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has anyone ever tried re-using berdan primed brass

Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
I'm new to reloading
but very into guns
some of which the boxer primed brass is prohibitively expensive
i see there are berdan primer removers on the market----and would like to hear from some people who have had experience with doing this to see if it's something i wish to try
does this work well??? Question
after you do remove the berdan primer
what do you do about the flash-holes
also
will the primer seat need attention---like we have to do with military crimp boxer primed casings?

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've never attempted re-loading them, but did decap some. Basically, you have a tool which hooks onto the rim, and the other side is a sharpish punch you drive into the face of the primer and then try to lever out. Sometimes it works w/ some ease, sometimes it's a battle (which I didn't always win). I know some of those who do this as a regular operation set up to do it hydrolically, by using water in the case and a piston that is a close fit to the neck ID. The other issue is obtaining primers. Those have to be obtained from speciality suppliers (Old West Scrounger, possibly others) and are not cheap . . . then you have to add in the HazMat fees . . . . Depends on what caliber you are doing & what your time is worth if you save anything.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe I heard some people have reworked Berdan primer pockets by removing the post and drilling a third hole.
  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    --do I understand this correctly----after removing the berdan primer----i wont be able to replace it with my readily available boxer primers???
  • edharoldedharold Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boxer primers will not replace Berdan. I too went to a lot of work for nothing.
  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks!---since my regular suppliers do not vend berdan primers
    looks like this undertaking is not feasible for me----appreciate all you who gave your advice.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At the very least you'll have to remove the post and that's if when you're done,the pocket is the right diameter and depth to seat large rifle boxer primers.
  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    do they actually sell replacement berdan primers?
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7th - the key difference between Boxer and Berdan is the location of the anvil against which the priming compound is crushed to ignite it. In a Boxer, the anvil is integral w/ the primer - that little metal piece on the open side - while in the Berdan the anvil is part of the case. If you try to put a Boxer primer in an unaltered Berdan pocket, the best result you could expect is that it wouldn't seat . . . the worst is that it could go off.Yes, you can buy Berdan primers, but as noted above, the sources are limited and it is an expensive proposition (v. Boxers).[This message has been edited by Iconoclast (edited 01-15-2002).]
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    The cost of new boxer ammo may be too much, but perhaps the cost of unprimed, new brass wouldn't be... what caliber(s) are you looking at reloading for?
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ok----that explains why berdan primed cartridges are so dirt cheap then
    I'll just do like everyone else then and shoot them and forget all the mess
    Thanks!
  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jonk----thats the hard part
    my interests are in 7.62X25 tokarev
    9mm maakarov
    .303 british
    8mm mauser
    7.62X39mm
    7.62X54 rimmed russian---and who knows whats next? LOL? ?
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    Had to replace too many pins when I get one- have nothing to do with them!
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