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How do you carry???

22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
This should bring up some intersting thoughts.Do you carry your auto with or without one in the chamber?Do you carry a revolver with a full cylinder or an empty chamber under the hammer?I never carry an auto with one in the chamber or an revolver with one under the hammer.I have never seen a safety I trusted other than the Colt 1911 type.
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  • Bubba JoelBubba Joel Member Posts: 5,161
    edited November -1
    I carry one in chamber...My gun does not have a safety....Firm trigger pull on the first...I think that IF I have to use it, I don't want to take time to jack one in....IMHO
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Smith 5906 safety is pretty good, blocks the hammer from striking the pin. Even if you drop it on the hammer, it can't fire with the safty on.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Autos with one in the pipe.Revolvers with a full cylinder.Keep your finger off'n the trigger when pulling the damn thing out and you won't have any problem.Anybody else use a Galco SOB (small of the back) holster? Best I've found for my Glock 26. Even concealed when I'm wearing a short jacket.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DA semi auto's with one in the pipe. When I need it I want it. My next one's gonna be a Kimber ultra cdp cocked and locked in an approptiate holster.
    So many guns to buy. So little money.[This message has been edited by badboybob (edited 11-01-2001).]
  • luger01luger01 Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's been said before, but "The best safety is the one between your ears."I never would carry a gun for self defense that wasn't ready to use instantly. As for the 'safety' on a revolver - what are you worried about? Dropping the gun on the hammer won't cause a discharge in a modern revolver (of course a Colt SAA or clone would fire). If you're worried about accidentally pulling the trigger, then the empty cylinder should be adjacent to the one under the hammer (direction depends on make).As for semi-auto pistols, if you own one with a safety so poor that it won't stay on - get it fixed. The 1911 type safties are no more or less safe than any other safties. Take a Walther PPK: heavy DA pull plus a thumb safety lever. Compare to the 1911 - grip and thumb safety. Which is more 'safe'? Neither. The only safety is waht I said in the beginning and what others have said here - the operator.
  • jujujuju Member Posts: 6,321
    edited November -1
    I'm rather tall and thin ( excluding the old mans belly) and I carry my glock 22 in vest designed for concelead carry. I always have it "cocked and locked" ready to go with one in the pipe. In a moment of need I may not have time to jack one in. With the vest on nobody has ever known I was carrying. Many of my close friends were suprised to find out later even though they know I regulary carry. Side holster with a shirt out or jacket when the vest isn't possible.
  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Whatda gonna do when the s++t hits the fan, say "time out" I'm not ready. In the pipe and ready....always.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saw a man bend over in a helicopter & drophis 1911 from his shoulder holster. Wentoff when it hit the ground. General rideingin helicopter was not happy.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    20th century S&W or Colt D.A.revolvers were intended to be safely carried fully loaded.A D.A. auto with one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off(if it has one)is the smartest auto to carry. When bad things happen they can happen very fast and at close quarters when you may not have two hands free or the time or opportunity to fumble with a safety. One of the reasons Glocks are so popular is they are always ready, safe and the trigger pull is lighter than D.A.O handguns in spite of them being the ugliest gun ever devised.The 1911 grip safety is a safety and not an ornament or supplement to the manual safety.With proper spring tension on it, the pistol will not fire unless both trigger and grip safety are depressed. A single action semi auto used for carry should not have had any trigger work done on it that decreases the sear engagement with the hammer as they sometimes can be jarred off.While an expert with a cool head might be best served with a 1911 cocked and unlocked, a novice should only consider a D.A. or D.A.O. handgun as a carry gun and it should be fully loaded.
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you don't have one in the pipe, it's only a club.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The importance of proper tension in the sear and grip safety portions of the combination sear, grip safety and trigger spring were illustrated in Gruntleds' experience with the dropped 1911. It should not have fired; safety off or on.Of the thousands of 1911A1s I've handled, most needed these springs reshaped. This particular G.I. issue spring tends to be soft and over time requires rebending.
  • luger01luger01 Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    v35-You left out the Ruger revolvers. They are as good or better than S&W and Colt. In fact, S&W has gone to the Ruger transfer bar system in their revolvers.The transfer bar makes it impossible for the hammer to touch the firing pin unless the trigger is fully to the rear. The firing pin is 'floating' in the frame and it's much too light to dent the primer, let alone ignite it.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, Luger01, no offense intended. I forgotthe D.A. Ruger. The earlier S&W transfer bars worked ok. The Ruger type must require less handfitting to justify the changeover by S&W.The Ruger Blackhawk transfer bar was a consequence of a legal action by some fool in Alaska who was screwing around with a 44mag in his pickup and shot himself in the leg. He got a significant judgement.
  • AntiqueDrAntiqueDr Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1911, Condition One.
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I CARRY A SIG P-226 ONE IN THE PIPE HAMMER DECOCKED.WITH A SIG IM VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT MORE THAN I WOULD BE WITH OTHER BRANDS I GUESS
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    While carrying my Sig in the Army, I carried it without one in the chamber because that's just the regular Army B.S. that currently reigns. Some of my fellow office-mates carried theirs with one in the pipe but our Operations NCO would occasionally do spot checks and would deal with them in a rather inseeeensitive manner. While carrying my personal firearm (while living in a state where this was allowed), I carried my S&W 457 with the hammer down on a loaded chamber and a full magazine with safety on.
  • stanmanstanman Member Posts: 3,052
    edited November -1
    idsman, You sound just like Michael Savage the way you say seeensitive! Are you a listener? The guy is a real fanatic, but, HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT!Smart man.
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    juju - how do you carry a glock "cocked and locked" I was under the impression that you can't do either. The glock has no safety so it can't be "locked" and with that screwy trigger system it is always half-cocked.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    stanman! Holy cow. I thought I was the only fan of the Savage Nation here on this board. Nobody has mentioned it before and I've taken on a few of his Savage-isms myself. He is a no-holds-barred kind of guy and speaks from the same heart where my beliefs are founded.
  • jujujuju Member Posts: 6,321
    edited November -1
    shootist, "cocked and locked" is an old expression we used when I was in the military to indicate the weapon was loaded and ready to fire, didnt mean it literally.Sorry for any confusion.
  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Commander...condition 1You must do three things correctly to fire the weapon.1) Safety off.2) Squeeze the grip safety.3) Pull the trigger.Conversly....ALL three of the above must go wrong for it to accidentally discharge.Mudge
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How do I carry? Well, when I'm playing basketball I wear a jock, but other than that it's tighty-whities. (he he he)
  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    I carry ither a Glock 23 or a Glock 32. Both would have a round in the chamber. My 2 cents
  • biganimalbiganimal Member Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    revolver or auto fully loaded and ready for action,,,,don't place finger on trigger until ready to use....simple!!!
  • bobgbobg Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    my s&w model 410 (.40) I think is safe with round chambered, hammer down and safety on.i am a little nervous to keep one in the pipe of my beretta .32- tomcat- because of something i read in a gun mag,- but can't remember exactly what the problem was.
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