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CA ?

smokinggunsmokinggun Member Posts: 590 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
What's up with Kalifornia? I've noticed while looking at the auctions that pre-ban hi-cap pistols can't be shipped there. If person lives there and has owned one for years, can he keep it? I have a hi-cap mag up for auction on GB so I *-ume that I can't ship it there. Is there anywhere else that it's not legal to ship to? How do you guys in Kalifornia deal with this nonsense? Alright, enough questions, but I do have a suggestion for people there. Go and rent a large jackhammer, find a crack in the ground near the eastern border, stand on the eastern side of the crack and go to work. Maybe some liberals who can't stand the idea that you are hurting the earth will jump up and down to give you a hand.



Edited by - smokinggun on 04/24/2002 21:59:52

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  • drawndrawn Member Posts: 544
    edited November -1
    Copied from above:The other list is handguns that must pass a "safety test." If the gun is not on the approved list, it cannot be sold in CA. This includes most used guns not in production any longer.Except private party to private party sales within the state.
  • Mr. LoboMr. Lobo Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank god for loopholes...

    Jim
  • WWllVetWWllVet Member Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Be advised that all Private party sales in the Politicians Republic of Kalifornia MUST go through an FFL PERIOD

    Vet
  • imadorkimadork Member Posts: 147 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most of the law relating to hi-cap mags in CA is found in penal code sec. 12020-12040. Perhaps the most controversial part of the assault weapons ban aside from the features test is that you cannot carry an assault weapon in public in this state. According to the law, you may only have an assault weapon at your property, your business, or a target range. The weapon must be locked in a separate container in the trunk of a vehicle while transporting. An assault weapon is any semi-auto centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine that has one of the evil features: thumbhole, telescoping stock, pistol grip, flash hider. Or a length under 30".
    Note: while they cannot require registration, cities and counties may have their own lists of prohibited weapons. For example, San Francisco and L.A. both classify virtually any semiauto rifle with detachable magazine, and any shotgun with a capacity of more than 6 shots as "assault weapons" and have ordinances requiring the confiscation and destruction of any assault weapons found in city limits. In both cities the ordinance was retroactive. And yes, they can do that, however much we all agree that it sucks. Complicated by this fact is that court decisions are just as binding but are harder to figure out, so you have three levels of regulation on the local level: statute, ordinance, and court orders!

    The ordinances are purposely ambiguous to ensare ordinary people like us into giving up the weapons we own legally. Those two cities also prohibit the carrying of any dirk or dagger (essentially any knive with a fixed blade or a folding blade when locked into position) whether openly or concealed, and also knives over a certain length, probably 3". So you probably can't even carry a sword in these cities and others, as in their eyes a sword is just a knife over the legal length. Check SF Police Code 55.05 and LA City Code ch. V, Art. 5, sec 55.05 to see for yourself.
    Some of the wealthier, elitist cities like Hillsborough, Atherton, and Palo Alto prohibit the possession of firearms completely except in a person's own home.

    As for mags, in January 2000 it became a misdemeanor to buy, sell, give, lend, or import any ammunition feeding device larger than 10 rounds, including machinegun belts and stripper clips. Of course, all you have to do is buy the * in another state-- a hassle that discourages but does not prevent importation of high-caps. And yes, you have been graciously allowed to keep the high-cap mags you already own, but not the newly defined assault weapons you may have purchased unless you registered them by December 2000.

    See http://www.leginfo.ca.gov for more info and to look for yourself at the tragedy that has happened in this state.
  • smokinggunsmokinggun Member Posts: 590 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks everybody for the info. Not that I would ever go there but if I was to go there I guess I would have to stay in Hillsborough, Atherton, or Palo Alto since nobody there is allowed to have a gun outside of their home and it would be safer there.

    YEAH RIGHT!!
  • drawndrawn Member Posts: 544
    edited November -1
    SaxonPig, I just added the private party transfers as information for all as WWIIVET did with the FFL part that I left out. No mud slinging intended, guess I'm as hyper sensitive about our few remaining rights as you are with your sense of proper dignity, values and self respect.

    drawn
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Someone recently mentioned that the M1 Carbine is still legal in CA. Does that include LA? I bought mine at B&B Sales in No. Hollywood and owned it there for several years before moving out of state. The more I hear about this nonsense the more I think KA is a foreign country full of fools. Someone once said of California that God lifted the Eastern corner of the US once upon a time and all the goofballs and nuts rolled to So. Cal. Except for a few who hung onto bushes here and there along the way...

    -- Life NRA Member
    "If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • imadorkimadork Member Posts: 147 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These are assault weapons:
    - In SF, any semiauto centerfire rifle that "can" accept a detachable mag over 5 rounds.
    - In L.A., any semiauto centerfire rifle that "can" accept a detachable mag over 20 rounds.
    - in both cities, any shotgun with a capacity of more than 6 shots
    - plus all others as defined in the penal code

    The M1 Carbine would therefore be illegal in both cities. It's too bad that these two cities are two of the coolest places in the country. See a connection?
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