw in their entire careers. Do I care about Iverson, Strawberry and others? Not a bit. I'd rather see a minor league game where the players actually give a damn (admittedly so they can move up to the big bucks). Even college ball is all about money now. I'd rather watch the peewees play. Not anywhere near as polished, but at least they give 100%, they don't think they're doing me a favor and they have fun.
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  • Jody CommanderJody Commander Member Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Blaming baseball for the greed of it's players and owners is akin to blaming shooters for all gun crime. Baseball is America, not just the U.S. but America, it will overcome this outbreak of drug abuse,greed and manufactured media madness over records broken by players. Baseball is the DNA of America, born here and spread by the innate fairness of it's rules and it's unique nature, that allows even the small and comparatively weak individual to excell.
    No more than a stick and a ball is required to play,thus the poorest kids in the most backwards of nations can still play the game and possibly become a super star, no other game can make this claim, baseball has survived wars, depressions and earthquakes, it will survive the pettiness and greed of it's present crop of parasitic self-centered "Stars" too.
    Baseball is larger than life,transcending politics and death, Why? because it is played by children, and children grow to be men, better men, due to baseballs lessons learned, strikeout this at bat,walk to the dugout and know you will bat again, as in life, as in Christianty itself , baseball, like God, forgives, and gives you three more swings.
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  • jimmyc1jimmyc1 Member Posts: 44 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard today that the low end salary for ballplayers is 2 million per year...about $12,500 per game if they played every game...and they want to strike for more $. I say let them strike and finally kill the sport, then they can go to the other job they're qualified for..."you want fries with that". Disgusting
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  • nam barneynam barney Member Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Talk about exciting![YAWN] Haven't been interested in the PRO baseball since the fifties. My son loves it but dislikes guns. Go figure. He was in little league and I made it to Three Rivers for three games while I did my father son thing. He was less interested in what happened on the field than I was. I got more entertainment out of watching the grass grow on the field; and then some wet blanket informed me that it was Astro Turf. Popped my baloon for sure. During the second outing the most exciting thing that happened was when a seagull crapped into a guys 5.00 glass of warm beer; just three rows above me. That was a riot. So if they want to strike, go for it, I could care less!!!!
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  • Spring CreekSpring Creek Member Posts: 1,260 ✭
    edited November -1
    Heard a player (who makes $4.5 Million), on a Sunday Morning news show state "its not about money here, its the principle".
    UH, SURE ITS NOT!!!
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  • jdb123jdb123 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if i was afraid of the ball or to weak to hit a good fastball, i would be bitter about people making money to play ball too, its not the players job to fix what is wrong about baseball.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just my opinion but.....
    Sports are and may have always been stupid. Seems we teach our kids a level of competiton at an early age that does nothing but give them the desire to have more than the next kid, and that carries on into adulthood. There is nothing wrong with having fun and playing sports, but thats not what its about for probably 95% of adults and 100% of the kids. I love to play, but for the fun of it, win or lose I could care less. The shear fun of running around, no matter what the sport, is a blast. I hate to play baseball because I feel like I'm letting my team mates down when I strike out, because I suck at hitting the ball. That shouldnt be the way it is, but it is because of the way we were taught from the time we could hold a bat, catch a ball of any sorts, or run across the grass. America is not baseball, or football, etc., America is competition, greed, and the love of money, fueled by sports and the advertisement schemes using pretty women and 'a man's man' having a nice cold beer. Our innocence was lost years ago, its not recent. I want to teach my children to have fun, but not at the expense of them. Pro. sports are not about fun, they're about money, and the people of America that go to them and pay the exhorbitant prices for tickets, just like a music concert, are the first ones to complain when a congressman votes himself a pay raise, or the price of gas goes up a penny. These Americans are morons, that place more emphasis on a darn game and the participants involved in them than they do the country, its economics, and the men and women that lead the nation. Yes this is a wonderful country we live in, idiots abound, priorities arent even thought of, and we are teaching our children that they should actually care about a baseball strike. Geesh...I could just keep right on going on, but I think I've made my point.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I never really had any interest in watching a bunch of men stand in a field, spit, and scratch themselves.
    And its also nice to know they make more in one year than I will in a lifetime.



    Edited by - Lightning on 08/18/2002 14:32:43
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  • michael minarikmichael minarik Member Posts: 478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Baseball, forget'em, let's talk Soccer! Let'em work for a living instead of playing a game............

    Edited by - michael minarik on 08/18/2002 23:54:26
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gave up on baseball when the Dodgers left Brooklyn. If the teams have no loyalty to the fans (and none were more loyal than Brooklyn) then why should the fans care about the teams?
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Greed, nothing but pure greed. Look at how they play, call me an armchair coach but look at them! Do they try to play? Nope, they just do like the rest of us, put in the time and go home. They milk the game for all it's worth and give nothing in return, except for a boring game. Sure sometimes it gets exciting, but not near like it used to. Heck, I would rather go watch little league baseball, now there are some true ball players, they try as hard as they can to play well.
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About the only time Baseball is exciting is when the benches are cleared in a full on team brawl.Then its more funny than anything.I would like to see a baseball team square off with a Hockey team.

    Eric S. Williams
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  • tikkamantikkaman Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    THANK GOD FOR FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!! AFTER Training Camp starts who really pays attention to MLB anyway????

    Beretta, another name for a Benelli reject!!!
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very well said Jody Commander, I agree. Unfortunatly when the millionaire boys and the billionaire boys start squabbling over how they are going to divide the money, they lose most of the fairweather fans and some of the die hards as well. It is becoming harder to take baseball seriously, too much like pro football these days.

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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    I have followed some winners:

    '72 Dolphins....undefeated season.

    Millwaukee Bucks....NBA Champions

    Marquette Warriors....NCAA Champions

    NC State Wolfback(Cardiac Kids)....NCAA Champions

    Oakland A`s....World Series Champs

    Pittsberg Pirates....World Series Champions

    Nowadays they can shove there Nikes or Rebocks
    up there @$$.

    .218
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    Classic and I enjoy watching the Little League...and that is the ONLY baseball we watch... he is watching it, and I am listening to the tv... doing research and dropped in here...

    These kids (boys and girls) are awesome... they show great sportsmanship... we love listening to the coaches talking, encouraging, supporting the kids..... its not whether they win or lose, but have fun playing...

    One kid has his pajamas on under his uniform.. for luck... I think that is so cute, but I seen something last night that really hit home... the one team was losing by a score of 6-0... they could have stopped as per the rules... but they didnt... they played on to the end even though there was almost no chance of them making a comeback...All the coach said was, "We can quit or we can play.. its your decision... The score may be 8-0 when its over but have fun"

    Those kids have the heart of true champions...


    Lil' Stinker's Opinion
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  • yankswinyankswin Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    baseball salaries should be given to the other REAL sports players with skill, finess, and sweat!. not to people who play a kids game. hey guys, you had a good thing going, you blew it! boo hoo hoo!
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