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NJRETCOP- Whats with all the crooks in NJ

salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
I spent the past week doing jobs in your fair state. Everytime I saw a McGreevey bumper sticker, I had to fight the urge to give the driver the finger.The one and only thing I love about NJ(besides the great retired cops), is the gas. I mean its like 15 cents cheaper than it is in Pennsylvania.But here is the problem: I had to fill up everytime I went to NJ this week, and I was a little confused about the law which states you are not allowed to pump your own gas. Everytime I filled up, I noticed SOMEBODY pumpin their own gas.Now I know NJRETCOP, that it is illegal to pump your own gas in your God forsaken state-Yet I see all of these people pumping their own gas? WHY ARENT THEY GETTING ARRESTED, AND LOCKED UP?Now I realize this is a dumb law, and people would say it should be taken off the books, because everyone does it anyway. But I say the exact opposite. I think this law should be strictly enforced. I think there should be a LEO at every gas station, and when someone pumps their own gas, they should be taken away in cuffs. This would ber good, because people will start to realize what a police state New Jersey is-and then perhaps, they might stop voting for liberal/communists. Talk to your conservative friends who are still on the job, and tell them I suggest they start arresting the gas criminals. In the long run, I think it might make your state turn right.I see two good things happening if you start locking up the gas violators. Number one , the most obvious, is people will start getting annoyed when they get thrown in jail, and the people who have to bail out there mothers, daughters, sons, wives husbands, will also start to get ticked off. They will be forced to evaluate these dumb laws.And number two. When people realize that if they have to obey the law, it will take them an hour to get gas, they might reevaluate these "feel good" , "good for society laws" that Jersey is so proud of."Why do I have to wait an hour to get gas when I can pump it myself?""Well sir, it might be an inconvenience, but it does so much for the people of the state, and that is what is important"
Happiness is a warm gun[This message has been edited by salzo (edited 12-16-2001).]
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Salzo, thank you for alerting me to this situation. I'm gonna find my rusty old handcuffs and gun and go right down to the local Amoco. Imagine people pumping their own gas in NJ. Next thing you know they'll be wanting to carry concealed weapons. -CharliePS Happy Birthday again and many more buddy
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelMember: NRA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2AMPD and the AARP. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    NJRETCOP- Your welcome. I figure someone had to alert you to what was going on over there.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ya know, I always thought NJ was one ****ed up state, but this is even more stupid than the gun laws.
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  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shoot, and I thought Kalifornication was bad. At least here, they ALLOW us to pump our own gas...for now.
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  • FMJFMJ Member Posts: 25 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    N.J. is run by the mafia.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For corruption, RI takes home the trophy. No other state even plays in the same league.[This message has been edited by Iconoclast (edited 12-17-2001).]
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  • jo-danjo-dan Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Y'all,The reason we can't pump our own here inNJ is that the state gets an extra 1 or 2cents/gallon tax when it is dispensedby the vendor which is all right. The $15NCICS fee and the $49 fingerprint fee area little excessive, but at least NJ allowssome of us the privlege of owning a gun.I'd hate to live in D.C. or Morton Grove.happy holidaysjo-dan
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do they pay bounty per head arrest?.. in a week i will be rich !!! anyone with a 64 passenger prision buss that want to make a buck out there? $$$$$ AAAHHH ! and a tow truck for removing the detainee car... we can get $350. tow away fee per head AAHHH ! capitalistic police states are PARADISE...let's the money roll $$$$$$$$$ HE HE HE !
    Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go ahead, stand out in the rain, snow sleet whatever. I'll sit in my nice warm unit an ALLOW the resident pump jockey to "fiil'er up" Paid ninety one cents (91) per gallon an the nice man from eastern europe did a fine job and i thanked him an he said have a good day. Someone splain to me y its better to pump yore own gas?
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IBTRUCKN- Well for one thing, everytime I have "filled up" in New Jersey, I have had to wait a ridiculous amount of time for some gas pumper to finally get to my car. Then, he hits the automatic fill up, and goes off and does whatever. I sit there waiting, while my tank is filled, for this guy to make the rounds and come back and collect my money. It is a time thing-And time is money. I literally have to allow twenty minutes in my schedule to get gas when I am in New Jersey.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • jo-danjo-dan Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Judge,Funny you should mention the bus; a coupleof years back the borough of Avalon (I think)did just that. They converted a bus and used it to round up underage drinkers/partygoersand genral misbehavers. Well it ended upin court with Avalon losing to the tune of several million$$$. The police recordsof all those kids had to be expunged and the borough had to pay, how about that?jo-dan
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  • Mom MomMom Mom Member Posts: 169 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pump you own gas today; get elected tommorrow. At least I thought thats how Jowzee dealt with their crooks- they put 'em in public office.
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo, sounds like u were on the NJTP or the parkway. I have yet to wait more than 2 car lenghts ANYWHERE an I look for the least expensive. The cheapest is ALWAYS on the numbered hiways, 22, 1, 130, 206 etc. more in towns and more on the toll roads. If u cant get off the toll roads, deal with itMean time I will sit in my unit an be waited on for the same or less than if I had to pump it!
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IBTRUCKN- I was actually on 42, and 130, in Camden. I had just gotten off the Turnpike and got onto 42. The other one is just over the Ben Frankling Bridge, on 130. Both times I scoped out the best price(.88), and both times I waited at least twenty minutes.
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    good 'ol joisy, guess us truckers aint worth having someone pump for us, we still have to pump our own juice in joisey,ever stand out in 10 degree weather and pump 250 gallons? Yep good ol joisey,only state in the union you have to pay to get out of,except for 295-95 other than that all raods out of the state accessible by trucks are covered by toll monsters.
    when all else fails........................
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jo-dan History tends to repeat itself like a looping computer program ,the man that reads history also can predict the future you may be one of thoose that can read the lines within the lines see the future and be able to "cathalize" change ....hope you can survive the things to come .
    Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Next thing ya know,it will be against the law to relieve yourself of gas in New Jersey..218
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo, apparently the wait was not worth it to you. You have to make that decision. Maybe next time fill up in Pa.7MM, yes u r rite. Diesel for commercial U pump. Y, u may ask? Cause the powers that be figger the 4 wheelers r too dam stupid to do this without spilling all over the tarmac.An dats de troot!!!MomMom, don't get into jersey politics unless u no. Its bad enuff here without outsiders telling us whats wrong. Not gettin muley, just tellin it like it is. TO THE TOP!!!
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IBTRUCKN- Well I guess you can look at it as one of lifes "personal decisions"-Get cheap gas but have to wait for it in New Jersey, or get exspensive gas and pay for it in PA. And I guess you can focus on the personal decision, and it is the buyers choice what he wants to deal with.But I kind of look at stupid laws as what they are- Stupid laws. The state of New Jersey, telling owners of gas stations that they must hire employees to pump gas, and to tell the citizens they are not allowed to pump their own gas, might not seem ridiculous to you, but it seems ridiculous to me. Perhaps you see some redeeming social value to this government intrusion on business and individuals, but I do not.But a law is a lwa, and as I stated in my original post, people break this law in New Jersey. I saw it happen quite a bit. And as I said earlier, these people should be arrested and prosecuted for breaking the law.If you find this law to be a good law, and not worthy of complaint, I guess you would agree that there should be legal action brought against those who break this law.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo, get a life!. U have NEVER exceeded the speed limit? Live and let live. Enuff is enuff. Enuff said...........
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    IBTRUCKN- You are a real piece of work. I guess you are someone who takes the position that if a law does not effect you personally in a negative manner, it is OK, regardless of whether or not it is government over regulation. "Oh well, there is never more than two cars in front of me, so the fact that a government is dictating to business how many employees it must hire, and it is requiring people to be inconvenienced, that is OK-Cause it doesnt inconvenience me.Gas station owners have to pay alot of money because of the burdensome regulations the state of NJ puts on the owners, but thats Ok-cause I only have to wait in a line with only two people in front of me". Does that about wrap up your feelings on the matter? Are you like the many hunters who take the position that any regulation of firearms is OK, as long as it does not effect your time in the deer woods?Wake up man!! If you can justify this regulation by the state of New Jersey, please do! But if your only contribution is "I never have to wait on line, therefore it is OK", or "If you dont like the burdens it places on you-deal with it", then one can only conclude that as long as a law does not effect IBTRUCN directly, then IBTRUCKN thinks a ridiculous law is just fine.And by the way, your comparison to speeding on a highway is absurd. Though the state cant catch everyone speeding, it does bust people who are caught. The laws about speeding are on the books, and they are enforced. If you think there is nothing wrong with the law dealing with pumping gas, then you should have no problem with the enforcement of that law.I do have a problem with the law, and I think it should be enforced. Not because I think that people are causing harm by breaking that law-but because I think people will be forced to evaluate over regulation by government, and then perhaps, will consider these over regulations when they go to the polls.Do you understand IBTRUCKN? CAn you at least try and see beyond how government over regulation effects you in the most base, direct way, and try and look at the entire picture?
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to agree with Salzo here. The logic that ibtruckin is using (if Salzo is correct in his summation of it) is the same used by many ACLU types. Pick and choose, pick and choose... Thinking this way is dangerous. It is how antis think when they admit that gun laws don't work but incessantly cry, "think of the children..." Logical thought is constant and it is a formula that can be used regardless of the variables. A dumb law is a dumb law, and the only way to get a dumb law repealed is to get enough people annoyed enough to call their state legislators. And I don't think saying "get a life" is appropriate or fair and I for one am glad that some people look at these things in an attempt to keep the government off my back, even if it is over someting as trivial as a gas station...
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Both of you, don't put words in my mouth. I never said what I thot of that law, one way or the other. Salzo I dont know what to say, this has gone way too far, so before anyone gets too serious, have a good holiday
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry if I offended you. Happy Holidays.
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