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muzzleloader question

thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
I recently bought a new gun (Traditions Shenandoah, 50 cal, percussion) and I found it hard to load after a few shots unless I swab the bore. My other guns, a 54 cal Hawkens and a 50 cal Kentucky pistol, seem to go 10 to 20 shots between cleaning swabs without too much effort required to load them. I was curious if longer barrel guns are harder to load or have more fouling issues? Or do new guns sometimes require lots of rounds to go through them before they loosen up. I'm shooting patch & ball, fffg blackpowder if that matters. Thanks for any help,Jeff
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a good but cheap, limited-frills, percussion or flintlock muzzleloader. I am looking to spend under $200 and I would like to buy new.
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try Cabellas. I have two of their 50 cal. Hawkins muzzle loaders and they're a fine weapon for the price.
    So many guns to buy. So little money.
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CVA makes a decent Hawken also, and if you buy a muzzleloader from Cabelas, even if it isn't one of theirs, you can get a starter kit at the same time. Everything you need to start shooting.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."
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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Question: Why do you want a cheap one?A friend of mine bought a TC cheapie this fall and hates it (Me too) it just feels like junk, the stock is very thin and light causing an overbalance or heavy muzzle, we both however love my Knight. He's out $100 on a gun he hates, and out more to replace it with a good one. If you're looking at saving cost try your local pawn shop, deer seasons over, and christmas is close, they'll be there for around your price- hope it helped- Ralph
    Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.
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  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lyman 54 cal Deer Stalker, just over two hundred and worth every penny. Stay away from the double triggers unless you like headaches.
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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Don't forget this placeThey have big selection of finished and kits http://www.dixiegunworks.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/dgw/homepage.html?E+dgw
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a CVA Hawken, and I love it- double triggers and all. I have never had a problem with it.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've got to ditto Salzo on this one. I've had my CVA St. Louis Hawkens w/double set trigger for 20 years. It's taken lots of deer with zero problems. Took a real nice 5x5 whitetail with it just the other evening.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Consider buying used, you can get a TC Hawken for equal for reasonable prices in very good condition very readily in most areas, Gunshops with used rifles often have a dozen or more. It allows you more rifle for less money, and they are often well cared for.
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  • HAL-9000HAL-9000 Member Posts: 38 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have one of those Tradition 50 cal Hawkins kits, paid $175.00.....I think, but it was way under $200.00. Works really well....no problems.............See them at gun shows alot.good luckHAL
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you all for your help. Anyone have an experience with the CVA Bobcat?
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    an ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure.
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  • JimmyJackJimmyJack Member Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Lyman great plains and a CVA bobcat. Each has shot a buck. The bobcat is very accurate, light, was cheap, and does the job, but is nowheres the gun the Lyman is, but it cost about 3 times as much. I would classify it as a utility gun that meets the basics and nothing more. (like good looks, balance , wood etc.)
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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JimmyJack- Great! That is exactly what I am looking for. I am buying the gun for someone who has never used a muzzleloader before and who I am not sure will use it a whole lot. I am looking for a beginner gun and if he doesn't mind the cleaning and prep work, perhaps he can upgrade in the future. Thanks to all on this post.
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
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