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Cuomo calls for safety lock for every gun

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
Cuomo calls for safety lock for every gun

The Associated Press
8/20/02 5:06 PM


NEW YORK (AP) -- Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday charged that Gov. George Pataki has not done enough to stop gun violence and called for new gun control measures including universal safety locks.

"We require every car to have seatbelts," Cuomo said. "We should require every firearm to have a safety device that makes it impossible for a child to get into trouble."

Cuomo, the former federal housing secretary, spoke across the street from Martin Luther King Jr. High School in Manhattan, where two pupils were shot in January.

"The plague of gun violence is a plague on this city and this state and this nation, and it is a situation that we can do something about," he said. "When I was in Washington as HUD secretary, although combating gun violence was not strictly within the description of the HUD secretary historically, I was very aggressive in fighting gun violence."

Pataki signed legislation two years ago requiring mandatory trigger locks, ballistic "fingerprinting" to better track weapons and background checks on gun buyers at gun shows.

Asked about the 2000 law, Cuomo said, "I think he could have done more. ... I know other states have done more. I know as HUD secretary I was doing a lot more."

Pataki spokesman Joe Conway countered, "New York has won national recognition for having the toughest laws in the nation. This is really nothing more than partisan politics on Andy's part, which, like his ideas, is nothing new."

Cuomo is battling State Comptroller H. Carl McCall for the Democratic nomination to challenge the Republican governor, who is seeking his third term.


http://www.nj.com/newsflash/jersey/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?j0201_BC_NY--Governor'sRace-Gu&&news&newsflash-newjersey


"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

Comments

  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Time for New York Republicans to vote for Cuomo IN PROTEST. Pataki made gun laws worse in New York. So if Republican Pataki chooses to behave like a Democrat, why not just vote for a Democrat?
    I have 3 conservative siblings in New York, who will be voting Democrat this time around.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I helped defeat an anti-gun Republican here in the last Primary election (with a letter writing campaign), to help keep Mark Souder in office. It's far better to do that than vote Democratic.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about safety locks for liberals' mouths and chastity belts?!
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ICONOCLAST- How about safety locks on liquor bottles for those senators who have a history of getting drunk, and driving off bridges.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im with Offeror on this one if we all do as he did its proven to make a Difference.

    Best!!

    Rugster


    Toujours Pret
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    salzo said quote:So if Republican Pataki chooses to behave like a Democrat, why not just vote for a Democrat?
    I have 3 conservative siblings in New York, who will be voting Democrat this time around.

    Seems to me that is a lot like saying 'Gosh, hitting my head against this wall is giving me a headache, I'll show 'em and find a HARDER WALL'.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid. Aren't you really saying - you don't agree with me enough so I'm gonna vote for somebody who disagrees even more?

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist3006-No.
    The problem with your analogy, is you are saying that one wall is harder than the other-when actually, the only difference between the two walls, is one has an R painted on it, while the other has a D painted on it.
    The Republican party counts on people who express what you have expressed-specifically, that they will choose to bang their head on one wall rather than the other, because of the false beleif that the one wall is softer than the other. It is not. The wall is the same, so therefore, it does not matter what wall you bang your head into, because the results will be the same. Choosing to bang your head on the wall with the D on it, might make the R wall decide to come a bit "softer"(more right) next time around. Choosing to bang your head into the R wall, even though it is only a tenny bit softer than the other wall will not make that wall softer, it will only make that wall believe it can go even harder, because that wall knows that most people will go with the belief that they are the softer wall-even though they really arent. The fact that those will bang there head on the wall with the R on it, allows the R wall to keep getting harder.
    The only hope is to bang your head into the wall with the D, in hopes that the wall with the R might get softer next time around.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed constitution to the federal governmentare few and defined, and will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace negotiation, and foreign commerce"
    -James Madison
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    salzo, if there were a lock on the mouth of that particular politician, he wouldn't be into the hooch. But in his case, there would be more appropriate measures.
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Vote for Golisano instead.

    He claims to be a Conservative. Based on his competition, that's good enough for me.
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I'm sick and tired of politicians who have less education than a first grader trying to run things they know nothing about and keep comparing vehicles which are a privilage- to guns which are a "right". They make an oath to protect the "constitution"- something they have never read.
    Again- the criminal and/or the druggie, will care less about locking an already ilegal gun, therefore; this law will serve to only make criminals out of the law abider who wants to protect that which is his- his family! Cuomo, is an idiot!
    Read this and you will see the truth of the "Bill of Rights!"
    http://www.keepandbeararms.com/Mancus/liberty.htm
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Politicians may be the only "career" that gets to make pronouncements about all kinds of things they know nothing about. It's like a plumber giving advice to plastic surgeons, an accountant telling NASA engineers how to make the shuttle safer. Where does Cuomo get this sudden blinding expertise about what's more effective for every home, every person, every gun in every circumstance? By golly, I'm sure the bad guys are shaking over this concept....

    By the way, did you see that car-jacker that got beaten up by a carload of judo expert girls? He looked positively upset, like the victims hadn't played fair or something. I guess they weren't "supposed" to defend themselves effectively. It's not how you play the system..... That was my biggest laugh this week, the look on that guy's face while they loaded his sore and bruised carcass into the back of a black & white. Not only that, they admitted they went easier on him than they could have.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullseye,
    Don't buy into Golisano's bullcrap. He ran promoting tougher gun laws last time around as an independant. Now he's criticizing Pataki for passing gun laws. Pataki ran as pro gun, when he thought George Bush would pick a middle of the road republican for VP he turned on us to gain favor. He was hoping Bush would try and play both sides of the isle on the gun issue. I've been seriously considering throwing my vote either Libertarian or to McCall as a protest vote. One thing I can say about NY gun owners, They'll fight for thier lives against a democrat, But they'll lay there and take it from a republican. That tends to go for most american gun owners. I read somewhere that more anti gun laws were written and passed by republican/conservatives than democrat/liberals. I have come to believe that if NY is any example. McCall seems principled enough that he'll stay true to his campaign. I know he'll be my enemy and I'll fight him tooth and nail. So will my fellow gun owners. The same ones that were saying, "that's ok it won't apply to the shotgun I hunt deer with", when a republican was stabbing them in the back. I've already responded to the conservative parties fund raising letters with "drop Pataki and I'll donate" letters. I've been a registered conservative in NY since I was 18 (21 yrs). They will not get another vote or another penny from me until they cease to endorse Pataki.

    Woods
  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All of this discussion of the NY Governor's race is moot. Unless there is a major political cataclysm, like an asteroid hitting Albany on the rare occasion that he's here, Pataki will be Governor for another 4 years. Take it to the bank.
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