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One Mexican State Bordering The US Was Deadlier Than All of Afghanistan Last Year
Organized crime-related deaths in one Mexican border state during the first nine months of 2011 exceed the number of Afghan civilians killed in roughly the same period in all of war-torn Afghanistan.
According to the Mexican government, from January through September 2011 2,276 deaths were recorded in the Mexican state of Chihuahua, which borders Texas and New Mexico.
A Nov. 2011 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report states that over nearly the same period - January through October 2011 - 2,177 civilians were killed in Afghanistan, where a U.S.-led war against the Taliban is underway. It did not provide a breakdown of responsibility for that period, but said that in 2010, 75 percent of civilian deaths were attributed to the Taliban and other "anti-government elements."
Per capita, a person was at least nine times more likely to be murdered in Chihuahua last year than in Afghanistan. (Chihuahua has 3,406,465 inhabitants, according to Mexico's 2010 census; the CIA World Factbook reports that in July 2011 the estimated population of Afghanistan was 29,835,392.)
According to the reported numbers, the drug-related murder rate was about 67 for every 100,000 inhabitants in Chihuahua last year, while in Afghanistan the civilian killing rate was an estimated seven for every 100,000 people living there.
There were more drug-related killings in Chihuahua than in any other Mexican state, according to the government figures. Chihuahua, the largest state in Mexico, includes Ciudad Juarez, a border city located across from El Paso, Texas. It is the deadliest city in Mexico and is considered one of the most dangerous places in the world.
According to the government tally, Juarez accounted for 1,206 (about 53 percent) of the 2,276 drug cartel-related murders in Chihuahua during the fist nine months of 2011.
The state capital, the city of Chihuahua, was also among the five deadliest cities in Mexico over that period, with 402 homicides reported.
The organized crime-related deaths in Mexico - officially referred to as homicides due to rivalry between delinquent organizations - include executions, deaths from encounters with authorities, direct aggression attacks, and killings stemming from violence between organized trafficking groups, according to the country's government.
Its figures show that a total of 12,903 drug-related homicides took place across the country during the first nine months of 2011, taking Mexico's drug-war death toll to 47,515 since President Felipe Calderon began a militarized crackdown on organized crime in December 2006.
Again comparing the Mexican and Afghanistan figures, the CRS report shows that 11,007 Afghan civilians were killed from 2007 through October 2011. That is about 80 percent fewer deaths than the 47,515 drug-related murders in Mexico over roughly the same period (December 2006 through September 2011).
Even if Afghan National Army (1,933) and police (3,834) fatalities are added to the civilian death toll the total number of deaths in Afghanistan over that period - 16,774 - is still almost three times smaller than the Mexican figure.
A total of 1,757 U.S. soldiers have died in and around Afghanistan since U.S.-led forces invaded in Oct. 2001 to topple the Taliban after its al-Qaeda allies attacked the U.S. homeland the previous month.
According to CNSNews.com's detailed tally, which is derived primarily from Department of Defense reports, there were 399 U.S. military fatalities in Afghanistan during 2011, the second deadliest year of the war. (There were 497 deaths in 2010.)
http://tinyurl.com/7z8y7xb
Organized crime-related deaths in one Mexican border state during the first nine months of 2011 exceed the number of Afghan civilians killed in roughly the same period in all of war-torn Afghanistan.
According to the Mexican government, from January through September 2011 2,276 deaths were recorded in the Mexican state of Chihuahua, which borders Texas and New Mexico.
A Nov. 2011 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report states that over nearly the same period - January through October 2011 - 2,177 civilians were killed in Afghanistan, where a U.S.-led war against the Taliban is underway. It did not provide a breakdown of responsibility for that period, but said that in 2010, 75 percent of civilian deaths were attributed to the Taliban and other "anti-government elements."
Per capita, a person was at least nine times more likely to be murdered in Chihuahua last year than in Afghanistan. (Chihuahua has 3,406,465 inhabitants, according to Mexico's 2010 census; the CIA World Factbook reports that in July 2011 the estimated population of Afghanistan was 29,835,392.)
According to the reported numbers, the drug-related murder rate was about 67 for every 100,000 inhabitants in Chihuahua last year, while in Afghanistan the civilian killing rate was an estimated seven for every 100,000 people living there.
There were more drug-related killings in Chihuahua than in any other Mexican state, according to the government figures. Chihuahua, the largest state in Mexico, includes Ciudad Juarez, a border city located across from El Paso, Texas. It is the deadliest city in Mexico and is considered one of the most dangerous places in the world.
According to the government tally, Juarez accounted for 1,206 (about 53 percent) of the 2,276 drug cartel-related murders in Chihuahua during the fist nine months of 2011.
The state capital, the city of Chihuahua, was also among the five deadliest cities in Mexico over that period, with 402 homicides reported.
The organized crime-related deaths in Mexico - officially referred to as homicides due to rivalry between delinquent organizations - include executions, deaths from encounters with authorities, direct aggression attacks, and killings stemming from violence between organized trafficking groups, according to the country's government.
Its figures show that a total of 12,903 drug-related homicides took place across the country during the first nine months of 2011, taking Mexico's drug-war death toll to 47,515 since President Felipe Calderon began a militarized crackdown on organized crime in December 2006.
Again comparing the Mexican and Afghanistan figures, the CRS report shows that 11,007 Afghan civilians were killed from 2007 through October 2011. That is about 80 percent fewer deaths than the 47,515 drug-related murders in Mexico over roughly the same period (December 2006 through September 2011).
Even if Afghan National Army (1,933) and police (3,834) fatalities are added to the civilian death toll the total number of deaths in Afghanistan over that period - 16,774 - is still almost three times smaller than the Mexican figure.
A total of 1,757 U.S. soldiers have died in and around Afghanistan since U.S.-led forces invaded in Oct. 2001 to topple the Taliban after its al-Qaeda allies attacked the U.S. homeland the previous month.
According to CNSNews.com's detailed tally, which is derived primarily from Department of Defense reports, there were 399 U.S. military fatalities in Afghanistan during 2011, the second deadliest year of the war. (There were 497 deaths in 2010.)
http://tinyurl.com/7z8y7xb
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Evidently the violence does not cross the border yet. It seems like things will have to heat up in El Paso sooner or later.
I did talk to a Mexican American truck driver at the Automotive Lighting terminal in El Paso. He still has family in Mexico but he is afraid to cross the border any more. He said he hasn't crossed the border in 4 years.
This guy told me that life is hell in Juarez. He said that on Monday an armed group from the drug cartels will visit a homeowner and shake him down for a hundred dollars in protection money.
He said that, on Thursday four or five Mexican Army soldiers, in uniform, will visit the same homeowner and shake him down for two hundred dollars.
This driver told me that 65,000 homeowners in Juarez have just walked away from their houses and those homes are abandoned.
It is weird to be standing on a hill there in El Paso discussing this, it seems like you are discussing Afghanistan or Iraq, yet you can see Juarez down below, just 3 miles away across the river.
What is the reason that us gringos are not crossing the border? It seems to me it has to be a safety issue to keep the snowbirds away from the pharmacias. Do any of you know what is going on in Nogales?
Drug shipments are made by people under stress of losing their entire family/kids, the coyotes are carrying Daewoo rifles nowadays, along with AR-type carbines and most are just waiting to shoot something or someone.
There are bands of roving bandits, preying on anyone from either side of the border, assaulting BP as well as ICE.
Incursions with meskin military vehicles are pretty much on a schedule nowadays, with 8 just this month alone!
US enforcement's view is to let 'em get here, and we'll take care of it.
Sadly, by the time our sensor-riddled border has been compromised; some are dead, some are gone, and most are disappeared.
Stick that Janet Reno lookalike down there for a week, and see if she's so damn cheerful about how secure the border really is!
I've been working Deming, Silver City, Lordsburg and Columbus since November, and you don't have to look too hard to see this stuff happening all around!
Even the aerostat above Deming has been shot so full of holes that it takes an extra 30 minutes to patch it up before they fly it!