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WOLF Ammo

56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
I have heard rumor that the lacquer-coated wolf ammo tends to clog the chambers of AR-15 style rifles. Apparently sustained fire causes the lacquer to melt off of the casings and fill the chamber creating a "goo" substance when the rifle cools. Ultimately (so I've heard), this causes feeding and extractions problems. Has anyone had this experience? Would the new copper-coated steel casings manufactured by Wolf cause similar problems?I just ordered a case of Wolf ammo and am wondering if I should cancel the order.
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    what is the consensus on wolf ammo
    I have shot 200 rds of wolf 45 ammo in my 1911a1 and can see no dammage from the steel case which is what the guy at the range said was the major problem.
    I like the way it shoots and it looks like it would store well but would like to hear what others think before I buy 8 or 9 hundred rounds more

    SMILE...MAKE EM WONDER WHAT YOUR UP TO
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have bought hundreds of ammo made by Wolf in 7.62x39. It fired and fed just fine so I thought I would try some in .223 for my AR-15. After about 3 magazines full it started to jam and would not eject for anything. It did this in both my duty AR and my heavy barrel varmit AR. After running a brush through it, things returned to normal.

    I figure that this coating that is put on the steel cases builds up and eventually coats the chamber till malfunctions occur because of the tighter chamber tolerances. So much for the good prices on this ammo. I shoot it for targets and plinking anyway so I guess when I finish the case of ammo, I will go with brass cased ammo from now on.
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Since I am relativly new here, I'm sure this has probably been hashed
    over before, But my question is about wolf ammo. I have been told
    by a number of people and also read on some companies info. page
    not to use steel cased ammo. Also the lacquer on the case melts
    when the chamber gets hot and sticks to the inside of the chamber.
    when it cools it's a bear to get out and causes malfuntions due to
    the smaller chamber tolerances. Anybody have any problems with wolf?
    I won't shoot it in my firearms. Does anybody use it?

    What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    SUCKS, for use in the AR15, however my SKS just eats it up. go figure.

    PJ

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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A coworker is picking up a Mini 30 this weekend and asked about using Wolf ammo in it.

    Anyone here use wolf in their Mini 30?
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do any of you use the Wolf ammo in 223/5.56? Lake City is hard to get right now, but Wolf seems available most everywhere.

    Good? Dirty? Cycling problems?
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can anybody give me anyfeed back on WOLF ammo?especially 9mm Luger 115 gr. Copper FMJ steel case non-corrosive Berdan primed.
    R.J.H.
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  • 56panhead56panhead Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it any safer to run Wolf through an AR since the change to a polymer coating instead of the lacquer coating? On AR15.com, most of the posters seem to have a favorable opinion of the polymer coated ammo being run through an AR. I thought I'd get input from you guys.

    Where's Roboman when you need him?[:D]
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wolf is all I buy nowadays, unless I need some special rounds for self-defense or hunting. For plinking and stockpiling for a rainy day, Wolf is absolutely the best route to go.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7.62X39 is ok. Everything else leave it on the shelf. Back away and run fast.
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Come on Royce- I think wolf ammo is great for shootin, at fact I think for the price- you can't beat it. Go for it! Or reload!
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have gone through more than 3000 rounds of 9mm Wolf ammo and have yet to have a problem with it. When you really don't feel like reloading and/or shoot where you don't have to pick up the brass Wolf is the answer.
    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've shot a bunch of Wolf ammo of the exact type you mention. No problems, other than a little dirtier so you have to clean the gun carefully. It could cause a bit more wear on the extractor due to being steel cased. It's also great ammo for storage if you buy it by the 1,000. But, for just a little more you can get other brands where you won't worry about the extractor. So I have some Wolf stored away for a "rainy day" and I get other brands on sale for routine target practice.[This message has been edited by Gordian Blade (edited 01-17-2002).]
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry Daddo, I have had nothing but bad luck with wolf. I have shot their .223 steel cased in my 2 bushmasters, 1 dpms, and my ruger mini 14 stainless and every one of them hung up repeatedly. Before that all the above mentioned weapons were flawless as far as jamming. I have shot their 9mm steel cased ammo in my M39-2 Smith, Browning Hi power and Taurus 99af and with the exception of the M39 with aluminum CCI ammo. They were all flawless until I put the wolf ammo in. I have not used it in my .45s but a friend of mine has shot Wolf ammo in his S&W645 and guess what it jammed everytime. Now I don't have the best most expensive pistols ever made but all the above are good quality weapons that I would and Have trusted my life with. I won't use wolf ammo. Now it does work perfect in my SKS. I buy that often when it is on sale, but I stay away from the other calibers.
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One more thing that might explain some problems: Wolf 9mm is a tiny bit longer at the tip than some. I have heard that a combination of hi cap mag + marginal spring + tight lengthwise fit in the mag = friction too high to feed the rounds properly.
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