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Kick start the tribunal!

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
One of the non-Afghan Taliban fighters who survived last week's prison uprising near Mazar-e Sharif in northern Afghanistan is an American, U.S. officials said Sunday on condition of anonymity. The fighter, who identified himself as John Walker, was receiving treatment Sunday for grenade and bullet wounds suffered in the bloody revolt last week by some Taliban prisoners captured after the surrender of Konduz to the Northern Alliance. During the uprising, which began November 25, hundreds of the Taliban prisoners and a CIA operative were killed. Authorities ended the threat by flooding the garrison's cellar Friday night. More than 80 Taliban fighters emerged Saturday morning and surrendered to members of the Northern Alliance, according to the Red Cross. The Red Cross had suspended collecting bodies from the compound Thursday when armed Taliban began shooting at rescue workers, killing one and wounding two others. The 20-year-old fighter said he had been hiding in the fortress' basement for seven days and had not eaten. He described himself as a convert to Islam and a "jihadi" -- fighter of holy wars. He added that he had lived in northwest Pakistan and joined the Taliban six months ago. In describing how the Taliban prison revolt began, he said, "Somehow they started fighting, starting with a grenade, then one of them grabbed a Kalashnikov from one of the [Alliance Gen. Abdul Rashid] Dostum army forces, and so the fighting began. Eventually they took some heavy weapons, and they took control of a weapons storage house." Walker said he was born in Columbia Women's Hospital in Washington and grew up near San Francisco. Walker said his parents are divorced and that he left home at 18, studying Arabic in Yemen. He said his father lives in Northern California. CNN has been unable to verify this information independently. He traveled to northwest Pakistan, where he studied Islam and came into contact with Taliban supporters, Walker said. He then went to the Afghan capital, Kabul, where, because he did not speak the local languages, the Taliban urged him to join the forces supported and funded by Osama bin Laden, he said. Walker said he followed their advice, going to a training camp in Afghanistan where bin Laden appeared several times. He said he learned to fire a Kalashnikov. Walker said he then was sent to the Kashmir region, where he fought with Pakistanis against Indians, and returned to Afghanistan for another month of training. He said he has been in Afghanistan for six months, speaking only Arabic. When the U.S. bombardment began, he said he fled 100 miles on foot to Konduz, where he was one of more than 3,000 Taliban soldiers taken prisoner in the garrison. He said he intended to surrender but was drawn into battle when one of his comrades threw a grenade. After taking a bullet in his upper-right thigh, he fled to the basement bunker, where he and dozens of other Taliban remained for seven days. During that time, gasoline was poured into the basement and ignited, and grenades were exploded. He and the remaining survivors did not emerge until Northern Alliance forces diverted an irrigation stream into the bunker, flushing out the survivors. Walker, a thin man of about 5 feet, 10 inches, described the basement as a dungeon and said it was full of dead bodies. Walker was among three truckloads of prisoners -- most of them wounded or dead -- who had emerged or been taken from the basement. U.S. Special Forces soldiers took Walker to a warm place and assisted in getting him medical treatment. The Red Cross was caring for Walker on Sunday night in Mazar-e Sharif. He was sequestered because he is considered a prisoner of war. If he is determined to be a U.S. citizen, he would be taken back to the United States, officials said. Whether he would be tried, and by whom, remains unclear.

Comments

  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    Sounds a bit like treason to me. Hope he gets a fair trial.
    When it absolutely, positively,has to be destroyed overnight.....U.S. MARINES. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • jeenyesjeenyes Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't keep up with all the things going on in this conflict. But, if he is tried by a military court, that would mean he is a prisoner of war. I don't think a declaration of war was made. So how can he be a POW tried by a...... never mind I'm just confused.
  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, military trial. "Bring the guilty * in and we'll give him a fair trial" The guy's a damn traitor, but since he's obviously not white he'll get special treatment from our socialist give a mint.We can't piss off farakhan and jackson, et al. [This message has been edited by badboybob (edited 12-02-2001).]
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The problem is not that one ,but the ones working at the Pentagon,in the CIA ,NSA,andother sensitive positions INSIDE all the US Goverment ... This are the ones that planed 911 ... Bin Laden is Just a "Scapegoat" to protect the "real" conspirators.
    Good , Bad ? Who cares? as long I am the one with the GUN..
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    This is his pic. Looks like he is white.
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At 6ft "7 he might even had played for the Glovetroters...
    Good , Bad ? Who cares? as long I am the one with the GUN..
  • berto64berto64 Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    He chose his path, no special treatment for him. Get'im outa that bunk and in a compound with the rest of'em!berto
    What! Trade my M-14 for that plastic piece of ___t!Endeavor to Persevere
  • rodgergliderodgerglide Member Posts: 184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Judge Dread..."real conspirators"?..."inside the US government"?...I don't trust our government sometimes but to claim that some of our own people planned that tragedy is ludicrous...have you been talking to someone who uses the handle "arkresearch"?...if not,I'll have what ever you're drinking,it's got to be good!
  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe the constitution says nothing about war having to being declared as far as traitorous acts being done against the US and being a POW. The way I see it he was waring with a common enemy of the USA, against the US military, which was there as a direct result of an attack on the US. Firing squad comes to mind. Not because he is a "pow", because he is a traitor.
  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Hey glide,it`s about time someone else saw the connection....plus arkresearch had a quirky little thing he did with his 'b's ...he used 'v's instead.Still I think he has behaved pretty good this time around..218
  • rodgergliderodgerglide Member Posts: 184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Bee whats up,besides us that is.Yeah,I sense some kind of "conspiracy" is taking place on this BB.
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Must be the trilateral commission...WUHAHAHA!!!!
  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    glide,step back a few paces..."played for the glovetroters"..classic arkresearch!!But like I said..he does seem to be behaving, under his new name..218
  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Troops,I have damn little respect for a lot of our government officials BUT.....at times, some of the "conspiracy" theories expounded here sound like pure Lyndon LaRouche BS. I also gotta' agree with jeenyes and rodgerglide on this one.If the Walker kid renounced his U.S. citizenship, he can't be a traitor. At least not to the U.S. If he hasn't renounced, hang the little bastid!Is he getting special treatment? If so, why?Mudge the patriot
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In Russia he would already be dead.
  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The military tribunals cannot be used against American citizens. If he renounced his citizenship officially, he probably could be tried that way. For citizens, the constitution protects against the use of military tribunals for civilians.
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    rodgerglide: I was the one giving him the info ... if you want your mind to blow up with the trueface of america send your ICQ number to www.arkresearch@hotmail.com and request A.C.I.O doc state night hour EST to do transfer or just go to www.rense.com and read the partial information there .... Quite a lot if you know were to look ...you are not in Kansas any longer BABY !USA has become a BIG OZ ! Welcome to the party (Dressed in BK only)!
    Good , Bad ? Who cares? as long I am the one with the GUN..
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He looks like Tom Cruse!
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He looks like Tom Cruse!
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He looks like Tom Cruse!
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He looks like Tom Cruse!
  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He looks like Tom Cruse!
  • hyperspacehyperspace Member Posts: 91 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought that if you joined up with a foreign military or militia, you lost your US Citizenship?
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